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Alexarz 
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 Posted: 25/September/2011 at 8:21am |
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Gas truckmounts simply do not have the vac power advantage that many think. My 4 vac M5 produces excellent water recovery, at least as good as any truckmount. The 3 HT water heater that Mr Harris mentioned produces better heat than a heat exchanger on a TM.
Ken, you are singing to the choir. Most carpet cleaners are very close-minded and refuse to acknowledge that there is a better way. This stubborn mindset will be the foundation for those who go "belly up". Nature is what it is and some must fall by the wayside. It's a thing of beauty in reality. |
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 24/September/2011 at 9:40pm |
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There is a chance that the big shortage of oil can be delayed a year or 2. If the second stage of the Depression we are in goes down faster than it did in 2008 there is the chance that enough oil consumption can be removed from the system before the really big squeeze(90 million barrels/day) arrives. Only postponed, China and India consumption will still keep rising. But if the Financial markets melt down rapidly enough they will take oil down too. Then oil will drop below $50 again and gas back to $2.00/gal or less breifly. But it wont last long before supply issues drive it right back up regardless of the Depression here.The USA is burning about 18 million barrels of oil per day currently. The most that could fall to is about 16 mb/d without severe shortages. That 2 million b/d difference would be consumed by China alone in a year. After that the price will rise to at least $300/barrel before leveling off.
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dmreed4311
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Posted: 24/September/2011 at 9:10pm |
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Gas is 3.33 a gallon here in Florida. The cost of gas will never be a factor in what type of equipment I use, I want the best and this electric Tm is not going to come close. By the way if gas ever gets to 10.00 a gallon where i live cleaning carpets will be the last on the list of anyone, keeping the looters away will be a full time job.
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John L
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Posted: 24/September/2011 at 5:18pm |
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 . Good points Ken.
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Ken Harris
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Only thing you arer overlooking John is what happens when you cant get the gas .
That is coming as soon as next year. The oil supply has peaked out at 87 million barrels per day. The trouble is next year the demand is going up to 90 million barrels per day. A 4% difference between supply and demand causes a tripling of the price or more. A tripling from $80/barrel takes the price up to $240/barrel which gives $10/gal minimum. People in North America will not be able to pay the price, so the rationing will begin. Cleaning carpets will likely not get much priority in the system so will have to go without. The guy that is burning 300 gallons per month per truck is going to be out of luck and maybe out of business.
Why take that risk? Propane will not be rationed. Electricity will not be rationed. Lots of coal and natural gas still in the ground to power that. A business that uses electricity instead of gasoline will cope with whats coming just fine. Probably will thrive because your competitor that burns the gas will be out of business and you get his customers.
Mean while you run your van on electric too. The new electric van from Ford goes about 100 miles on a charge and only costs 2 cents per mile to operate on electric. Schedule your appointments by area in a city and that will work fine.Growth is finished. Companies that thrive in the future are the ones that learn to do more with less, not those that just pass costs on to the customer.
With the Peak oil and the Peak Food situations that are now here, your customer is doing good if they even think about cleaning the carpets with all the prolems they are going to be facing in the years ahead. Don't make their decision to call you a hard one.
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John L
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Posted: 23/September/2011 at 9:04pm |
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There is a Chinese Rest. i do every 3 Months and the carpet is black in the T-areas, the edges are a bright red. With my TM and lava heat it takes me 4hrs to clean 1800sft. This is thick grease, nastiest of nasties. Didnt have my camera but will next time. With my Recoil with 3-3 stage 116765-13s and no heat using the same presprays it takes me 8 frikin hrs. I'm making money faster with the TM. TM'ers always make money faster than any porty users! That gives me 4hrs of free time to pick up more work which i do alot or just do whatever you want. Your looking at it 1 way Ken (gas). I'm looking @ it many ways.. Saves time, more freedom, more jobs you can do, saves on chemicals, saves on labor if your bizzy! saves your body from wearing out faster... etc etc etc.............You do spend a little more on fuel but like i said i dont pay for fuel when going to clean, you could spend that on your babe in one night what a TM will use in a week of cleaning. Hope you sell a truckload of them titans but I'll keep my TM and Recoil till there is no gas left.. hahaha!
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 23/September/2011 at 1:20pm |
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It's getting them. Personally I would rather use a Titan because of the greater power and $1000 lower price to buy. But for someone that was willing to modify it for more power and mostly leave it in their van, this has good potential and would last almost forever. Very low cost per use. Put it in a Electric van and the cost is even lower.
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Posted: 23/September/2011 at 1:09pm |
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I just think it would be more versatile with wheels on it
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Ken Harris
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Posted: 20/September/2011 at 9:26pm |
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The average slidein is using close to 1 gallon /hour in gas. The Direct Drive units are consuming close to 1.5 gallons/hr. I don't know why you are getting such good fuel milage.
 My point is when gas gets much more expensive the customers will not be able to pay the fuel charges. The cost of energy will force all their costs up including fuel to get to work and fooleaning will not be a high priority against that.
Those cleaners that cant run a tight ship and get by on less will either get no work or the very least alot less of it compared to those that equip themselves to reduce their costs. Expect to see this happening before this year is done.
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John L
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Posted: 20/September/2011 at 7:54pm |
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Your screwed either way...
 Even with a TM. |
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John L
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Posted: 20/September/2011 at 7:50pm |
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Less than .5/gal hr. usage on that TM @ $10/gal you eatup $5/hr on the TM. Yea, that could add up. But if you price your services to cover all, ....ALL fuel cost it won't put a dent in your bottom line.. Dig what I'm sayin? What I'm sayin is............ Customers PAY for the FUEL! I never pay for fuel.  Never have, never will. Thats how i operate. Others i dont know. |
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Posted: 19/September/2011 at 11:35pm |
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Posted: 19/September/2011 at 10:05pm |
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What if you have to park far for 220 hook up
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Posted: 19/September/2011 at 9:43pm |
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With gas heading for $10/gallon, I don't think so John.
An entry level GAS Driven TM is soon going to be a quick trip to the poor house!LOL
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