Stop working for 30%
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Topic: Stop working for 30%
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Subject: Stop working for 30%
Date Posted: 13/July/2009 at 10:38pm
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Guys listen to me. You can not make money by working for 30% of the job. Your own equipment and chemicals, your van, your insurance, your gas. HIS PROFIT.Stop making him RICH and you poor! Look at his house then look at yours, look at your car and his....his wife car and yours....you get the picture???
Slavery was abolished in Canada in 1834.
If everybody refuses 30% then he will have to pay more or he can do the damn job himself if he even knows how!
NON FARETE ALCUNI SOLDI SE STIATE LAVORANDO PER 30% VOCÊ NÃO FARÁ NENHUM DINHEIRO SE VOCÊ ESTÁ TRABALHANDO PARA 30% USTED NO HARÁ NINGUÌN DINERO SI USTED ESTÁ TRABAJANDO PARA EL 30% 당신은 당신이 30%를 위해 일하는 경우에 어떤 돈도 벌지 않을 것이다 |
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Posted By: demonsperm
Date Posted: 13/July/2009 at 10:57pm
| My average tech earns 27% and i supply the truck jobs and supplys. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 13/July/2009 at 11:42pm
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demonsperm wrote:Posted By: demonsperm
Date Posted: 13/July/2009 at 11:44pm
| Average truck runs 2000.00 per week. |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 8:30am
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I telemarket the residential & commercial jobs , and I give it out to 3 different guys with their own truckmounts, their products.....but my company name and phone number on the trucks, invoices are under my company, I collect the taxes and there is NO CASH JOBS..........I then sub to them and pay 70% of the contract ( any upsell work is theirs to keep.....how they arrange payment is not my concern .
Commercial I take 25%, cleaner keeps upsells. Any and all requests for maintenence of kitchen or renovation is only mine.....I do not sub that work out.
Nightrider
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 10:03am
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Hey, perhaps, Ken has a point here. The US Government takes 38% off the top..............then Taxes us to death! But, Hey, that leaves us enough to have our peanutbutter sandwiches; macaroni & cheese; and maybe a bottle of Ripple!
never forget that "we" build the bridges that the Big-Boys walk on!
"Name held by request"
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Posted By: Atlantis
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 10:51am
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I pay 50%. That's fair. They supply their chemicals and gas, I spend hours upon end marketing for jobs and keeping everything in order. It's six one way, half a dozen another. Either put up with the BS of doing the work, or put up with the BS of getting the work, or do both, as I did for about 4 years. I think a lot of people fail to see what goes on behind the scenes. I spent 12 hours last night updating the website, re-doing the keywords etc. etc. to get better placement. This morning I'm going out and doing three flood reinstalls without collecting any money and I still have to pay my helper. I'm the one with a head ache when things go to hell, I'm the one who works 20 hours when things aren't right to fix it and make sure my guys have jobs on the board. 50% is more than fair. I want my guys to stay with me and live comfortably. I'd pay 20% if I supplied the gas, van and chemicals and 30% on add ons. I've spent 15 years of my life in the industry and I'm only 30 years old so that tells you something right there. I started telemarketing, then answering calls then working in the field. I'd work for $50/day $100/day, then $200, then $300 and so on and so forth. It's a progession. Everyone thinks they are entitled to more money because they see a large sum coming in but they don't account for the years it takes to build a successful business and a good clientele base. But still, I pay 50% because I want my guys staying with me. Just some words to consider. |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 1:26pm
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Ed.....you claim the little guy built the bridges politians walk on , then in return those government officials tax you to the max....................well..........that's because it's the little guys that are dumb and easily fooled and not well educated to believe all the lies .
The power is with the people........VOTE THEM OUT
DEMAND A POLITIAN WITH A LOW TAX PLATFORM AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL PROMISES
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEVR HAVE VOTED A PRESIDENT INTO POWER..........THEY HAVE ALWAYS VOTED A PRESIDENT OUT
EVERYONE WAS IN LOVE WITH " BARRAK MOHAMMOD OBAMA " BUSH WILL LOOK VERY GOOD PRETTY SOON
Nightrider
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 1:41pm
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Nightrider;
Talk about "Intelligence"!! Come on, Nightrider
You, sir......................................
ARE VERY CORRECT, and what you stated:
"The power is with the people........VOTE THEM OUT"
IS TRUE as the sky is blue!
I will vote for everyone I don't know and everyone who is not a "political hack". Heck, can't be any worst off than now.
Using "Kitchen Table" Economics;
Name-held by request
(please forward the tea bags!)
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 3:38pm
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Remember Mr. Ross Perot.....Businessman / Activist / Billionaire
I think, and many will oppose my thoughts.....he would have made America 10 times stronger than what it is today.....but people don't vote for smart people..... because smart people look dumb.....most are short, bald , sound like a salesman , boring , and speak from the heart and tell it like it is.....and basically lets face it politics is boring and people like drama with painted rosy dreams that are part of a fairy tale rainbow story .
Tell the people what they want to hear.....and you will be their best friend .
Nightrider
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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 6:26pm
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Jack may I buy you a cold "50"?
you're on a roll dude.
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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 14/July/2009 at 6:29pm
The original post is aimed at certain companies in Toronto who focus only on commercial floor care and pay their slaves 29-31%
OH and by the way....that is 30% of $.06 to $.10 a square foot
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 15/July/2009 at 7:26am
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I just got back from a customer this morning.....my appointment with him was at 5:00am took an hour to visit most of the 80,000 sq. feet of carpet to be cleaned.....after I took 97 pictures we went to his office where he showed me an estimate another company gave him a week ago...........are you sitting down.........take a sip of coffee..................... The quote was 3.5 cents / sq foot...................he wanted me to do better..............I thanked him for the tour, the coffee & danish as well for his time ..... and politely said " I understand the tough economic times we are all facing , and the quote you showed me reflects the hardships and desperation that some companies are experiencing to lower their companies name and employees efforts to zero in order to appease large conglomerates like yourselves just to satisfy your bottom line .
How is that guy going to make any money.....does anyone else here work that cheap.
Nightrider
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 15/July/2009 at 12:39pm
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Nightrider;
Great posts! (Regarding our rediculous Politians)
Very best to all;
Ed Valentine
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Posted By: Atlantis
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 11:10am
That's A LOT of carpet! Damn! $2500 though....that's a tough one. You could pay someone $10 an hour to do it, probably take 20 man hours but you'd still make a good amount of money. The way I see it, if they want the cheapest, that's what they'll get. Still, if you did it yourself,that's $100+ an hour which is what you should be making working for yourself anyway. Doesn't sound like a bad deal though. Still, that's A LOT of carpet. I just did one for $.30/sq. ft, 10,000 sq. ft. nursing home. If you've got a lot on your plate then yea, pass it up, but if you're hungry, go for it. I've done stuff next to nothing just because I was hungry. Did a $1500 flood the other day for $500. But it only took 3 hours, 1 hour on the inital trip, two hours for the reinstall. I gave him the equipment rental for free but used left over pad from other jobs. I had about 2 sq. ft. left over after that.. so it worked out PERFECT. Still though, you take it when you can get it, better than sitting at home!! |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 2:55pm
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4 guys.. 4 cimex.. Will take about 10hours..
Pay them $10hr..
 Thats $400..
 @ .03sft you keep $2000 minus the Cimex rentals..
 and sit in air condition office
or at the beach with the babes!!
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 3:04pm
And minus chemicals...............
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 3:50pm
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You didn't see the pics I took......................lots iof desks, chairs, furniture and other goodies all over the place.....Plus all those plastics on the floor for the office chairs with wheels.....you know the kind.....with the nice black rim on the carpet outlining where the plastic was
Nightrider
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 7:15pm
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Post them nightrider.. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 16/July/2009 at 9:11pm
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good going nightrider you guys who are thinking it was going to be good money don't do much commercial work do you?
I do commercial every day...you have to put up with a lot of sh*t trying to get in and out of the buildings, parking and find the water---then you WAIT to get paid.
good walking away Jack.
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Posted By: RIP IT
Date Posted: 17/July/2009 at 1:44am
------------- Dont treat people like customers. Treat them like friends. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/July/2009 at 12:06am
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When you are an owner operator you know what it is to make 100%... IT IS NICE But when you don't have a lot of work and it gets real real slow your willing to do anything even at 30%... sad but true... I've been there many times.
people subbing out the work know that you aren't making any money, but the job has to get done
I've done sub work where the min call is 69 bucks and I was only getting 35%...45% or 50%....trust me it aint nothing...by the time I get the truck ready and drive there and do the cleaning most times i'm in the hole...LOL The problem is I won't ever drop my quality of cleaning...
everypenny counts at the end of the month ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/July/2009 at 1:44pm
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Good point Mr.Steamer.
That job would have banked me at least $1000 clear
in the Biz acct after all expenses and Hay i was on
the beach with the babes... LOL Ken is OK!
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 18/July/2009 at 8:50pm
You got that right John. About the perfect Woman I mean, eh?  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 19/July/2009 at 4:31pm
| you wish johnny boy |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/July/2009 at 8:29am
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don't forgert the perfect woman is also 4' tall with a flat head so you have somewhere to set your beer??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 22/July/2009 at 1:06pm
Good Point Doug!  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 22/July/2009 at 5:47pm
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With no teeth...
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Posted By: RIP IT
Date Posted: 22/July/2009 at 5:51pm
takeyourteethoutnanna.com  ------------- Dont treat people like customers. Treat them like friends. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/July/2009 at 1:42pm
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sounds like the perfect "10" ------------- Just My opinion |