OP Cleaning

hi freshaire- i take it you do some OP cleaning. do you use one of padmans machines? do you think a person could do a good business with just OP or do you still need HWE besides? thanks RICK.

Hi Rick, got me one of the Challenger machines, albeit highly modified form when I took delivery of it. New one to look out for is the Orbot, am awesome piece of machinery in this sphere of cleaning, rivalling the Cimex for speed (has a 21" pad attachment option!) but 10 kgs lighter and able to be folded up and put into the boot of a car!!

Easy to use, very spacey/futuristic looking, if I didn't have so much time and effort put into my current machine and it working so well for me, I'd be buying an Orbot, no questions asked!

Use either machine with Fibre Touch pads and/or Gladiator Pads and you won't look back!

Having said that, it is not the be-all and end-all, with heavy staining/soiling you will still need an extractor of some description, especially if dealing with something like urine, but as a cleaning system it is impressive overall; in commercial applications; indispensable!

On a carpet that you'd normally consider throwing away, put the two systems together i.e. HWE first then encap over it and you will be thoroughly amazed at how well it works. Want any proof, PM me your email address and I'll send you plenty of before and after shots that'll have you scratching your head wondering how the hell it was possible to restore a carpet that you'd normally wanna walk away from to such a high level, and still do it at a price that would be a fraction of the replacement cost; got some very grateful and high-paying customers out of this way of doing things! (over 70c/sqft, at least here in Australia I can)

OP is good, but when you have spillages that have soaked right through e.g. urine, that's where it falls down and cannot match HWE, especially not if you happened to have a Claw.

Having said that, on an average soiled commercial job, OP is King!

Simply a case of the right tool for the right job in the right context.

"If I want your opinion I will flush twice"

you'll hafta change your tag there in that case mate, maybe to something like

"If I want your opinion, I'll wipe once...?"



PS, how do you figure HWE pushes dirt further down and where is your evidence of it? I can show you documented evidence of the opposite if you want to go into pedantics, but I still say on low level piles OP rules. It simply isn't up to it the deeper a pile gets, it just gets too slow and cumbersome and that's where a properly done HWE will win out. (Note I said properly done, not splash'n'dash!)

I know for you, doing mainly commercial work, you'd be choosing OP as do I, but in the residential sector I pick and choose and if I get to a really nasty one, HWE then follow up with OP and then you'll see C-L-E-A-N!!!

And by the way, with regards to wicking, personally I've never had a wickback with HWE on any job in the last 13 years since getting proper training to show me how to avoid those scenarios. Right cleaning agents, right temperatures, right water pressures, agitation and suitable extraction all come into play on any job you do, including OP! Get any part of the equation wrong and you will end up with problems...

Saw a guy here who thought an encap was the be all and end all and figured that any amount poured into a carpet was ok so he flooded one, scrubbed it & walked away- till the next day when the customer called him back and he had to deal with wickback and browning on a major scale! He simply got the equation wrong and BINGO, one big problem for him to sort out and an unhappy customer. He still uses the system now, but has had to learn from his mistake, just as everyone should learn from their mistakes. He could've turned around and said the system was crap, but it wasn't- he was in that instance. At least he had the guts to admit it, deal with it and learn from it.

No system is perfect (of course inless I'm doing it hahahaa!!) and the sooner everyone gets a grip on that the better.

Once again, right tools, right job





Edited by FreshAire - 15/October/2008 at 7:30am

"The PADMAN really knows his stuff and represents some terrific equipment for this Industry. I know this because I have personally met the man, seen his presentation; seen it work in action; witnessed the quality..................and the personal attention that he and his lovely wife give to each and every person.

Freshaire, you need some.

so what's your point??Are you sayiing becaues of your lack of knowledge regarding HWE you are going with vlm???