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Michael ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() ![]() Joined: 18/June/2005 Status: Offline Points: 557 |
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I've been doing some research on EPA endorsed cleaners, and I'm curious
if others are aware of these I've listed below, have experience with
them, or have others they wish to add to the list. I'm looking at this
because I'm seriously thinking of hitting the "Green" niche in my area.
I took a look at an EPA program called Design for the Environment (DfE), and I found three manufacturers of cleaning agents working directly with this program. Here's the link to the EPA's DfE site re: Cleaners: http://www.epa.gov/oppt/dfe/projects/formulat/formpart.htm There's Pioneer Eclipse with their EnviroStar line. I can't remember if I first came across a link to their site here, but I know I was already familiar. Whoever provided me with that link, thanks very much. I'm very interested in that line. Then there's the Clean Control Corporation, whose products are available through Sam's Club. And last, there's Gemtek Products, which looks interesting, but their pdf links are dead. Anyway, I was hoping to get some input on any of this stuff, primarily in terms of their respective effectiveness. The Chemspec DFC isn't on there, but I'll add it to the list. It may not be EPA approved, but it's friggin' FDA aprroved! Additionally, I'm curious what others think about my plan to tap the Green market. My area seems to have very, very few carpet cleaning companies marketing themselves this way, but I know many in my county are Green-conscious. The trick would seem to be in convincing prospects ahead of time that my cleaning works as well as the other guys'. |
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Michael ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() ![]() Joined: 18/June/2005 Status: Offline Points: 557 |
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Okay, I did some reading in the archives here. ECOgent is now on my list.
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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LilNiteRidrhood is the guy you want to talk to. He is the green cleaning expert
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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I don't have that many green carpets to clean. colour prference I guess.
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Jim Darling ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 159 |
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Michael - You have asked some very good questions. Our Company has been involved in "green" for several years now and i must admit that generally speaking the professional caqrpet cleaning industry has done a good job of sitting on both sides of the fence. Those that recognize the value it brings have embraced it - those that are used to cleaning with nuclear power haven't and more than likely won't. You say that many in your county are green conscious. They are not alone. It is estimated that 15 - 20% of the population is now chemically sensitive, asthma is exploding as are other respiratory ailments. I can tell you from my work with Governments at both the provincial and federal levels tells me that the changes that are coming are here to stay in public buildings. People who operate in the public domain recognize the issues that we face. The scientific evidence is in fact overwhelming. Having said this - at the residential level most of this goes out the window. A cleaner has just one shot to impress the customer and so is inclined to use their favorite "firepower" because it workks really well. Green solutions generally speaking clean the average soil but do not respond as well to trashed out carpets such as found in restaurants or other areas. The new DFC products work very well in the bonnet and encapsulation arena's. If there is a main theme here it simply - lets minimize our exposure (and the customers) to the nasty stuff only when necessary. The nasty stuff will never go away - there will always be a need. However, you are bang on if you market and promote the use of safer chemistry to your customers. i assure you your customers are ready for it. I might also suggest that the EPA is not the greatest place to get info. They do not write standards. Just as the IICRC is recognized for writing standards in the cleaning and restoration industry the most recognized green standards are: Environmental Choice (Canada), green Seal (USA) European Flower (Europe) and the CRI (USA). The latter does not write standards but they do run scientific tests on products to insure they meet the criteria they have set up. Most standards are environmental standards - there is one called CCD146i that is a health standard. This one certainly makes most sense to me as most of the cleaning products certified are all about saving the fish at the expense of the people. If you want more unbiased factual info i have lots of it. let me know |
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cleanex ![]() Carpet Cleaning Specialist ![]() Joined: 17/October/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Go for it! We are using DFC105 every day of the week, we like the results and are real happy with the fact that we now are cleaning for health reasons and not just appearance. Our commercial clients like the fact that no more harsh chemicals are being used to maintain their carpets Green cleaning is just picking up speed and those of us who choose to get on board now will have a head start on the majority who will only change when they are forced to. GO FOR IT! |
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cmaster ![]() IICRC Instigator ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29693 |
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Sorry, Jim and Don. I forgot you were green cleaning experts as well
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MR. STEAMER ![]() True Patriot ![]() Only in the GTA Joined: 03/March/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14549 |
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WOW Clean Green Cleaners.... I guess I can clean green after all my TM is just outside the customers door making tons of pollution...lol |
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carpetologist ![]() The Great Hardini ![]() ![]() Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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Steamer Kleen Kuip could sell you a Crystal Dry cleaning System and it could solve all those Pollution Problems. PS: There is only one problem, you would have to raise your pricing to 44 cents a square foot. |
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JaredW ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 25/May/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 87 |
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as anyone ever used "Simple Green" carpet cleaner to clean. The MSDS on
Simple Green Degreaser is impressive, customers like the fact that
their is no interaction with their chemicals/products, and it's
completely biodegradeable. I use it for commercial cleaning, anyone
used this for carpets? The product i'm speaking of is made in Canada
and specifically used for Carpets. Any comments appreciated.
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carpetologist ![]() The Great Hardini ![]() ![]() Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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I have said it Many, Many, Many times before. Never use a product or instrument in front of your customer's that they can buy locally them selfs. Next time they won't need you. |
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doug ![]() King of the One Liners ![]() Just My opinion Joined: 31/January/2004 Status: Offline Points: 32711 |
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Steamer Kleen Kuip could sell you a Crystal Dry cleaning System and it could solve all those Pollution Problems. PS: There is only one problem, you would have to raise your pricing to 4.4 cents a square foot. |
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carpetologist ![]() The Great Hardini ![]() ![]() Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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Update on DFC Looks like we have another confusing product to sell........50% of DFC users just love it and are extremely happy........20% say it does not work.......30% could care less. Don't give up on it, as Don says, Clean for the Health of it. Edited by Moderator1 |
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Jim Darling ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 29/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 159 |
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JaredW Your post above only makes me squirm a little. Simple Green is the best example of MSDS manipulation i have ever seen. First of all, their product contains about 6% Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether (otherwise known as Butyl cellusolve). They go on to say that it does not carcinogenic. The fact of the matter is that this material has never been tested for cancer! This material is about to be outlawed in Canada Biodegradeable is another favorite of mine. Almost every company I am aware of that claims biodegradeability is referring to individual ingredients - NOT WHOLE FOMULA TESTING. If you really want to find out send them an email and ask for whole formula testing results. i doubt whether they can provide them. Biodegradeability also refers to when the product is exposed to air. The moment your cleaning solution goes down the drain it is no longer in aerobic conditions but anearobic. All data that does not refer to anaerobic is now meaningless. The sad reality is that most MSDS's contain information that very few people know how to read and if they did they wouldn't understand it. i have no doubt that Simple Green cleans very well. Just don't call it green. here is some health information on butyl
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