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    Posted: 13/July/2004 at 9:15pm
of Ontario presents one of our industry's leading teachers, Dr. Eric Brown in Mississauga, Ontario (the suburbs of Toronto)on Aug 20-22 for a Woolsafe technician and/or inspector class.
Dr. Brown is a leading authority on cleaning and inspection and will also be offering certification through his Cleaning Research International.
For more info please contact the FIO at 905-822-2280
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Lee:  Maybe I should try to return to your city of????  Tell me again why someone would want to visit Toronto.  Hope to attend anyway since it is Mississauga. I should know soon if that will be possible.Guitar
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Are all you GTA cleaners attending this seminar?  Or is everyone going to sit by the phone incase they miss that $30.00 carpet cleaning job?  This could pay for it self in no time.  Unless you already know all there is to know.  Unfortunately I am not that fortunate.Guitar
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote doug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20/August/2004 at 9:14pm
I didn't see to many of the GTA'S finest there.  I guess they should find a place to hold these seminars where the cleaners don't already know everything about Jack S**t.  I guess that is why the cleaning prices are so high in the GTA everyone knows all there is to know.Guitar
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Doug,

Woolsafe here won't register anyone with less then 5 years in the industry.  After speaking to a couple of chaps who had taken the course, they were amazed at 1) what they had learned and 2) the vast amount of talent taking the course.  No beginners asking the same questions, see?  They both said that they learned as much during the breaks and over a couple of beers afterward as they learned in the seminar.

Did you enjoy it?  Learn?  Do you run into much wool there?

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Allen:  I feel it was well worth the drive.  I donot live close to the real world of the GTA.  It filled alot of voids in areas I thought I already had a good handle on.  Strait answers no beating around the bush.Guitar
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MR. STEAMER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/August/2004 at 10:27am

how much did it cost you douggie???  and was the information something you could share free here on the net for all of us who couldn't afford to go ??

no wonder the Big named companies are beating you all to the punch 15 to 1... because instead of getting your asses up... doing the marketing... do the advertising..... your at classes socializing

how was the Tea... was it good was it refreshing???

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Mr. Steamer the big companies work on the same premis as you." Bulls**t Baffles Brains"Guitar
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so I take it the tea was good.....lololololololol

douggie my son.... what ever floats your boat....

let me help you out a little my boy..... put your bronze with a big names brass... you've just become un-stoppable

good cleaners don't work any where long...because they know how good they are and eventually they want to become the boss where they can make all the money

good companies can't keep good cleaners... because good help is very expensive

good cleaners have no money to promote name

good companies have lots money to promote but no good cleaners

my point is SPEND THE MONEY and Shut THE BUCK UP

MR.  STEAMER is comming watch for a carpet near you



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Mr. Steamer:  It appears that everytime someone attends an educational function in an attempt to broden their horizons there is a problem.  I don't claim like you to be master of all.  Unfortunately when something of interest comes along where their is a chance of learning something new I try to attend.  It all costs money, what you lose  being away from your business and the costs to attend.  If I were a big company I would tell the subs to attend at their own expense so I could reap the benifits, but I am a small company And to try and survive we have to try to make some kind of an attempt to stay on top of things as they evolve.Guitar
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At the IICRC course, there were several of the 'big boys' and lots of little guys.  A 'dry clean' franchise was represented with 4 attendees:  3 were franchise owners who had to pay their own way, and the NEW state marketing manager, who had his course paid for.  He was going to be thier franchise-wide trainer.  He had a staggering 3WEEKS in the industry.  HAHHAHAHHAHA.

funny thing is, the smaller guys all paid for thier employees' training, and didn't pretend that they could bring this level of education 'in-house'

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Allen:  What some don't realize is in this business big companies don't help small companies they use and dispose of them.Guitar
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lack of money to compete is the small mans problem... I just sent out over 4000 dollars in advertising... it really should be 20,000

I should have half a page in the yellow pages......I don't

I should have advertising on the side of my van.... I don't

I should have someone telemarketing my services....I don't

Why because the money isn't there to compete....  Sears spends thousands a month... just the yellow page bill in the area I work cost 2 grand a month..... flyers are flyin...telemarketers are Tellin....

us small guys have to start to think big... BIG BIG I tell you...

go cheap get cheap customers...

 

I know business marketing  and I know service ...if you have both money will never be your problem...

it doesn't take a fleet of 50 trucks to make money... it takes one guy... the right advertising...and a great smile even if your missing teeth

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Steamer,

I'm not quite understanding you...  you are not provided these items like signing, telemarketing, and advertising?  Or are you writing that from the point of view of a one-man operation? Get cheap customers?  Not for me, baby... and I hope not for you. 

Do you have to send out your own advertising?  And you work for a name brand company? If you do, then I'm a bit concerned over the contract you're on.  I'm not being sarcastic.

Dunno what half page ads cost for you.  Get away from the main cities to the nearest rural area.  Cheaper ads, less competition, more money. A telemarketer around here will work a week for about $800 through an agency.  That's telemarketing, and putting info to a simple database for later reference.  For $800 and phone costs, they don't even need an office of yours to work from.  You get an Excel spreadsheet with names called, addresses, phone numbers, last time carpets were cleaned, and next contact date.  It's brilliant, and gives you information to reuse.

Bump up the response... send one colour A4 mailers with a special offer to an area, THEN have the telemarketer call, "We've recently sent you some information about our service, along with a coupon for one free room clean with every 3 rooms paid for? Do you remember getting that?  We'd like to give you another reason to try our service now: we'll also give (insert special offer here: $10 to your favorate charity, half off carpet protection, a $20 voucher for one of your friends...) if you book your carpets to be cleaned. The best thing about this is... you can book up to 6 months in advance...     <get the point?>

Van signage for me was $600.  That's an expense that'll last 6 or 8 years, so the cost is negligeable in the long run.

Don't think big... think niche.  Guerrilla Marketing.  Check out Jay Conrad Levinson in your search engine of choice.

Or don't.  I've been in it for 6 months and I'm not rolling in it yet.  I didn't expect to be at this stage though.  BUT...winter's finishing.  We've had about 4 days of good weather, and I've already got a full week.  I think we'll be ok. 




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