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I tried to stay out of this as long as I could but I have to say something.

The chemicals this guy Jackblack or whoever is pushing are not even usable in Toronto without using  special dumping procedures.

He sent me the MSDS this afternoon on th'e  '99' stuff and spotter  and they contain butyls and NPEs.

You can't even put NPEs down the sanitary sewer system in Toronto legally. There are some other scary looking ingredients on the MSDS, one that said it had a TLV of 3ppm.

I'll look at the sheets in the morning and run them through scorecard if I have time. We stick to Chemspec first (Ecogent) and then Masterblend' Responsible Care.

The idea that 'soap is soap' is so much bunk.

 

 
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On the Torque 1 product it contains Nonyl phenol exthoxylate (NPE). This is material that according to the laws of Toronto is illegal to dump down the drain

It also contains butyl cellusolv (cas #111-76-2) I thought it was said that there were no butyls in there. It is 86.8% volatile. As a comparison PRC-097 is 0.05%

On z-99 It also contains nonyl phenol ethoxylates

It contains propylene glycol npropyl ether. While not butyl it is in the glycol ether family – definitely stuff that will be on the watch list as it is a neurotoxin. It also contains monoethananolamine. This is an ingredient found in every floor finish stripper. Here is the link to the new jersey fact sheet

http://www.state.nj.us/health/eoh/rtkweb/0835.pdf 

read it carefully – lots of bad stuff, 86.7% volatile. PRC-097 is 0.05%. needless to say a big difference.

 
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it also gets you a 50 buck tip...the restaurant owner can't believe the job you just did...

I wouldn't use it for my own health....but I'm sure a lot of other chemical companies do the same darn thing...they just don't put it on the label or the MSDS
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Oh my next question is...how would you know if they did or not if it wasn't on the label??????
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see still no one can answer
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Its because I dončt know what you are talking about!
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I type a loud a lot don't I......lol I don't even know....lol

I think I was talking about correct labeling...and the lack there of...no one lists all the ingredients in their products...why????
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Originally posted by Stanley Stanley wrote:

I type a loud a lot don't I......lol I don't even know....lol

I think I was talking about correct labeling...and the lack there of...no one lists all the ingredients in their products...why????

Water is probably 70% to 80%. It must be heavy water to make the product work.
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Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Originally posted by Stanley Stanley wrote:

I type a loud a lot don't I......lol I don't even know....lol

I think I was talking about correct labeling...and the lack there of...no one lists all the ingredients in their products...why????

Water is probably 70% to 80%. It must be heavy water to make the product work.

so hell...I'm buying just a big jug of water...lol(I'm a pest aren't I) Ted makes his own cleaning Solutions......I wonder if he knows whats in it...

Hey Ted does that stuff really work???
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I THINK STANLEY LIKES TO HIT THE BOTTLE ALOT BEFORE POSTING THINGS HERE.....IT'S AMAZING THE KNOWLEDGE HE HAS REGARDING CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS, AND LIFE IN GENERAL..........MUST BE ALL THOSE CHEAP CHEMICALS THAT KEEP GIVING HIM THAT GREAT BUZZ..........NO WONDER HE LIKES THEM SO MUCH........YES STANLEY THE EASTER BUNNY IS REAL AND IT'S ON IT'S WAY TO YOUR HOUSE...............

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This could be true....none of my chemicals are cheap....I just get them with out the name attached....I don't want to pay for the name...and Yes Jack the Easter Bunny comes here every year...I clean his fur...repeat customer....lol
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After being on the GTA for a couple of Days I sure feel brainwashed.  Where  do I buy jack's unsafty99? The product that turns carpet into concrete before your very eyes.
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Listen sometimes thats what the customer wants.....Kill me and give me clean carpets......They don't care what you use as long as you get it clean..

I told a customer that I'd have to use Gas on her carpet...she said go right a head I'll sign a wavier...lol she didn't let me finish....

gas............................... and a match
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I once had a customer back in the 80's that ran out of her house and spit on my truck, cause I told her to throw her carpet in the garbage or set it on fire to clean it........the weird thing about it all was the fact that she threw $5.00 at me as I was leaving her driveway.

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