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Laserman 
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 Topic: Recoil3 problemPosted: 25/February/2008 at 8:35am |
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Guys,
When using my recoil3 with my Hydramaster drimaster tool I keep gettting water leaking from one of vac exhaust ports. I've been decreasing my detergent ratio in the machine to almost nothing as well as my prespray . What Am I missing here? I'm using defoamer in the tank and throught the vac hose as I'm going. I'm not getting much foam but still the leaking occurs. I'm afraid that soon I'm gonna ruin this vac motor before long. What could be the problem? I'm stuck here. Barry |
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Ed Valentine
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Posted: 25/February/2008 at 11:52am |
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Barry;
I would contact; Rick Lord at 770-598-7463. He used to run a drymaster as well. Perhaps he can give you some insight.
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John L
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Posted: 25/February/2008 at 1:36pm |
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Its either foam or your shutoff isnt working properly. Your vacs are sucking in moisture obviously.. Make sure the water level don't go past the redline.. |
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Posted: 26/February/2008 at 12:14am |
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John,
This happens when the Waste tank is Low. I'm gonna try reducing the areas I Prespray down to only the sections that need it. Are there Presprays That are low foaming? This seems to Occur whatever Prespray I try. Barry |
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Posted: 26/February/2008 at 12:26am |
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Procyon is soap FREE and an excellent prespray.
Edited by danmarck82 - 26/February/2008 at 12:27am |
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Posted: 26/February/2008 at 12:16pm |
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You might want to check the stack in the wastetank connected to that vac motor.. There might be a crack/loose connection in it at a lower level sucking in a small amount of water..
I use Chemspec's stuff.. No foam..
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Posted: 26/February/2008 at 12:46pm |
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[QUOTE=John L]You might want to check the stack in the wastetank connected to that vac motor.. There might be a crack/loose connection in it at a lower level sucking in a small amount of water..
Good call John, I had that happen once to me
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Posted: 27/February/2008 at 8:40pm |
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Thanks Guys,
I've just about figured that I just can't prespray very much at all. I cleaned a condo unit this moring and just prespotted instead of prespraying. No dripping from the exhaust. Later in the day I did another unit PreSpraying with Procyon and the Leaking from the exhaust happened again. Could it be that the Drymaster causing this somehow? I'm using Defoamer and Not Getting alot of foam. Soons as I can I gonna hook up my regular wand and prespray as usual to see if this occurs with the wand. So far I'm very disapointed with this extracter. My galaxy extracter NEVER does this at all. I'll also check for the cracks. Barry |
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Posted: 28/February/2008 at 10:12am |
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Laserman;
Can't figure out what your problem is either (as long as I have been doing this). Other than the fact that the cleaning agent pre-spray --has to be--too darn foamy. Have you put the anti-foam in your solution tank so as to kill the foam collected inside your hoses before entering into your recovery tank?
If one thinks about this, you certainly have--more than enough---vacuum extraction performance. And, you certainly have enough room inside the vacuum tank. And, your vacuum stack pipe is protected by a float (does not respond to foam; only water btw) and surrounded by a protective flange. Therefore, it appears to me through my experience, that it is a simple adjustment of what it is you are using or how you are using it.
It is true that a lower performance system will be less likely to "vacuum in foam" than a he system ever will. However, there's that word again: "Foam".
Hope this helps;
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Posted: 28/February/2008 at 5:29pm |
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Get the powdered defoamer that Chemspec sells. If the problem is foam, that product will solve it for you. It kills all foam before it can reach the tank. trying to kill foam in the tank is the wrong approach IMO. Some of it is bound to get into the motor if you wait to kill it there.
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Posted: 28/February/2008 at 9:55pm |
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I Didn't have any jobs that I used the extracter for today, all dry clean day today. Tomorrow I should be able to experiment again. I have put Defoamer in the solution tank. Whenever I prespray wall to wall water leaks out the exhaust, when I just lightly spot the bad areas It works just fine. I've tried 4 different Prespays all have failed. The last being Procyon which should not foam. I don't think the problem is foam related. I'm not leaking Foam out the exhaust, I'm leaking water. About 1/2 to 1 gallon is leaked out on a LR/DR 2 Bdr condo job. This extracter is also Leaking dirty waste water on my van floor overnight. There's usally about an inch of waste water still in the tank when i load in back in the van. Something is wrong and I think I'm gonna have to let a repairman take a look at it. Ed, Where does my warranty stand?
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Posted: 28/February/2008 at 10:21pm |
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Sounds like a cracked waste tank
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Posted: 29/February/2008 at 6:23pm |
I doubt that's possible, it's brand new and has been CAREFULLY treated and used maybe 10 times. Unless is arrived in that condition. Barry |
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Posted: 29/February/2008 at 6:52pm |
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Easy to check that theory out Barry. Get some red or blue food color and add it to a 2 gallon bucket of water. Pour into machine. Let it sit for 10 minutes. Look in the machine body underneath the tank. If you see color there, you know your tank is leaking. If it leaks , water can drip onto the motor(s)and be drawn into the motor(s). Worth checking out.
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