different post on IICRC
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Topic: different post on IICRC
Posted By: dontlikedennis
Subject: different post on IICRC
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 12:48am
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A month ago there was a bid opportunity to do floor work at ambulance stations....the bid specified that the techs has to be IICRC certified. NO BS but WTF? I'm talking strip / wax / burnish. Imagine you're good enough to do the huge Loblaws or Future Shop but not qualified to do a little ambulance "house"! I believe the tender was for the Region Of Peel....man I say F them and their IICRC! |
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 12:54am
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Make sure whoever gets the job has a FCT on staff. Otherwise report them to IICRC. I'm sure that will do a lot of good. I have a better idea. Tell them you are FCT certified so you get the job instead of the other BS'ers. Who's gonna report you? The other BS'ers. |
Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 6:01am
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thats a good idea cmaster lie just to get the job. and when he shows up to do the job and they ask to see his certification than what, lie aging, "oh must have left it in my other pants" they want certified techs for a reason A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE. thats what the IICRC represents. ------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 9:47am
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Maybe they think that's what they represent. Instead of losing my cool, I will just say that I have to disagree with you. |
Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 4:51pm
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why would you lose your cool cmaster? did you think your responce was going to go on challenged? ------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 5:23pm
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You can challenge my responses if you like. However, we all know how much BS goes on in this business by unprofessional, unethical so called cleaners, that are IICRC certified. If you don't know, you have been leading a sheltered life. If you think they will receive a higher level of service just because they choose an IICRC certified cleaner, think again. I am not FCT certified and never have been. I will put my 26 years experience in floor maintenance against any certified FCT, anytime. The BSing to get the job was just an example of what other companies will do to get a job. You know as well as everyone that the IICRC expects their registrants to police for them. Hence the first line in my post. I could go on about this, but the point is moot. Bottom line is, you send them your dues and I don't. You defend them, I won't. Let's just agree to disagree. |
Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 5:46pm
cmaster the IICRC is not perfect. but it's a good start in the right direction. imo i know not all certified techs provide the service to IICRC standards and thats a shame. but i hear more horror stories about uncertified techs than certified. your 26 years in the bizz is great but that certification is the iceing on the cake. jmo ------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 6:31pm
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IMO and many others as well, the IICRC has been going in the wrong direction for a long time. It is broken and needs to be fixed. Unfortunately, they don't see it. The reason you hear more horror stories about uncertified techs than certified is because there are many more uncertified than certified. Certification is not icing. It's a cash grab for which you get a piece of paper in return. It puts you in the same league as some very good cleaners, as well as some very poor ones. There is no policing. Anyone can become certified. Sad but true IMO.
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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 10:13pm
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Boy oh boy you like to whine and complain now don't you cmaster? If you don't want to be certified, don't. What exactly does HST have to do with any of this anyways? The people who have this certification tend to be the elite of the elite. Its also the class that so many people desperately need. Seems everyone comes out of the class saying "wow, I didn't realize I was breaking so many laws." I'd also like to ask you who is making this so called cash grab? I know many instructors, not many of them are making a bundle of money, for most its a passion. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 10:56pm
I am not whining or complaining. I am stating my opinion. That's what these boards are for. Sorry, my mistake. It's FCT. I didn't say it was a cash grab by instructors, did I? Nor did I say that classroom training was a bad thing. |
LilNiteRidrhood wrote:Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:28pm
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Whats wrong with the IICRC... we need some standards.. Just because you go to Medical School doesn't mean your a good doctor...you could still be a butcher..lol same goes for IICRC ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:35pm
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The IICRC has standards. You take a standard course, write a standard exam pay them a standard fee, they give you standard certification. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:40pm
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cmaster I hear you... but without IICRC what makes you any different from any other cleaner...\ I can pipe fit... but I can't get a pipe fitters job.. I can wire electrical components but I'm not an electrician Just be cause you can do doesn't mean that you are .. but it's really up to you ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/April/2005 at 11:59pm
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Steamer, Most of my business is based on repeats and referrals. When I was certified, I never received anymore jobs because of my certs. Nobody asked if I was certified cause nobody cares. What people want is value for their money. Someone who they can trust to do the job well and not take advantage of them. I was a strong IICRC supporter until I realized what really goes on within the org. When they fix the problems and start looking out for the registrants, I will consider renewing my certs. Of course, this is just my opinion |
Posted By: dontlikedennis
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:11am
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Lets start a new organization!!! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:17am
| Why? |
Posted By: dontlikedennis
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:28am
to certify each other 
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 12:44am
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OK, you're certified...I mean certifiable
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Posted By: greg
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 2:19pm
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it sounds to me you just don't want to pay for it cmaster. nobody rides for free cmaster. ------------- nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 26/April/2005 at 5:24pm
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Ya. That's it. The fact is, I'm like everyone else in the world. I wanna know "What's in it for me?" Where's the value for my investment? |
Posted By: JCOOPER
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 7:02pm
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i've read some info here and its been very helpful. okay so i started my carpet cleaning business.i have a portable extractor.works great. i'm not in the UK.i live in sunny arizona,usa. havn't seen any sites like this here.so any advice should help. iv been in business for myself for about five months.not going bad, but needs to be better. im in the newspaper in the service directory(classifieds) every sunday.im also on the newspapers internet site. this is costing about 150$$ a month(THIS ALL THE MONEY I CAN SPEND) usa.ive got maybe7 calls so far.and they where from the internet.not so good! ive called some home cleaning companys to see if they have clients for me.no response. what should i do?flyers? i live by alot of apartments.stick to them?give them flyers. i can get 1000 flyers colored paper black ink for 100$$usa. should i do this? what should my flyer say? most of the other carpet cleaners here are scumbags. they direct mail flyers saying they will do a room of carpet for 5.00$$usa.then charge hundreds when they get there. i charge one price.everything included.i want to be honest.AND MAKE GOOD MONEY! PLEASE ANY ADVICE...IM GOING BROKE. SORRY ABOUT SPELLING. ------------- JCOOPER |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 7:54pm
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Hey JCOOPER, How many times are you going to post this? |
Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 10:52pm
Until he gets the answer he is looking for cmaster. We could be guessing all night.  ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 11:22pm
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Maybe he should tell us what answer he is looking for. Then we can give it to him.
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 11:38pm
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JCOOPER is a little like Kenny with his glides............... Nightrider |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 11:53pm
Not another salesman
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 27/April/2005 at 11:56pm
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We are all salesmen Cmaster. If you were not, you would be out of business real fast. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 12:01am
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Speak of the devil............how are you ken... Nightrider |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 12:01am
| Some of us are more subtle than others though. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 1:00am
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Yes, the more subtle ones are the one's making less sales. I did over 500 glide sales on Monday alone. I didn't do that by being subtle.You call me a salesman if you want, cause that is what I am, and an effective one at that. I may like to have my fun here, but when it comes to making money from sales, I am deadly serious. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 1:23am
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Are you selling on Ebay again? Or did you ink a deal with a wand manufacturer?
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 1:33am
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Cmaster, I have never, ever sold any products on ebay. I have bought some there a few times, just for the publicity I got from doing that. There was nothing wrong with that, and when ebay examined the facts, they agreed, just as I said all along would happen. I may engage in negative advertising from time to time, but only cause it works and gets me more sales. You should see the e-mails I get thanking me for the great entertainment I provide.
As for your other question, no wand manufacturers where in that total at all. It was all distributors. Most were sales of the new SuperLip Glide, the USA's best seller. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 1:36am
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I will agree with that. You are very entertaining |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/April/2005 at 1:54am
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I would rather be entertaining than boring. If you are boring, nobody wants to hear what you have to say. Can I be Kenny the good and be entertaining? Possible I guess, but much harder to pull off. Ever notice that the bad guy in most movies is the more interesting character? I have. I work at keeping things interesting with my Superglide Ken identity. Many that meet me in person comment that I am not much like my internet persona. I say of course not, most of what I do here is done in fun for entertainment purposes. If I did in real life what most that read the boards think I do, I would not have a business, never mind be doing the record sales I am doing now. If my life in cyber-space ever causes me to lose income instead of gain it, you will see me stop it mighty quick. Having fun and having an infamous internet persona has served me well so far in making sales to this industry, but I never carry it so far that it effects my income in anything but a positive way. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |