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    Posted: 13/July/2009 at 10:38pm

Guys listen to me.

You can not make money by working for 30% of the job. Your own equipment and chemicals, your van, your insurance, your gas. HIS PROFIT.
Stop making him RICH and you poor! Look at his house then look at yours, look at your car and his....his wife car and yours....you get the picture???
 
Slavery was abolished in Canada in 1834.
 
If everybody refuses 30% then he will have to pay more or he can do the damn job himself if he even knows how!
 
NON FARETE ALCUNI SOLDI SE STIATE LAVORANDO PER 30%
VOCÊ NÃO FARÁ NENHUM DINHEIRO SE VOCÊ ESTÁ TRABALHANDO PARA 30%
 
USTED NO HARÁ NINGÚN DINERO SI USTED ESTÁ TRABAJANDO PARA EL 30%
당신은 당신이 30%를 위해 일하는 경우에 어떤 돈도 벌지 않을 것이다
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My average tech earns 27% and i supply the truck jobs and supplys.
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Originally posted by demonsperm demonsperm wrote:

My average tech earns 27% and i supply the truck jobs and supplys.
Could he make more working at Walmart?
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Average truck runs 2000.00 per week.
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I telemarket the residential & commercial jobs , and I give it out to 3 different guys with their own truckmounts, their products.....but my company name and phone number on the trucks, invoices are under my company, I collect the taxes and there is NO CASH JOBS..........I then sub to them and pay 70% of the contract ( any upsell work is theirs to keep.....how they arrange payment is not my concern .
 
Commercial I take 25%, cleaner keeps upsells. Any and all requests for maintenence of kitchen or renovation is only mine.....I do not sub that work out.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed Valentine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/July/2009 at 10:03am
Hey, perhaps, Ken has a point here. The US Government takes 38% off the top..............then Taxes us to death! But, Hey, that leaves us enough to have our peanutbutter sandwiches; macaroni & cheese; and maybe a bottle of Ripple!
 
never forget that "we" build the bridges that the Big-Boys walk on!
 
 
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I pay 50%. That's fair. They supply their chemicals and gas, I spend hours upon end marketing for jobs and keeping everything in order. It's six one way, half a dozen another. Either put up with the BS of doing the work, or put up with the BS of getting the work, or do both, as I did for about 4 years.

I think a lot of people fail to see what goes on behind the scenes. I spent 12 hours last night updating the website, re-doing the keywords etc. etc. to get better placement. This morning I'm going out and doing three flood reinstalls without collecting any money and I still have to pay my helper. I'm the one with a head ache when things go to hell, I'm the one who works 20 hours when things aren't right to fix it and make sure my guys have jobs on the board.

50% is more than fair. I want my guys to stay with me and live comfortably. I'd pay 20% if I supplied the gas, van and chemicals and 30% on add ons.

I've spent 15 years of my life in the industry and I'm only 30 years old so that tells you something right there. I started telemarketing, then answering calls then working in the field. I'd work for $50/day $100/day, then $200, then $300 and so on and so forth. It's a progession. Everyone thinks they are entitled to more money because they see a large sum coming in but they don't account for the years it takes to build a successful business and a good clientele base. But still, I pay 50% because I want my guys staying with me.

Just some words to consider.


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Ed.....you claim the little guy built the bridges politians walk on , then in return those government officials tax you to the max....................well..........that's because it's the little guys that are dumb and easily fooled and not well educated to believe all the lies .
 
The power is with the people........VOTE THEM OUT
 
DEMAND A POLITIAN WITH A LOW TAX PLATFORM AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL PROMISES
 
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEVR HAVE VOTED A PRESIDENT INTO POWER..........THEY HAVE ALWAYS VOTED A PRESIDENT OUT
 
EVERYONE WAS IN LOVE WITH   " BARRAK MOHAMMOD OBAMA " BUSH WILL LOOK VERY GOOD PRETTY SOON
 
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Nightrider;
 
Talk about "Intelligence"!!  Come on, Nightrider
 
You, sir......................................
 
 
 
 
 
ARE VERY CORRECT, and what you stated:
 
"The power is with the people........VOTE THEM OUT"
 
IS TRUE as the sky is blue!
 
I will vote for everyone I don't know and everyone who is not a "political hack". Heck, can't be any worst off than now.
 
Using "Kitchen Table" Economics;
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Remember Mr. Ross Perot.....Businessman / Activist / Billionaire
 
I think,  and many will oppose my thoughts.....he would have made America 10 times stronger than what it is today.....but people don't vote for smart people..... because smart people look dumb.....most are short, bald , sound like a salesman , boring , and speak from the heart and tell it like it is.....and basically lets face it politics is boring and people like drama with painted rosy dreams that are part of a fairy tale rainbow story .
 
Tell the people what they want to hear.....and you will be their best friend .
 
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Jack may I buy you a cold "50"?
you're on a roll dude.
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Originally posted by Atlantis Atlantis wrote:

I pay 50%. That's fair. They supply their chemicals and gas, I spend hours upon end marketing for jobs and keeping everything in order. It's six one way, half a dozen another. Either put up with the BS of doing the work, or put up with the BS of getting the work, or do both, as I did for about 4 years.
50% is good but at 30% in Toronto you end up making the same as a warehouse worker who just picks orders from 9-5 and does not have to work commercial carpet cleaning all night long.
 
The original post is aimed at certain companies in Toronto who focus only on commercial floor care and pay their slaves 29-31%
 
OH and by the way....that is 30% of $.06 to $.10 a square foot


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I just got back from a customer this morning.....my appointment with him was at 5:00am  took an hour to visit most of the 80,000 sq. feet of carpet to be cleaned.....after I took 97 pictures we went to his office where he showed me an estimate another company gave him a week ago...........are you sitting down.........take a sip of coffee..................... The quote was 3.5 cents / sq foot...................he wanted me to do better..............I thanked him for the tour, the coffee & danish as well for his time ..... and politely said  " I understand the tough economic times we are all facing , and the quote you showed me reflects the hardships and desperation that some companies are experiencing to lower their companies name and employees efforts to zero in order to appease large conglomerates like yourselves just to satisfy your bottom line .
 
How is that guy going to make any money.....does anyone else here work that cheap.
 
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Nightrider;
 
Great posts!  (Regarding our rediculous Politians)
 
 
Very best to all;
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