King Cobra
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Topic: King Cobra
Posted By: Laserman
Subject: King Cobra
Date Posted: 18/October/2007 at 9:46pm
Hi,
What's the word on the US Products King Cobra Extractors? I'm thinking about buying a Portable with heat and High PSI levels to also do tile. I really like the Wand Caddy and Built in Hose reel.
Barry
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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 18/October/2007 at 10:02pm
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/October/2007 at 11:04pm
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 18/October/2007 at 11:13pm
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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 4:09am
The word seems to be that it's not as good in person as on paper, especially the heat. The guys who fix machines at my supplier love it though. It's really easy to work on because there's lots of room that allows for a user-friendly layout of components. I saw one demonstrated for tile use and I was impressed. On the other hand, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the Stonetech instructor recommended the method I'd already been doing instead: prescrub with a floor machine and then extract using 500 psi. I'd rather have 1200 psi, but that's what the guy said. Also, if you instead purchase a less expensive porty plus a floor machine, you'll spend roughly the same amount as for just the King Cobra and be in a better position to expand your services.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 8:39am
If you want POWER in performance (extraction) and HIGH PRESSURE in an electric 120v machine, you won't find it out there. Give up the HEAT (amp) demand that will not heat a drop of water on any high pressure psi machine, and you might be happy!
Just think about it.
With 35 years experience;
The best of Luck;
ED Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: Just Ol' Willy
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 10:24am
geez Ed, I'm still an apprentice with 30 years. Electric is an absolute misnomer. If you have any flow from the pump, it can't and won't keep up. Add to that the pump priming problems with internal "heaters" and blow that part out of the water, so to speak.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 12:11pm
But, Willy, together you and I only have 65 years experience. Surely not enough to give a truthful and honest bit of advice!
LOL.
hee-hee-hee
Ed V
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 5:37pm
Generally speaking, if you're using a portable you have a good chance that you'll be hooked up to the customer's water supply and will have their heated water available. Even with a TM, if you're doing a commercial kitchen or large restroom, you're going to have to refill your tanks at the customer's site or drive elsewhere to get water. So with the porty you have the possibilty of hot water, plus 1200-1500 psi with auto fill and dump. That's all you need, even though exteranl heaters are still a possibility.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 8:10pm
The one I had gave me alot more heat than any kitchen faucet could.. For carpet..
For T&G high pressure probably not..
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Posted By: Just Ol' Willy
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 8:19pm
Ed Valentine wrote:
But, Willy, together you and I only have 65 years experience. Surely not enough to give a truthful and honest bit of advice!
LOL.
hee-hee-hee
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65 YEARS? Maybe we should retire. ( I was tired yesterday and I'm retired today)
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 19/October/2007 at 9:09pm
Have you used one Willy? Or Ed? In the last 65yrs.. ?
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 20/October/2007 at 12:49am
John L wrote:
The one I had gave me alot more heat than any kitchen faucet could.. For carpet..
For T&G high pressure probably not.. |
I have no idea what the temp on mine is for carpet. It does come out with a lot of steam, however. And that's using the two internal heaters, two 3-stage vacs and a 450psi pump on two 20amp circuits. The water I put in the tank is about 100 degrees F. I'm happy with it.
On tile I wouldn't put more than 140 degree water in the tank, for the sake of the life of the pump.
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Posted By: Just Ol' Willy
Date Posted: 20/October/2007 at 9:23am
John L wrote:
Have you used one Willy? Or Ed? In the last 65yrs.. ?
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It's just not possible to heat the water if you have any pressure and flow. A 15 amp circuit will not be able to heat the water that fast. And I have used quite a few. Over the last 65 years.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 20/October/2007 at 10:59am
You used the wrong one/ones... Its is possible and Its real man.. I dont think you ever tried one..
For all the newbies getting into the business with a portable and cant afford a Lil'Giant propane heater this is your best deal for heat.. ProChem 2000.. And it get hot hot hot..
Pull your wand back and clean stroke.. Now go up the same path for a dry stroke.. Overlap a couple inches or so and do it again.. This way it keeps good hot heat.. Dont listen to Willy and Ed..
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Posted By: nscrcr8z
Date Posted: 20/October/2007 at 5:23pm
hello everyone...can anyone give me any remarks on the mytee m12 tile and grout extractor considerinf buying one...carpet cleaner for a few years now....wanting to get into tile and grout cleaning wanting to expand....how is th e mytee.... i am currently cleaning a commercial grout job right now around 11000 sq ft...whats the going rate where you guys or from....for that type of sq footage/........
thanks and any info will be appreciated
scott
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 20/October/2007 at 8:30pm
John, you're right, that heater rocks. But remember the original post was asking about tile and grout machines.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/October/2007 at 9:02am
Your right FH..
See how these guys can get you off track.. Someone DONT like HEAT.. Or dont want you to buy the KC..
If the manufacturer installs a heater in the King Cobra and it has high psi capabilities.. You would think it would do the job..
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Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 27/October/2007 at 9:24pm
The reason I liked the machine was the built in Hose real, 1200 PSI for Tile, Adjustable PSI for Carpet, the Wand caddy, auto fill & Auto dump,and heat. I mostly do Low Moisture Dry cleaning in Residential and Condo accounts in Florida on the beach. Dry cleaning here used to be Big but recently there's been more and more condo rental managers moving towards Extraction. I need a machine that can do tile but I also want to add more accounts for extraction. Going in and out of condos and up and down elavators takes time. Being able to make one trip in would be Great. This machine makes that possible. I was just wondering if it would be a good machine for cleaning carpet.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 27/October/2007 at 11:28pm
Go see it.. Then test run it.. Something I wanted to do when i bought my last portable but didnt because it was getting late.. I should have brought dirty carpet ( a few diff. types) and ran 25 then 50 then 75 then 100 then 150 then 200' of hose to clean.. Thats an expensive portable.. How much? $5k?
You can get a nice pressure washer for cheap at H.Depot or Walmart and get the cheapest portable.. lile a mytee or Uncle Sams distributing has the Timbucktoo for $695 and save the rest for a TM if your in it for the long haul. You'll be glad you did.
Don't be dumb like I was and go through 4 portables...
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Posted By: HJTRAS
Date Posted: 28/October/2007 at 12:31pm
I purchased 2 king cobra's. I must say I learned real fast how to work on them. The 12v pump motor was an assanine idea, the motors burn out all the time I bought 120v motors and rewired for it. the Blower motor is a lower quality motor and replaced them. also the heater burns out all the time but at least they have a lifetime warranty. You must always have a fresh spray tip on the wands or you will lose pressure. don't think you will be cleaning at 500 psi it just wont happen.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 28/October/2007 at 8:33pm
Sounds like a high priced plastic junk...
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