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    Posted: 27/August/2007 at 12:21am
Folks, I'm gonna need some help. I just picked up a US Products HHP-310 machine used. Works like a dream as far as vac, pump and heat go, so that's a good start!! It came with a Drimaster upholstery wand, which I'm sure will come in handy (somewhere!).

Now, what the heck do I look for in a carpet wand for this type of machine? 300/75psi, 3stage vac (whatever that means) 140" lift, 212*.

I bought this because I have turned away so many small room carpet jobs in my cleaning business, that when this deal came along, it seemed stupid to pass it up. I'm not out to start a CC business, just want to be able to do a bedroom here and there when I'm asked.

I take care of a rental complex that would be a perfect test ground for me to learn with this machine, and I have a few carpets here at home that could stand a good cleaning. I have a 17" 2spd rotary that I hear can be used for bonnet cleaning as well (?)

I'm going to see if I can find some classes or instruction around here, but we're pretty small and out of the way. Not much without a 2-5hr drive.

So questions:
1. What type of wand?
2. what type chemicals to start with. (have a decent jan supply house here)
3.can the hoses be extended?
4. is there an online source that goes over basic HWE usage?
5. what the heck does 3 stage vacuum mean?

Geez, I hope these don't sound stupid, and forgive me for being so ignorant in this field, but I am brand new at this starting today and could use some guidance along the way.
 


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A 3-stage vacuum is a vacuum that has 3 fans connected to a single motor. Each stage increases the amount of water the vacuum can pull against resistance (waterflift). You've got a really good vacuum, if it's working properly.

You've got a pretty decent machine, but I wouldn't add any hose if I could help it.  Increasing the length of the hose will decrease the cfm (cubic feet per minute of airflow) of the extractor and will increase the time that it takes for the waterlift to strengthen within the hose and to build up between the times when you lift the wand off the ground.

I'll let others  recommend a wand.

Go to Kleenquip.com to learn about chemicals.  There are so many resources out there, but don't trust just anything your distributor  tells you, since they are usually pretty  ignorant and only want to sell you what they already have. There are a lot of open threads on this topic, and about bonnet cleaning as well.

Make sure all the filters on the machine are clean and all the hoses are cleared and not leaking air. Also check the machine for water and air leaks so that you're getting the maximum performance.

You're also going to need a sprayer of some sort to apply certain chemicals.
    
    
    
    

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Originally posted by FriendlyHammer FriendlyHammer wrote:


A 3-stage vacuum is a vacuum that has 3 fans connected to a single motor. Each stage increases the amount of water the vacuum can pull against resistance (waterflift). You've got a really good vacuum, if it's working properly.

You've got a pretty decent machine, but I wouldn't add any hose if I could help it.  Increasing the length of the hose will decrease the cfm (cubic feet per minute or airflow) of the extractor and will increase the time that it takes for the waterlift  strength within the hose to build up between  the times when you lift the wand off the ground.

I'll let others  recommend  a wand.

Go to Kleenquip.com to learn about chemicals.  There are so many resources out there, but don't trust just anything your distributor  tells you, since they are usually pretty  ignorant and only want to sell you what they already have. There are a lot of open threads on this topic.

Make sure all the filters on the machine are clean and all the hoses are cleared and not leaking air. Also check the machine for water and air leaks so that you're getting the maximum performance.

You're also going to need a sprayer of some sort to apply certain chemicals.


Excellent info. Thanks for getting that 3-stage thing thru my thick skull!

I've read thru the 5 pages on this porty board on the ones that seemed pertinent to my situation, and I'll spend the rest of my spare time this week going over all the boards here to glean what I can.

Sprayers huh? See, I thought the chem went in the tank! I've got several 2 gallon spray tanks setting around that I've used for tile & grout work.

Boy, do I have a lot to learn here!

Thanks to the creators and contributors of this forum! Off to read about chems now at that link!

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You'll need a sprayer for pre-spray, at least.  There are some pre-sprays that take the place of tank chemicals and some that work with tank chemicals. e-mail the owner of this site and he'll start you off on the right path. A trustworthy salesman is more likely to give you great tips than your competition.
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CALL GREEN GLIDES FOR A WAND
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Originally posted by splash_$$$_dash splash_$$$_dash wrote:

CALL GREEN GLIDES FOR A WAND
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I checked that link, but it appears to be just the glides...no wands. I need a starter wand (read: cheap!), and of course, I need it by Thursday! I'm running out of options. I can't believe I've got a $3K porty sitting here, and I'll end up renting a Rug Doctor!! Angry
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You can get wands from your local distributors. Don't use a Rug Wrecker just because you want to save a few bucks.
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Originally posted by FriendlyHammer FriendlyHammer wrote:

You can get wands from your local distributors. Don't use a Rug Wrecker just because you want to save a few bucks.


Well, you'd think so wouldn't you? I went to every supply house, vac house, pawn shop, rental house and even called up some CC'ers within 60 miles and had absolutely no luck. Sure, they can be ordered in, take a week or so.

Only option left is Spokane Washington about 2hrs north of here and $225+ for a wand. That will probably have to do.
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Do you have equipment rental companies around your area? All the ones in my area have wands.
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http://jondon.com has wands and if you use CCard or COD it will arrive the next day.. get a 12" wand 2 jets 1.5 diameter..
 
Chem does go in your solution tank... Its called emulsifier... Or you can go staight hot water... emuls. cleans better..
 
 
 
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Excellent idea. I was thinking about that yesterday. However, he'll need to make sure his couplers are compatable, or order some.


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