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    Posted: 18/October/2007 at 9:46pm
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What's the word on the US Products King Cobra Extractors?  I'm thinking about buying a Portable with heat and High PSI levels to also do tile.  I really like the Wand Caddy and Built in Hose reel.
 
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The word seems to be that it's not as good in person as on paper, especially the heat. The guys who fix machines at my supplier love it though. It's really easy to work on because there's lots of room that allows for a user-friendly layout of components. I saw one demonstrated for tile use and I was impressed. On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the Stonetech instructor recommended the method I'd already been doing instead: prescrub with a floor machine and then extract using 500 psi. I'd rather have 1200 psi, but that's what the guy said. Also, if you instead purchase a less expensive porty plus a floor machine, you'll spend roughly the same amount  as for just the King Cobra and be in a better position to expand your services.
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If you want POWER in performance (extraction) and HIGH PRESSURE in an electric 120v machine, you won't find it out there. Give up the HEAT (amp) demand that will not heat a drop of water on any high pressure psi machine, and you might be happy!

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geez Ed, I'm still an apprentice with 30 years. Electric is an absolute misnomer. If you have any flow from the pump, it can't and won't keep up. Add to that the pump priming problems with internal "heaters" and blow that part out of the water, so to speak.
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But, Willy, together you and I only have 65 years experience. Surely not enough to give a truthful and honest bit of advice!


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Generally speaking, if you're using a portable you have a good chance that you'll be hooked up to the customer's water supply and will have their heated water available.  Even with a TM, if you're doing a commercial kitchen or large restroom, you're going to have to refill your tanks at the customer's site or drive elsewhere to get water. So with the porty you have the possibilty of hot water, plus 1200-1500 psi with auto fill and dump. That's all you need, even though exteranl heaters are still a possibility.
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The one I had gave me alot more heat than any kitchen faucet could.. For carpet.. LOL
 
For T&G high pressure probably not..Dead
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Originally posted by Ed Valentine Ed Valentine wrote:

But, Willy, together you and I only have 65 years experience. Surely not enough to give a truthful and honest bit of advice!


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Have you used one Willy? Or Ed? In the last 65yrs.. ?   LOL 

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Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

 
The one I had gave me alot more heat than any kitchen faucet could.. For carpet.. LOL
 
For T&G high pressure probably not..Dead


I have no idea what the temp on mine is for carpet. It does come out with a lot of steam, however.  And that's using the two internal heaters, two 3-stage vacs and a 450psi pump on two 20amp circuits. The water  I put in the tank is about 100 degrees F. I'm happy with it.

On tile I wouldn't put more than 140 degree water in the tank, for the sake of the life of the pump.


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Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

Have you used one Willy? Or Ed? In the last 65yrs.. ?   LOL 



It's just not possible to heat the water if you have any pressure and flow. A 15 amp circuit will not be able to heat the water that fast. And I have used quite a few. Over the last 65 years.
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