so i cleaned my carpet last night

Rick,

It's chelating (keelating) agents.

OK...someone who knows more than me about cleaning chemicals jump in here...I pre spray with an emulsifier...a surfactant...I then extract with a cleaning chemical that has keeling agents (not sure about the spelling)...keeling agent are supposed to be able to attract any soap residue and allow it to be pulled out of the carpet in the extraction process...leaving no residue behind...I have never had any problems with re-soiling or stiff carpet...I figure that it works because I have cleaned some carpets that that were stiff before I cleaned them and were soft after...and I have noticed that my dump water would be a lot sudsier than normal...but, I think it could be a lot of reasons behind this:

1) too much chemical was used...some think if a little
   does good, a lot will do even better...not true

2) extraction was done too fast...didn't pick up enough
   water...this would also account for long drying time

3) the wrong chemicals were used...either alone or in
   combination...you would be supprised what some people
   will use cleaning carpets

anyway, I have had success with the method and chemicals that I use...I have been told that the chemicals I use are "pricy"...but even the most expensive chemicals that I use are still such a small amount of my operating expenses...

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doug come on,

waste of time, no doug.im going to try what you said.pretty sure no sludge.well see.

so doug are you saying  prespray with your extraction chem(whatever it is) then just run water through the machine to extract?dwell time of my extraction chem.the only way to get dwell time is pre spraying?

i prespray and scrub stains then extract w/point blue extraction emulsifer(soap right).bad idea?what do you think?

the other day in my house i just used my point blue with lots of water.loosk great and soft.why?

 

I read you post on the other boards. I believe you were told to pre spray using a pre spray. I have no idea what you put threw your machine. some use a rince other don't it is your preference. You cannot get dwell time putting cleaner threw your machine unless you turn off your vac and flood?? If you are prespraying why are you still running a cleaning chem threw you machine? This is pretty basic suff. Before I would hire someone who puts the cleaner threw the machine I would rent one and get the same results.  It is not the 80 or 90% of the cleaning solutiion you get back that is the problem it is the 10 or 20% you leave behind that causes rapid resoiling, carpet stiffness and a host of other  problems.  Goog luck how ever you plan to clean.  Just don't try to put words in my mouth.  If you want to learn then ask. Don't try and bull$hit me. I have been around the block a couple of times.

P.S.- I use a HydroForce. And thank you Mr. Cmaster.

Edited by Willy Parsons

OK My 2 cents

1) Clean with BOTH a prespray and a good emulsifier.

2) Prespray only the traffic areas.(They used to call it traffic lane cleaner for a reason.)If you're using a decent emulsifier, it will clean effectivly in non traffic areas.

3) For heavily soiled carpets, use some form of agitation after prespraying.

4) Here I go, argueing with Rick again- Prespray temp doesn't matter a whit. It won't emusify any better as it has long since cooled down by the time you're cleaning and heat without the other 3 pieces of the pie won't do anything.

5) Stiffness can be corrected with an acid overspray or acid rinse. Just remember the acids will negate cleaning power as it will nuetralize your detergents.

Guess those chemical formulators just got lucky, eh?

Hydroforce works for me