OP Cleaning

As deep as HWE, that is for sure, on many carpets deeper.

We have been brainwashed into believing because a lot of water is used that the carpet is rinsed or CLEANED way down deep. Well what is deep cleaning? Deep cleaning is cleaning deep enough the customer never see what dirt is left.

Some with think this bogus, but time after time we have tested this, no matter how well you clean, I can come back and get more, then you more than me more and so forth.

We were in Atlanta at a TM manufacturers place, he had been cleaning on an 8' x 4' piece of carpet for a couple of hours, demoing the machine. We went over this OVER CLEANED carpet with a pad and it was quite dirty, the TM manufacturer was amazed, I told him, now you do some more, he got more, then me and I got more soil. People what we clean is gravity fed, anyone thinking THEY are truly getting all the soil out is sadly mistaken no matter HOW much they WISH they got it all out, to think so is simply lying to yourself.

So again, how deep is deep?

I will go toe to toe with a TM anyday, period.

Mister Steamer, yes there is a stair tool, it is a smaller oscillating machine, and will impress you with the way it cleans up the bulledge of the stair!

NightRider, side by sides are great, but the fun is when you then switch sides and clean each others work, HWE guys are sick when they see how much was left in the carpet THEY THOUGHT was clean. Question is: Where did the dirt come from? The Top or the Bottom?????

One of the main reasons many get this system is because you can eliminate wickbacks with it... there again, do you think they are eliminated beucase you don't get the carpet wet or because you get the elements causing the wickbacks out?

Most HWE guys know the HAVE to say that, wicking is not stopped by VLM cleaning because it is low moisture, it stops it because you can remove what is causing it.

The pictures below are examples of carpets that had been HWE'd but wicked back, we STOPPED it permanently.

Padman was there underpading under that carpet?????I could do the same job with a little brown out and my bonnet machine....

you know if that's underpaded thats all still there...right???

Padman maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.  I have seen many pad jobs that totally amazed me, but I still had the doubt in my mind as were did the dirt go.  I now understand a little better as I read.

You use some times up to 100 pads on a job.  When we sell a pad machine in Toronto most customers purchase one pad. Not exactly true, Lee bought many. Its a no brainier why did I not figure it out.  If you use enough Toilet Paper you get the job done properly and comfortably.

Ted, you are now totally confusing me , you sold me a big freakin truckmount with all the bells and whistles, when i could have just bought toilet paper to clean carpets.........what a rip off.

send me 200 cases of toilet paper

           NIGHTRIDER

I'm almost sold on OP not....lol you could use a million pads.....I only have 10...so that my problem...ok now I'm sold

just keep wipin...and wipin and wipin....hhhmmmm interesting...same idea with bonnet pads??????sounds like alot of work...Ted I need more pads...

Padman how much rpm do I need to run....I have a couple of floor machines here..I'll get one rewound

SOLD

I agree with OPERATOR error, which of course is the cause for MOST prpblems.

Your rotary runs either 175 or if it is a high speed 300 rpm, the OP machine runs at 1725 rpm, but that is OPM orbits per minute, the acutal pad turns slowly.