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doug
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Nightrider: Question Would that be white or brown vinegar? Just inquiring if one is superior to the other? You keep up with all these simple solutions everyone is going to be buying all their supplies at the grocery store. White vinegar smells better, but a rinising agent may be just a tiny bit more acceptable odour wise. You do not want to leave your customers I stand corrected your clients house smelling like a English style fish and chip joint. Or not.
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nightrider
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ALL THIS TALK ABOUT PISS, IS PISSING ME OFF...YOU ARE ALL LOOKING FOR SOME WONDER CHEMICAL TO GET URINE SMELL OUT FOR GOOD AND IT IS SITTING RIGHT IN YOUR FRIDGE OR KITCHEN CUBBARD. LADIES AND GENTS IT'S CALLED V I N E G A R YOU CAN DILUTE IT OR USE PURE, JUST SPRAY ON AND LET DRY ON ITS OWN, FOR FRESH URINE BLOT THE URINE FIRST THEN SPRAY. TRUST ME .........IT WORKS. NIGHTRIDER |
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doug
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I would not but a truckmount just for urine. But there are many other uses for a tm other than urine. It would be a good addition to anyones arsenal if you can affford it. Once you understad the urine situation a portable will be fine because in most instances you will have to do more than just extract. Note the tm will not suck the urine out of the pad if that was the case tm owners would be busier recarpeting than cleaning. You really need to get all the info you can on urine and textiles before you can make a decisionbecaues everyone has an ancient chinesse secret on removing urine. But you have to remove the physical remove the source. If you are talking luck than most of the receipes on this post are luckey if they work. Do want to work on luck or knowledge? Because if they are lucky the weather will change and the humidity will go down and the odour will decrease. Tell you people they need climate control keep the humidity low and the odour will also stay low.
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soonerjoe
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We have quite a few jobs where people just don't clean up after a dog or cat that is not pottie trained...then they want us to come in clean the carpet to like new, w/o any smell....I really am shocked at the conditions some people will live in. I am considering buying a truck mount, but am concerned about training and keeping employees to run it, plus, I don't think the carpets look nearly as good with a TM versus a pad cleaning. I do think that I would have better luck with urine though. How many of you have used both systems, what is your preferences? |
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Stanley
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Do you personally think 2 or 3 coats will do it.......and if your sealing in the bioenzymes they will take a very long time to dry...very long time..actually adding the damage to the already softened wood... Call the contractor |
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LilNiteRidrhood
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No doubt You may a few coats of shellac in very extreme circumstances. Usually if you use a bioenzyme it will continue to penetrate whatever it is exposed to as long as it is kept wet. Then the Kilz or Odor Barrier, sometimes 2-3 coats . Edited by LilNiteRidrhood |
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Stanley
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So what about wood root???whats the fix in that case....you pull up the carpet and the flooring is black...and joist underneath is black..... I think it's better to tear the whole thing out...call in a contractor and let him do his thing....wood is absorbent and I truly feel you can't seal it completely |
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doug
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I had a hardwood floor that you could push a butter knife threw. In the basement 2 floor joists had damage affecting 3 to 5" of the joist. The previous owners installed new carpet to sell the house. Then in the spring it started to smell. The affected area of the floor was removed and the joists were sealed and since due to the expense the carpet was reinstalled they were no worried about hte hardwood. After we have treated the wood floor and let it dry we use KILTZ or a similar sealer. |
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Stanley
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Sealing the floor...I've used clear silicone....but what happens..when the floor has extreme damage
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LilNiteRidrhood
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You have to mimmick the stain itself. Remember that the urine goes from an acid liquid and dries to an alkaline salt. You must break up the salts with an acid rinse, then retrace the urine deposit with a cleaning solution. The two typical procedures use either a bioenzyme or an oxidizer poured onto the area and then waterclawed back out. Like Stanley and Andy said its very possible its actually into the subfloor and pad. If the animal has gone on the same spot numerous times I would include replacing the pad and sealing the floor with a shellac. |
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Steaminpile
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I guess I need to be less vague whether you bonnet,pad,hwe,,,,,W.H.Y. with urine I wouldn't guarantee anything,without pulling the pad. I was just mentioning a couple things a person might try if the customer doesn't wish to go to that expense. but do explain to the custy that without pulling pad etc. that you are more than likely just going to have a temporary solution or just covering up the problem. |
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I do needle shots...but what happens when it soaks into the wood????
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doug
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I think you really have to have understanding of the chemical composition of urine before thinking a spray and suck is all that is needed. Lets discuss the waterclaw effective on waterextraction to an extenct but for urine I wouldn't bet my paycheck. Lets not forgot about the scrim on the underpad that is the skin applied to allow the installer to install the carpet. If you can't blow threw it you cannot dry it. so you add water alot of chemical and use the water claw first did you flush the urine all out or drive it all over with 10 gallons of water you added? Did you add enough chemicla to get to every where you just drove the new urine you just made with all the water? There is no simple answer to everything and I hope you don't buy a waterclaw just for urine, save the money and go to an odour school. This is just my opinion
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Steaminpile
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with a water claw and chems you might be able to. but the smell is pretty tough to kill overall without ditching the pad. I've had some success with injections and chemspec's Kill Odor. |
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