Oh Boy, Nu-B here, just bought a porty
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Topic: Oh Boy, Nu-B here, just bought a porty
Posted By: QuickClean
Subject: Oh Boy, Nu-B here, just bought a porty
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 12:21am
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Folks, I'm gonna need some help. I just picked up a US Products HHP-310 machine used. Works like a dream as far as vac, pump and heat go, so that's a good start!! It came with a Drimaster upholstery wand, which I'm sure will come in handy (somewhere!). Now, what the heck do I look for in a carpet wand for this type of machine? 300/75psi, 3stage vac (whatever that means) 140" lift, 212*. I bought this because I have turned away so many small room carpet jobs in my cleaning business, that when this deal came along, it seemed stupid to pass it up. I'm not out to start a CC business, just want to be able to do a bedroom here and there when I'm asked. I take care of a rental complex that would be a perfect test ground for me to learn with this machine, and I have a few carpets here at home that could stand a good cleaning. I have a 17" 2spd rotary that I hear can be used for bonnet cleaning as well (?) I'm going to see if I can find some classes or instruction around here, but we're pretty small and out of the way. Not much without a 2-5hr drive. So questions: 1. What type of wand? 2. what type chemicals to start with. (have a decent jan supply house here) 3.can the hoses be extended? 4. is there an online source that goes over basic HWE usage? 5. what the heck does 3 stage vacuum mean? Geez, I hope these don't sound stupid, and forgive me for being so ignorant in this field, but I am brand new at this starting today and could use some guidance along the way. ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 12:41am
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A 3-stage vacuum is a vacuum that has 3 fans connected to a single motor. Each stage increases the amount of water the vacuum can pull against resistance (waterflift). You've got a really good vacuum, if it's working properly.
You've got a pretty decent machine, but I wouldn't add any hose if I could help it. Increasing the length of the hose will decrease the cfm (cubic feet per minute of airflow) of the extractor and will increase the time that it takes for the waterlift to strengthen within the hose and to build up between the times when you lift the wand off the ground. I'll let others recommend a wand. Go to http://Kleenquip.com - Kleenquip.com to learn about chemicals. There are so many resources out there, but don't trust just anything your distributor tells you, since they are usually pretty ignorant and only want to sell you what they already have. There are a lot of open threads on this topic, and about bonnet cleaning as well. Make sure all the filters on the machine are clean and all the hoses are cleared and not leaking air. Also check the machine for water and air leaks so that you're getting the maximum performance. You're also going to need a sprayer of some sort to apply certain chemicals. |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 12:50am
Excellent info. Thanks for getting that 3-stage thing thru my thick skull! I've read thru the 5 pages on this porty board on the ones that seemed pertinent to my situation, and I'll spend the rest of my spare time this week going over all the boards here to glean what I can. Sprayers huh? See, I thought the chem went in the tank! I've got several 2 gallon spray tanks setting around that I've used for tile & grout work. Boy, do I have a lot to learn here! Thanks to the creators and contributors of this forum! Off to read about chems now at that link! Forrest ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
FriendlyHammer wrote:Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 1:26am
| You'll need a sprayer for pre-spray, at least. There are some pre-sprays that take the place of tank chemicals and some that work with tank chemicals. e-mail the owner of this site and he'll start you off on the right path. A trustworthy salesman is more likely to give you great tips than your competition. |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 2:57pm
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CALL GREEN GLIDES FOR A WAND
CALL TODAY ------------- 
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Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 4:13pm
I checked that link, but it appears to be just the glides...no wands. I need a starter wand (read: cheap!), and of course, I need it by Thursday! I'm running out of options. I can't believe I've got a $3K porty sitting here, and I'll end up renting a Rug Doctor!!  ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 7:10pm
| You can get wands from your local distributors. Don't use a Rug Wrecker just because you want to save a few bucks. |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 27/August/2007 at 9:32pm
Well, you'd think so wouldn't you? I went to every supply house, vac house, pawn shop, rental house and even called up some CC'ers within 60 miles and had absolutely no luck. Sure, they can be ordered in, take a week or so. Only option left is Spokane Washington about 2hrs north of here and $225+ for a wand. That will probably have to do. ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 12:36am
| Do you have equipment rental companies around your area? All the ones in my area have wands. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 1:52am
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http://jondon.com - http://jondon.com has wands and if you use CCard or COD it will arrive the next day.. get a 12" wand 2 jets 1.5 diameter..
Chem does go in your solution tank... Its called emulsifier... Or you can go staight hot water... emuls. cleans better..
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 2:14am
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Excellent idea. I was thinking about that yesterday. However, he'll need to make sure his couplers are compatable, or order some.
http://www.jondon.com/catalog/product_info.phpproducts_id=2326 |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 2:37am
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QC, send me a private message with your e-mail address and I'll send you a helpful pdf file about stain removal.
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 7:43am
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just remember the stain belongs to the customer the hole belongs to you??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 8:34am
| Don't give them your real name until/unless you're sure they won't press charges. |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 9:40am
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Ok, the wand search will continue today. JonDon was $300 for a 2 jet, I have to do better than that. The chems I'm looking at are: Multi-Clean Extraction Shampoo Multi-Clean Pre-Treat Multi-Clean Odor Out Anyone familiar with these? Good products? The apartment I'm supposed to do this week, apparently has cat urine odor. I haven't been over there yet. ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 12:27pm
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None of those listed chems are going to have any affect on cat urine? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 1:14pm
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Thanks Doug. I'll talk to my supplier in the morning and get their recommendation then.
------------- Tool Junky at heart |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 5:37pm
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Time to change suppliers ??
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 6:44pm
| It's never too late to back out of the business either. Think about all the investment you'll make and the return you'll get. An adequate supply of chemicals to cover a variety of situations will cost hundreds of dollars. It will take a number of jobs to get that money back. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 8:50pm
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amen brother!!! ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 9:45pm
Well, I'm not the kind to give up without even trying first, so we'll see how it goes. Did pick up a Hydramaster HydraHoe today, so at least I can get tomorrows job done. I have 7, 2 & 3 bedroom apartments owned by a friend to test things out on and see how I like it. On top of that, I'm getting paid well for them so it's a pretty good test bed for me. Supposed to be a pretty good enzyme cleaner down at my JS store for the cat pee spot. So we'll see how well that works with a blacklight test. Thanks again for the support folks!  ------------- Tool Junky at heart |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 10:09pm
You might be surprised when you do the blacklight test  ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 29/August/2007 at 1:49am
| Yeah, that blacklight test can be a shocker. |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 29/August/2007 at 5:28am
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Might not be friends for long ?? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 29/August/2007 at 6:54am
| Could get glowing results. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/August/2007 at 12:45pm
| cheap wands on ebay dude.. 7 jobs! Thats a good start.. |
Posted By: QuickClean
Date Posted: 29/August/2007 at 6:33pm
Thanks! The gentleman I bought the extractor from, did some calling around to old CC buddies and came up with that Hydramaster HydraHoe for me for just $80, so the wand issue has been solved...at least til I decide to upgrade (See sig!). Overall, I'm only $680 into a US Products HHP-310, HydraMaster DriMaster upholstery tool, and HydraMaster HydraHoe wand. Not too shabby! Only reason we got into this is to help out that friend with the apts, and figured what the heck, be kind of nice to take care of our own carpets, and not have to turn away the odd carpet request that comes along when we do whole house cleanings. Didn't even realize we already had some equipment that would be useful as well: 175/300 rpm Minuteman 17" Rotary and 2 2500cfm airmovers. I must say, that HHP-310 did wonders on the carpeting, and I was completely grossed out at what I saw in the recovery tank. YUCK! Need to find or order some of that Dry Slurry as recommended by prior owner. He's 2 hours away, but I can order from up there and have it shipped down. Today I used the MultiClean extractor shampoo, pretreat and an enzyme product to get rid of a little cat pee spot. This week, I need to call around and find some CC classes somewhere nearby. I don't like going blindly into an area where I can screw things up! I read everything I can find on the web, and this site here has a wealth of info, and some darn helpful people I'm finding out. Thanks all! ------------- Tool Junky at heart |