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trole4us
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My local carwash.... i wash the car every day + dumping + shiny truck! all for $5.
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Alexarz
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Another major advantage of a portable and why we are now using them on 90% of our jobs. We use rotary machines so we have to dump water at least 2 times on each job. If using our truckmounts, we dump it on the lawn. No lint at all comes out since it is all filtered before going to the waste tank. With the portables, it is not an issue at all. High powered portables; green in more ways than one!
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supernatural
Newbie Joined: 15/April/2009 Location: Fallbrook Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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As we all know, portables have 'pros and cons,' and one of them is having to dump in the clients house. As for dumping on the lawn, you had better get permission first as the average client thinks that you are killing their grass (and you might be).
Also, people who use portables all the time are perceived as not as professional as those with truck mounted units. I'm not saying that they aren't as pro. I'm just saying that the general public doesn't think so. Dumping legally is an issue, but a small one. |
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If I can't get it clean then you had better replace it.
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supernatural
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Around here, in S. California, we are allowed to dump on people's property with their permission. I have put my water into the car wash recycling area, but I'm sure the owner of the car wash wouldn't like it if he caught me. I usually put it down the sewer cleanout (the one that goes to be processed into 'grey' water for golf courses, not the one that goes into the stream/river/ocean)....and there hasn't been a problem, although officially I'm supposed to write a letter and get permission each time I do it. That's not gonna happen.
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If I can't get it clean then you had better replace it.
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Alexarz
Groupie Joined: 11/September/2010 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 85 |
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Supernatural, nobody can pull that truckmount card on me because I have a ProChem Everest 650hp. We only had one customer mention the use of a portable since we began using them about 5 or 6 months ago and he shut up in a hurry once he saw how clean the carpets were coming. Not many customers know the difference between a tm and portable but they can tell an excellent carpet cleaning from a mediocre one. Our booster M5 with RV360i does an excellent job.
I've said it before and will say it again; I would put a boosted M5 or equally powered portable/RV360i up against ANY truckmount/ wand combination and blow its doors off.
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duckcountry
Master Carpet Cleaner Joined: 29/October/2005 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
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The only ones I ran into with a problem of dumping porty water in their toilets were the ones with septic tanks that were already at a max level.
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Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity?
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Rob M
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get caught illegal dumping, your looking at a ministry of the evironment fine. Those START at $10000. Company I work for had a sanitary sewer line installed in the garage. Cost $3000. We only dump at the shop. RV dump sites and city waste disposal sites are also legal
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John L
Carpet Cleaning Guru Joined: 29/November/2004 Location: I'm Right Here! Status: Offline Points: 4013 |
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Lets do some flood extraction with your maggot5 @ 200ft with your unit at the top
of the stairs and the hoses going down the stairs and back up to another room. You don't have a chance against a TM. That's where BIG lift comes in. The water goes down the stairs now has to come up the stairs into your wastetank. Goodluck.
Try it. I have.
Another thing you can try is run 200ft with wand and drop a dime, penny, nickel and quarter on the carpet, now see which one you can suck up with the wand and recover to your wastetank. NONE will probably be the answer.
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carpetologist
The Great Hardini Hocus Pocus Joined: 20/January/2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1712 |
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All to do about dumping...
Why not do the right thing and purchase a proper sump pump and pump it where it is legal. I guess I already know the answer. $$$$$ Everyone will do it illegally until a gun is pointed at your head. Here is an idea... be the first to own one in your area and market it as such and watch your volume climb. Plus, you sleep nights knowing you are doing the proper thing and play it up. |
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Businessmen who don't understand a business is expected to possess a sharp sense of social responsibility will always see profit as the only thing an operation is expected to provide. The business models that can't see the big picture are a subject of concern in today's Business 101 college classes. In other words, these businesses are old school, not suitable in today's society. While I am sure this comment will get the dander up of a few businesses not willing to evolve, I really don't care.
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It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk.
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carpetologist
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Waste Tank Discharge from Carpet Cleaning Equipment
Under the Clean Water Act, you cannot dump your waste-water directly into surface water - such as retention ponds, lakes, rivers, ponds etc. It is illegal to dump your clean or dirty solution down a storm sewer, into a stream or onto a street, or driveway. Even if your customer permits you to dump on his/her yard it's unwise. If the groundwater runs off to wetlands or streams of if the property is as close as 75 feet to a well, storm sewer, dam or any other source that leads to a stream, Additionally, if the soil is waterlogged, rocky or often flooded, it is usually not legal. In many areas, you cannot dump into a septic tank system unless it is large enough to handle the load. Moreover, special permission, license and even fees are required in some communities. In a few communities, you may dump ONLY in a designated hazardous waste disposal plant. Recovered waste-water may only be dumped into a sanitary sewer line which discharges into a publicly owned waste-water treatment plant. Bear in mind that usually this water is no more harmful than the dirty water coming from a consumers dishwasher or laundry machine, which also cannot, obviously, be dumped into a storm sewer or into the street! If you do not have a sanitary sewer where you can dump at home or at your place of business, we suggest you make arrangements with a car wash or an RV dumpsite. Just be certain to get WRITTEN permission and always strain out solid matter using a wire mesh when dumping. Keep this written permission in your truck in case someone, such as the police, question whether you have permission. If you don't have the written permission with you, you might get arrested! Many cleaners get in trouble with the law every year. They are fined severely and sometimes even jailed for dumping waste-water into streams, ponds, or into the street. Not only can the company be fined, but the individual technician doing the illegal dumping can also be fined! Waste-water cannot be emptied into storm drains because most drains empty into surface waters. This is true not just for professional carpet cleaners but is also true of professionals doing such things as pressure washing vehicles and buildings! |
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The following is legal and is the alternative answer to the cops taking you off the road and the judge putting you in jail
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Every state has different regulations regarding dumping TM waste water. Bettor check your states rules before you get fined.
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