I just got back from Connections last week and IMO the future is Electric. As in Electric TMs.

 

Mytee has just brought out their version of an ETM for $3999.00US

 

No word yet what they will sell for in Canada yet, but KK should be able to get them for anybody in Canada interested in one. Just 2 cord operation.

 

 Here is a picture:

 

 

 

 

 

I would recomend using the unit with a 3HT Propane heating system.

 

 

Electric heat is really not going to cut it.

 

I would also say it is good only to 150 ft as delivered. That is good for nearly all residential applications. Mytee is developing legs that allow it to be taken in buildings as well.

 

I am developing an upgrade kit that will let the US guys bump the vacs up to 6 from the stock 2 vacs. When that is done the vac system will be good for more than 200 ft out from the machine.

 

The Canadian upgrade Kit will allow the addition of 2 more vac motors which will allow 200 ft cleaning from the machine, just like the Titan will do now.

 

So this machine has more potential than it seems.

But hey, someone will bite and spend over 4k for it. 150ft with soak and

wet carpets especially the thick stuff.

 

             

By time you add all that up .... heat, booster etc your

better off getting an entry level TM that will blow the

crap out of any............ANY Porty!

 

An entry level GAS Driven TM is soon going to be a quick trip to the poor house!LOL

 

Less than .5/gal hr. usage on that TM @ $10/gal you eatup $5/hr on the TM. Yea,

that could add up. But if you price your services to cover all, ....ALL fuel cost

it won't put a dent in your bottom line.. Dig what I'm sayin?

What I'm sayin is............ Customers PAY for the FUEL! I never pay for fuel.

Never have, never will.  Thats how i operate. Others i dont know.

 

 

Your screwed either way... Even with a TM.

 

The average slidein is using close to 1 gallon /hour in gas. The Direct Drive units are consuming close to 1.5 gallons/hr. I don't know why you are getting such good fuel milage.

 

 

 

My point is when gas gets much more expensive the customers will not be able to pay the fuel charges. The cost of energy will force all their costs up including fuel to get to work and fooleaning will not be a high priority against that.

 

Those cleaners that cant run a tight ship and get by on less will either get no work or the very least alot less of it compared to those that equip themselves to reduce their costs. Expect to see this happening before this year is done.

 

There is a Chinese Rest. i do every 3 Months and the carpet is black in the T-areas, the edges are a bright red. With my TM and lava heat it takes me 4hrs to clean 1800sft. This is thick grease, nastiest of nasties. Didnt have my camera but will next time. With my Recoil with 3-3 stage 116765-13s and no heat using the same presprays it takes me 8 frikin hrs. I'm making money faster with the TM. TM'ers always make money faster than any porty users! That gives me 4hrs of free time to pick up more work which i do alot or just do whatever you want. Your looking at it 1 way Ken (gas). I'm looking @ it many ways.. Saves time, more freedom, more jobs you can do, saves on chemicals, saves on labor if your bizzy!  saves your body from wearing out faster... etc etc etc.............You do spend a little more on fuel but like i said i dont pay for fuel when going to clean, you could spend that on your babe in one night what a TM will use in a week of cleaning.

Hope you sell a truckload of them titans but I'll keep my TM and Recoil till there is no gas left.. hahaha! jus'sayin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is coming as soon as next year. The oil supply has peaked out at 87 million barrels per day. The trouble is next year the demand is going up to 90 million barrels per day. A 4% difference between supply and demand causes a tripling of the price or more. A tripling from $80/barrel takes the price up to $240/barrel which gives $10/gal minimum. People in North America will not be able to pay the price, so the rationing will begin. Cleaning carpets will likely not get much priority in the system so will have to go without. The guy that is burning 300 gallons per month per truck is going to be out of luck and maybe out of business.

 

Why take that risk? Propane will not be rationed. Electricity will not be rationed. Lots of coal and natural gas still in the ground to power that. A business that uses electricity instead of gasoline will cope with whats coming just fine. Probably will thrive because your competitor that burns the gas will be out of business and you get his customers.

 

 

Mean while you run your van on electric too. The new electric van from Ford goes about 100 miles on a charge and only costs 2 cents per mile to operate on electric. Schedule your appointments by area in a city and that will work fine.Growth is finished. Companies that thrive in the future are the ones that learn to do more with less, not those that just pass costs on to the customer.

 

With the Peak oil and the Peak Food situations that are now here, your customer is doing good if they even think about cleaning the carpets with all the prolems they are going to be facing in the years ahead. Don't make their decision to call you a hard one.

 

There is a chance that the big shortage of oil can be delayed a year or 2. If the second stage of the Depression we are in goes down faster than it did in 2008 there is the chance that enough oil consumption can be removed from the system before the really big squeeze(90 million barrels/day) arrives. Only postponed, China and India consumption will still keep rising. But if the Financial markets melt down rapidly enough they will take oil down too. Then oil will drop below $50 again and gas back to $2.00/gal or less breifly. But it wont last long before supply issues drive it right back up regardless of the Depression here.The USA is burning about 18 million barrels of oil per day currently. The most that could fall to is about 16 mb/d without severe shortages. That 2 million b/d difference would be consumed by China alone in a year. After that the price will rise to at least $300/barrel before leveling off.

Sure on the heat part but not on the vac part.

I have a timbucktoo 2-3stage

A Recoil 3-3 stage

A NSS 4-2 stage.

They bow down to my TM.. So will yours.. LOL!

Just name the place and time and bring $1000 for the winner..

 

 

All of your portables would bow down to the Titan X5 too.

 

 Not a one of them would even come close to it.

 

Larry Cobb sells 4M blowered TMs. That go to 17"HG.

 

 He says that the Titan is almost as strong on 25 ft of hose as a 4M Blowered unit feels with 100 ft of hose on.

That is a good comparisan in my book because most gas powered TMs must be used with that much hose.

 

 But the Titan can be taken into the house and run on 25 ft of hose if you wanted to. But even if left in the van and run on the same 100 ft, if the vacuum power was only 75% of the gas model that would still give you exordinary cleaning results.

a train load of em.

Hows it compare to the 6.6? Your Titan.

 

If that is not enough there is always the X5-XT model.

 

It runs at 16.5HG with 230 cfm capability and is about 75% stronger than the 6.6

 

But that last model runs on 3 cords. Not everyone wants to do that.

with a Kohler 26Hp 47 Roots. @ 3400rpms I will implode your teeny

weeny porty waste tank with yours running full blast. If your on my truck all day you will be slacking when you get home, tired, real tired, it will wear you out the power in my TM. One word lethargic!        

No glides, very tired you will be, dont matter your age. I have worn out

big 200lb men when they stay with me all day.        

You have a very gross imagination. Like you come out of a Comic Book.   

If you have any experience in Engines and Blowers you would know your

teeny weeny cant perform...............LOL    

Ken knows the truth. Even though Kens Titan is powerful it just dont have the massive power my TM has. I don't sell portys so no need to exaggerate.

Say what you will, what you want. You might find a few milquetoast on other

forums that will believe your BS, and it seems your a sycophant to Mi-tee!

Dont know why but the truth really hits you hard in the midsection.

You can Retribute now! Go ahead, I could use another laugh..   

             

 

You changed the subject. My MidsizeTM vs your M5, Entry level is 16-20hp.

You dont know your Engines. You dont know how to clean carpets.

Just mentioning wand got you in a frenzy. I can use my 360i, RX20 or Hoss

if that makes you feel better. Want to see pics? I got'em do you?

 

It same ol' same ol BS he said on TMF.

Thanks Ken........................

 

 

A friend of mine in Town has a M5, He has 2 migit mities. When i see him i will

take pics so you don't think I'm BSing you.

Whatsmore, I'm thinking about all the TMers in the World reading this and outright

laughing @ your conclusion.  Laughing is good for your health.

Take care Buddy..  

avoiding the whole point. Which is my TM will eatup you teeny weeny toy! You don't

even have heat...    hahahaha! Let alone, High heat.

I admit your TM is more powerful than mine. See, it takes a Man to admit he has

been beat. Deep down you really know my Kohler Aegis 26hp with a Roots 47 will

suck the dirt out of your wastetank 200ft away with yours on and cave it in fast!  hahaha!

Anyways Alex its time to admit your M5 is just a porty with porty power nothing

more or less. Heck, My 3x3 stage Recoil will keep up with yours. You know it will.

I see your bragging on TMF about it also. Do you have a supine obedience to Mitie? Did John put you up to this?  And maybe you'll get something on the downlow?

jus'sayin!

 

 

 

 

But if you connected 2 of those machines together the resulting power would not be that much lower than a 36 blowered machine.

 

That is in fact what you get with a 4 Vac Titan X5-XT portable.

 

However that is not the best set-up for Canadian operators. The Titan machine can be made to run 4 vac motors on 2 - 15 amp cords plus a 500 psi pump.

 

How?

 

By using high performance 2 stage motors that draw less than 6 amps per motor.

 

2 of them will operate on a line at 11 amps draw. A pump adds another 3 amps and brings the draw up to 14 amps. The other line only uses 11 amps.

 

The model is called a Titan X5-V2

 

It has lift of 170"WL and 170 cfm

 

It is the most powerful 2 cord machine sold into Canada currently. Way stronger than an M5.

 

Sure.

 

The Mytee 1003DX is the model that draws 20 amps per cord. That is because it has a 1000 Watt heater on each cord.

 

The Mytee 1005DX and M5 have no heater and so can be operated on most 15 amp circuits. It is close. Each of their 3 stage vacs draws 12 amps while in use. The pump adds another 3 amps on one line to bring 1 cord up to 15 amp draw. That one should plug into a circuit with nothing else on it to avoid problems. The other cord only has a 12 amp draw.

 

It looks exactly the same as the standard Titan X5. What we do is substitute the LMB2A vacs (#1 and #2 vacs) for high Airwatt 2 stage vacs as are used for #3 & #4 vacs on that machine. That allows each cord to work on 15 amp breakers instead of 20 amp.

 

 

It is listed under options now.

 

The Mytee machines have 1100 airwatts of power from 2 motors

 

The Titan X5-V2 has 1600 airwatts of power(45% more)

The Titan X5 has 1975 airwatts of power(80% more)

The Titan X5-XT has 2200 airwatts of power(100% more)

 

If it was my choice I would pick the regular Titan X5 to get the more powerful machine for use in Canada. It costs the same as the lower opowered X5-V2 so why not?