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    Posted: 09/April/2006 at 9:41am

Had this inspection last week in Mississauga. Story goes like this .

Carpet installed in Nov 2002. First cleaning in June 2005 by OP machine and the carpet looked like "felt" after it was cleaned. She complained and had the retailer return and look at it.  Retailer said it needed to be cleaned. So they called the carpet cleaner back (the guy with the OP machine) and he returned and cleaned it again . The carpet looked worse.The carpet is made from nylon staple fiber and has no texture retention warranty.

The carpet cleaner is of course furious with me.

Moral of the story? If you are going to OP cut pile you had better be careful.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2006 at 3:03pm
I'm missing something in the story. Why is the carpet cleaner mad at you?
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Lee,

Shows you stats of our industry. If I or my company make a mistake we own up to it and pay. this usually assures us we will not make the same mistake again. If you feel you tin the professional category stand up and be a pro.

Face the music and turn a negative into a positive and it will be much better for you in the long term. If you feel your not in the professional category then keep an airline ticket handy for a quick exit.

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Michael,

Lee is a professional carpet inspector and a very honorable and honest one. When he inspects he has to point the finger at whoever the finger should be pointed at or he will lose credibility.

I personally years ago wanted to be an inspector until I gave it some thought.

When inspecting you will always piss someone off and if that person was my chemical customer, well you know what I mean. Seems we live in a world where we are never to blame.

It's always the other guy.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2006 at 3:56pm
Ted I dissagree. It is not the inspectors job to point the finger at anyone. It is the inspectors job to determine the problem. If the problem is a direct result of someone or something than so be it. But than again that's just me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PadMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2006 at 4:04pm

Exactly Doug, (this is not pointing at Lee at all) however many inspectors are mill whores, have a LOT of stories to tell concerning this.

 

Question is, did the cleaner do something wrong?

Was the carpet built to standard?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Michael Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2006 at 4:09pm
Okay, I see. I've never personally dealt with someone who billed himself as a carpet inspector. But I did bring in a dye expert to look at a job I did that somehow resulted in bleach spots. He determined that something had gone onto the carpet previously, weakening the dye (in other words, not our fault). The customer was irked by this--finger pointing more in his direction, I guess. We just settled it. He still thought it must have been something we did.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LilNiteRidrhood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/April/2006 at 7:42pm

I would have to say Padman that it is very unlikely that you would get the same results with most carpets.

As you well know all our trucks carry an OP and we just bought a giant box of pads from you.

I wish I could comment more, however it would be out of line.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cleanex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/April/2006 at 8:04am

Lee, none of my business, but why post this topic if you can't comment more?  Is the problem the cleaner or was it carpet related?

I gave up inspections as the mills paid me to get them off the hock, not solve the real problem.

 

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MY  question is HOW much damage could an OP do??????

 

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Easy Don, as a guy who uses OP quite often I am now quite concerned and rethinking our systems.

I think we will now only use OP on loop pile.

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O.K. now I get it.  This is a cleaner problem and not carpet related. Hope the cleaner has insurance.  So the question is, is it OP method problem or is it a inexperienced operator?

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I think its more a combination of OP cleaning a product that isn't made to stand up to it.

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what the hell was the guy using SOS PADs????

it has to be a carpet defect

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