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    Posted: 09/May/2005 at 4:36pm

of cleaning and return on investement for equipment being purchased.

For example, if you knew of four machines that all do the same thing and:

Machine one cost $900.00 and cleaned at 400 Square feet per hour

Machine two cost $2000.00 and cleaned at 600-700 Square feet per hour plus cleans berber better

Machine three cost $2200.00 and cleaned at 800-900 Square feet per hour plus cleaned berber and grout and tile better

Machine four cost $2400.00 and cleaned at 1000-1500 Square feet per hour, plus cleaned berber, grout and tile better again MUCH faster.

 

Which one of these would be the most attractive BUSINESS purchase?

 

Serious replies please!

 

 

 

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I would go the more expensive machine that does more carpet per hour in your above post, however, if you are talking truckmounted equipment I would not follow that example, I would be looking for the most reliable unit, and one that had a service provider within easy driving distance. In truck units the most expensive could easily be the most troublesome when it comes to breakdowns.
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Thank you Don, on my bbs I am getting similar responses... ie:

RE: How many here consider SPEED
Posted by
Chris Connor on May 09, 2005 - 04:39 PM - 68.210.225.83

#4
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RE: How many here consider SPEED
Posted by
Don Schaefer on May 09, 2005 - 04:46 PM - 69.114.246.159

#4

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RE: How many here consider SPEED
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bobvawter on May 09, 2005 - 04:47 PM - 205.188.116.131

I would buy number 5.. Bob Vawter's Steam Genie PTO.........The one on the Jon Don site!!



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RE: How many here consider SPEED
Posted by
danny strickland on May 09, 2005 - 04:53 PM - 69.68.150.54

#6 go into business management and tell the cleaner which one to buy!!!


RE: How many here consider SPEED
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ron markham on May 09, 2005 - 04:57 PM - 207.65.131.2

#4


RE: How many here consider SPEED
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Brian Barrett on May 09, 2005 - 05:00 PM - 198.93.116.92

#4 once business justified a upgrade from what I have now.


RE: How many here consider SPEED
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Kevin Summar on May 09, 2005 - 05:13 PM - 207.65.21.122

#4,


RE: How many here consider SPEED
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The Cleaning Artist on May 09, 2005 - 05:24 PM - 64.12.116.70

From a real life experience the price of machine has little to do with it's cleaning rate. I look for quality of construction, warranty and in my eyes is it worth what it costs. The price of these machines are too high for what the user gets.


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RE: How many here consider SPEED
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Steve Retalic on May 09, 2005 - 05:32 PM - 65.162.193.138

#4

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maybe it's a trick... I'll say #1
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I would buy Machine #4 all day long.  Here is an example of why:

If I book a 5000 square foot job (commercial semi open plan office), the market will bear only 7 - 10 cents per square foot.  This means I can only bill $500 maximum for this work to be competitive:

Here is a breakdown to clean 5000 square feet with the machines listed.

Machine #1 (400 sq ft/hr) - 12.5 hrs - billable rate = $40 / hour

Machine #2 (600 sq ft/hr) - 8.3 hrs - billable rate = $60 / hour

Machine #3 (800 sq ft/hr) - 6.25 hrs - billable rate = $80 / hour

Machine #4 (1000 sq ft/hr) - 5.0 hrs - billable rate = $100 / hour

So, with Machine #4, I can make a decent buck for my time.

 

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Well it seems we have a gal who can do math too!

 

Wow this could get interesting

 

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Her other job is a mathemetician
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If one train leaves Boston heading West travelling 90 mph and another train leaves Boston travelling North at 75 mph who makes the most money?

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Yes, math is fine but that does not include measuring.  Last week I was using one of those roley measurer things and wrote down that a room was 734 feet long.  HMMMMMM since it was only 20 feet wide I think something was amis.

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Sounds like a long hallway to me. 14680 sq ft of hallway
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I'd buy the cheap machine and get a faster and stronger worker and burn him out.........

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I can see why you answered the way you did, and know one knows better than you that the 500Psi Ninja cleans 20% faster then the 100Psi Ninja.

However the 100Psi Ninja out sells every thing else, especially to the Newbies.  Only the long term experienced cleaner buys high pressure at high prices.

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