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    Posted: 18/May/2004 at 8:18pm

maybe bonnet first and then hwe and then bonnet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more money more money!!!
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I guess either way is ok...I find that bonnet after leaves the bonnet swings...you can see them back and forth...steam at the end gives a much more even clean....with my patented double vac
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steamer i would have to agree with doug on this one. bonnet after you hwe. on commercial jobs where i hwe thats what i do. but if it works for you right on.
nothing is impossable. it just hasn't been done yet.
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 way to go Splash!!!
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yes I make a big deal out of the fact that I use 2 machines and I have some contracts that think its the only way to go.

they dont want the guys "with only 1 machine"  that's their words not mine.

btw: these are places that can not be done with a TM.
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and you get paid don't you dash.....lol 2 steps twice the money...trust me if they have dirty carpets they'll pay...but you have to produce
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I use a 170 RPM roto and foam shampoo at 4-7oz/gallon then HWE with fiber-rinse (1.5 PH) Looks great and NEVER get a complaint.
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Originally posted by Harvey Harvey wrote:

     What about the time factor? & the money factor? Most comercial places want you in and out> & not doing a 4 step process to get their carpet clean.
 &  none want to pay .25 cents per sq. to do it right!
No thats where I think you're wrong.... They want a good job...most of them have had it cleaned with nothing but poor results...If they ever had it cleaned with a soap in the tank portable or a 1000 psi truck mount...and got those crappy results....trust me they will pay...

when I do commercial I use two guys....one runs the bonnet machine one does the hwe rinse...takes no longer...the bonnet guy starts first...the other guy drinks a coffee and has a dounut..then starts...lol
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Harvey:  You are right. Some cleaners like cleaning greesy resturants, personally we don't bother with them.  Most are done on a lick and a promise,  they look good the next motning and that is about the extent of the cleaning.  To do it properly I feel about $.30 and upward is what they are worth to remove all the gum, contents and the hour at which they are done.  I better quit before all the commerical cleaners attack.  Just my opinion
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     What about the time factor? & the money factor? Most comercial places want you in and out> & not doing a 4 step process to get their carpet clean.
 &  none want to pay .25 cents per sq. to do it right!
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Mr. Steamer:  Was just askin.  I don't bonnet clean.  So if works all the better.  Just my opinionGuitar
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Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Mr. Streamer:  Why would you bonnet clean first?  I could see shampoo with the brush,  than hot water extract because it seems like a waste of diapers.  Would it not be more beneficial to bonnet after to avoid any wicking and maybe to give it a even appearance. Just my opinionGuitar
bonnet loosens the dirt...moves it around...the carpets get a good rub with the pad and most of the heavy soiling is absorbed...then I extracted with about 200 psi and lots of heat and some nice text tile rinse....

it looks clean after you bonnet but it looks even cleaner after you hwe....when extracting you should double vac the area.....so basically steam down...and dry extract back up the same line... works great...helps the carpets dry much faster

and you should make sure there is plenty of air flowing... if you have air movers use them....if not try to have the HVAC fan system on in the building...nothing worse than having a building where the moisture has no place to go...you'll get lots of wick backs...just get that air moving

This is what works for me....I'm not saying it's the best way...but I have cleaned 10's of 1000's a sq ft this way...with almost no complaints.

I'm only telling you what I do...I didn't say it was right or wrong...draw your own conclusions
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Mr. Streamer:  Why would you bonnet clean first?  I could see shampoo with the brush,  than hot water extract because it seems like a waste of diapers.  Would it not be more benifical to bonnet after to avoid any wicking and maybe to give it a even appearance. Just my opinionGuitar
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OP...OP....OP....I can't wait to get my hands on an op machine....But I currently do all heavy dirty commercial jobs...with a nice bonnet clean first and the a light steam to rinse it all out...you can either use the bonnet pad...or the brush....

thats two methods... .25 cents per square foot at least
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