tried something different

i normally use a pre spray first(really) most of the areas.not too much.

then i use point blue(soap) to extract.

yesterday, i just used my soap w/no prespray.but i used my hole tank of water.maybe 10 gallons for three rooms.much more water than normal.it took about four hours to dry.normally about two maybe.

well its only been one day,cant say how resoiling will be.but the carpets seem softer,not stiff.like other times.look good.i did have some stains that always seem to come back.so ill let you know.some people just prespray then rinse w/water.

so i guess when i pre spray i didnt use enough water and soap to extract???????????

whats the deal???is that too much water?what makes the carpet stiff?

anything else to try???

what is the best (or good ) sprayer???

tell me the name and web site where I can see it.

THANK YOU

doug come on,

waste of time, no doug.im going to try what you said.pretty sure no sludge.well see.

so doug are you saying  prespray with your extraction chem(whatever it is) then just run water through the machine to extract?dwell time of my extraction chem.the only way to get dwell time is pre spraying?

i prespray and scrub stains then extract w/point blue extraction emulsifer(soap right).bad idea?what do you think?

the other day in my house i just used my point blue with lots of water.loosk great and soft.why?

OK My 2 cents

1) Clean with BOTH a prespray and a good emulsifier.

2) Prespray only the traffic areas.(They used to call it traffic lane cleaner for a reason.)If you're using a decent emulsifier, it will clean effectivly in non traffic areas.

3) For heavily soiled carpets, use some form of agitation after prespraying.

4) Here I go, argueing with Rick again- Prespray temp doesn't matter a whit. It won't emusify any better as it has long since cooled down by the time you're cleaning and heat without the other 3 pieces of the pie won't do anything.

5) Stiffness can be corrected with an acid overspray or acid rinse. Just remember the acids will negate cleaning power as it will nuetralize your detergents.

doug come on,

waste of time, no doug.im going to try what you said.pretty sure no sludge.well see.

so doug are you saying  prespray with your extraction chem(whatever it is) then just run water through the machine to extract?dwell time of my extraction chem.the only way to get dwell time is pre spraying?

i prespray and scrub stains then extract w/point blue extraction emulsifer(soap right).bad idea?what do you think?

the other day in my house i just used my point blue with lots of water.loosk great and soft.why?

I read you post on the other boards. I believe you were told to pre spray using a pre spray. I have no idea what you put threw your machine. some use a rince other don't it is your preference. You cannot get dwell time putting cleaner threw your machine unless you turn off your vac and flood?? If you are prespraying why are you still running a cleaning chem threw you machine? This is pretty basic suff. Before I would hire someone who puts the cleaner threw the machine I would rent one and get the same results.  It is not the 80 or 90% of the cleaning solutiion you get back that is the problem it is the 10 or 20% you leave behind that causes rapid resoiling, carpet stiffness and a host of other  problems.  Goog luck how ever you plan to clean.  Just don't try to put words in my mouth.  If you want to learn then ask. Don't try and bull$hit me. I have been around the block a couple of times.

The point of the question Doug was to find out how YOU do it.Its just a question!I didnt put words in your mouth. i'm asking a dam question.

dam doug,im not out to get you.im the nicest guy ever.but anytime i post anything, your all over me.

look at willies post.thats what i do.

last time i did them i left out the pre spray and used lots of water.they came out great.thats all nothing more.

doug im just tring to find out what works for other  people.

Rick,

It's chelating (keelating) agents.