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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/April/2005 at 5:24pm

Ya. That's it.

The fact is, I'm like everyone else in the world. I wanna know "What's in it for me?" Where's the value for my investment?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/April/2005 at 2:19pm
it sounds to me you just don't want to pay for it cmaster. nobody rides for free cmaster.
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:44am
OK, you're certified...I mean certifiable
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dontlikedennis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:28am
to certify each other
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Why?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dontlikedennis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:11am

Lets start a new organization!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:59pm

Steamer,

Most of my business is based on repeats and referrals. When I was certified, I never received anymore jobs because of my certs. Nobody asked if I was certified cause nobody cares.

What people want is value for their money. Someone who they can trust to do the job well and not take advantage of them.

I was a strong IICRC supporter until I realized what really goes on within the org. When they fix the problems and start looking out for the registrants, I will consider renewing my certs.

Of course, this is just my opinion

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:40pm

cmaster I hear you...

but without IICRC what makes you any different from any other cleaner...\

I can pipe fit... but I can't get a pipe fitters job..

I can wire electrical components but I'm not an electrician

Just be cause you can do doesn't mean that you are ..

but it's really up to you

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:35pm

The IICRC has standards.

You take a standard course, write a standard exam pay them a standard fee, they give you standard certification.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:28pm

Whats wrong with the IICRC... we need some standards..

Just because you go to Medical School doesn't mean your a good doctor...you could still be a butcher..lol

same goes for IICRC

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 10:56pm
Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

Boy oh boy you like to whine and complain now don't you cmaster?

If you don't want to be certified, don't.

What exactly does HST have to do with any of this anyways?

The people who have this certification tend to be the elite of the elite.

Its also the class that so many people desperately need.

Seems everyone comes out of the class saying "wow, I  didn't realize I was breaking so many laws."

I'd also like to ask you who is making this so called cash grab?

I know many instructors, not many of them are making a bundle of money, for most its a passion.

I am not whining or complaining. I am stating my opinion. That's what these boards are for.

Sorry, my mistake. It's FCT.

I didn't say it was a cash grab by instructors, did I? Nor did I say that classroom training was a bad thing.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LilNiteRidrhood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 10:13pm

Boy oh boy you like to whine and complain now don't you cmaster?

If you don't want to be certified, don't.

What exactly does HST have to do with any of this anyways?

The people who have this certification tend to be the elite of the elite.

Its also the class that so many people desperately need.

Seems everyone comes out of the class saying "wow, I  didn't realize I was breaking so many laws."

I'd also like to ask you who is making this so called cash grab?

I know many instructors, not many of them are making a bundle of money, for most its a passion.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cmaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 6:31pm

IMO and many others as well, the IICRC has been going in the wrong direction for a long time. It is broken and needs to be fixed. Unfortunately, they don't see it.

The reason you hear more horror stories about uncertified techs than certified is because there are many more uncertified than certified.

Certification is not icing. It's a cash grab for which you get a piece of paper in return. It puts you in the same league as some very good cleaners, as well as some very poor ones. There is no policing. Anyone can become certified. Sad but true IMO.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/April/2005 at 5:46pm
cmaster the IICRC is not perfect. but it's a good start in the right direction. imo  i know not all certified techs provide the service to IICRC standards and thats a shame. but i hear more horror stories about uncertified techs than certified. your 26 years in the bizz is great but that certification is the iceing on the cake. jmo
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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