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Topic: PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
Posted By: Anthony
Subject: PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 12:04am

 I am a young entrepenuer looking for a business idea. Carpet cleaning is on the list as "very high level of interest" A few questions please:

Is franchising a good idea? Chemdry,heavens best ect...

What is the best way to get started?Is it a good idea to work for someone else to get a better idea of the business?

Does anyone have any stories of "just starting out"

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 7:59am
There are many threads on this subjest.Guitar

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Just My opinion


Posted By: cleencarpet
Date Posted: 19/March/2005 at 3:41pm
i sub for a company and do very well.
i dont have to advertise or sell any sevices.
just pick up my list in the morning do it and go home.
i do stuff on the side all the time just by word of mouth.
i guess i like the fact that i am guranteed that i have work all the time.
buisness by your self you might have to wory about slow periods and not
getting enough work.
but this is just my opinion i know there are alot of people that would
never sub in a million years. they love doing it on there own and they do
great. good clients good money.
basically i guess you have to just try it out and see what works for you
and how much effort you want to put into your self.
hope this helped a little

Chris


Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 06/June/2005 at 1:39am

Rotovac is the way to go my friend.  Check out my websites that are under construction and see how you can set your self apart from the old school steam wand.  Being better than everyone else pays big bucks.



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 19/June/2005 at 7:44pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 19/June/2005 at 9:42pm

                Forget about the people in this forum to give 2 sh*ts about the topics we post.  This forum really does suck for the most part, but there are a few of us that take this serious.  Anyway your question was about franchising and stories about starting out.  Well starting out is tuff stuff and a franchise is only a good idea if you don't pay to much.  My advice is find something that makes you stand out from the rest of these fat clowns and go with it.  There is a good amount of money cleaning carpets, but the trick is finding the ability to string job after job so you can pay your bills.

We spend a lot of money for all types of advertising and stay real busy, but it comes with a high cost.  You have to find away to stay profitable, and give A+ service.  The hardest thing is to get the jobs, not cleaning the carpet.  You also need to make sure you do a kick ass job so you will have repeat business and referrals.

To answer your question bluntly, you need to have balls to be a business owner and nothing comes easy.  But one thing that is true, working as hard as you can to achieve your goals is the best strategy.  Good luck my friend! "Don't make excuses, make it happen"



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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 19/June/2005 at 10:24pm
I just requested info on the Rotovac. It looks pretty interesting. Ever since doing basic bonnet with ChemDry then moving on to use the RX-20 with ChemDry products, I've become a real believer in rotary extraction. My concern is the maintenance on some of these machines. The RX-20 is a greatly versatile machine, but its versatility is expensive: the heads cost a lot of money, and there are so many pieces(!) to these machines that need regular replacing . . . it's pretty expensive when all this is taken into account. Additionally, if it's used for extraction, bonnet, and tile, there's a lot of wear and tear. So I wonder . . . how is the Rotovac in this respect? Lately, I've been looking at the DriMaster Rotary. I've only heard good things so far . . . but then, I haven't checked these boards yet . . . . 


Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 2:27am

I've been running my RX for three years (I got it used) for bonneting,extracting,and hard floors.

I've replaced nothing

 

no need to replace the shoes nowadays with glides and skids.

Cleaners complain about the price of these items but they're much cheaper than new shoes and dry carpet faster.

 

no need to go with a limited use plastic drimaster when you can get pretty much the same dry times with a versatile and built like a tank RX-20.

as far as the rotovac.....it cleans well IMO but is just as much work as pushing a wand

as far as franchises,I looked into one,didn't like it.......I went into business for myself to work for myself...........sure it's more work to get the phone to ring at first but at least I don't have to send money to someone and run my business the way they tell me to.

 

as Doug would say

 

it's just my opinion



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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 8:58am

 

The rotovac has very little maintence.  You clean the heads in the sink once a day and that is it.  To be honest check out rotovac.com and look around.  If you call them for more info ask for Steve, he is one of the nicest people I have ever had the pleasure of givining my money to.

Are you from Illinois? If so, the rotovac sucks and I would not recomend it.



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 4:49pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by JaredW JaredW wrote:

Yeah, Illinois rotovacs do suck. I heard that they are more expensive there, the operators can't make them work right, they skip around on comercial glue down, among many other things. Plus, what good ever comes from Illinois?


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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 10:15pm

What do you have against Illinois?  Chicago, Jordan, Cubs, Sox, Deep-dish pizza, Da Bears, Ditka, Mayor Daily, President Lincoln, Northwestern, The Atomic bomb, Al Capone, The Simpsons real home state, heart-land beef(the best steaks in the world).....I could go on for ever. 

Chicago Illinois happens to be one of the nicest cities in the world.  The nighlife, history, arts, entertainment, cleanliness, and overall quality of mid-western people make Chi-town a very interesting and wonderful place to live.  Plus, the outlying suburbs, know as Chicagoland, is rich suburb after rich suburb.  The economy is thriving, our crime is very low, and people here are down to earth. That is a lot more to say about other places of this country.  I lived on the east coast, west coast, and Arizona and I can honestly say that Illinois is a great place to live.

There are to many people on this forum that just talk sh*t instead of post stupid remarks to each other.  I only wrote that the rotovac sucks if you live in Illinois because I don't need any competition. 

 



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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 10:22pm

Originally posted by JaredW JaredW wrote:

Yeah, Illinois rotovacs do suck. I heard that they are more expensive there, the operators can't make them work right, they skip around on comercial glue down, among many other things. Plus, what good ever comes from Illinois?

 

Jaredw-

Sorry dude but you kind of pissed me off so I have to do this. You are form good old Mont Vernon, NH Population: 2,275. The town of Mont Vernon is located in the hills of south-central New Hampshire, in the New England region of the United States. Established in 1803, the town still maintains a very rural character while offering proximity to the http://town.mont-vernon.nh.us/entertainment.php3 - cultural and http://town.mont-vernon.nh.us/recreation.php3 - recreational activities of the http://town.mont-vernon.nh.us/info.php3 - New England area.

What kind of happening  town is this.  I had 5,000 people in my highschool.  I can only image the nightlife and economy in Mont Vernon.  I am sure there is enough economy to support your business with 2,275 people.  That is a whole lot of carpet that needs cleaning



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 10:25pm

How could the magnificant  mjzivko have any competition. The man on the leading edge of technology? Man of the world?  I read your remark.

There to many people on this form that just talk sh*t instead of posting stupid remarks to each other. I guess you must talking  sh*t then. Would that be a fair statement?



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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

 I am a young entrepenuer looking for a business idea. Carpet cleaning is on the list as "very high level of interest" A few questions please:

Is franchising a good idea? Chemdry,heavens best ect...

What is the best way to get started?Is it a good idea to work for someone else to get a better idea of the business?

Does anyone have any stories of "just starting out"

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

I am a part of other quality forums where sh*t talking is not allowed.  If you read the entire thread you will see that it was going in a good direction until somebody had to step in and talk sh*t.  It is to bad that he had to get called out that he lives in some obscure hick town. 

And for yourself Doug, I have not read one post that you have made that was relevant to the topic at hand.  You usually babble with your boyfriends about nothing. Plus you hide your identity in your profile and talk sh*t.  Anybody with this much time there hands really can't be running a successful business. Look at the times me and my partner Erik06 leave posts.  Usually late at night or early in the morning.  That is because we are out busting our ass 12+ hours a day to provide a good life for our familes.  So basically Doug, get f**ked, this forum can get f**ked and be a man and reveal something about yourself in your profile and stay the hell out of Chi-town!



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 10:48pm

Everybody already knows who I am I hide behind nothing. if it takes you 12 hours a day to make a living than you are in the wrong business.  When you learn how to clean you will cut a few hours a day off your busy schedule.  You have a partener? You must sit on his knee and he shoves his hand up your a$$ to make your lips move.  Can you speak whike he is drinking??



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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:03pm

Who are you and what are you about.  I just don't do carpet cleaning pal. Plus I work 12 hours a day plus because that is who I am and what I am about.  There is nothing wrong with working hard.  Plus if you are a real business owner you should never be off the clock.  That is just the work ethic that I have.  Laziness is for fat slobs.  Phat houses, hot wives, pretty children, and the good things in life are for those who put in the work. Nothing that is worth something comes easy.

 If you have done this in your life, than good for you.  Then you would understand that I am at that point in my life where I am working double time so I won't always have to. There is nothing wrong with somebody busting their ass to obtain their goals.  That is what life is about.  Going after what you desire and taking it.  My partner and I are never satisfied and that fuels us to push and push and push.  We are tuff sons of bitches that back down from a hard long day of work to provide for are families. 



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:05pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:08pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:16pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:17pm

wrote this before reading your new post.



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 20/June/2005 at 11:27pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 12:52am

Doug,

         This is usually where you chime in.  Your slipping man!



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 9:37am
I am not available at this time of night. Earily to bed earily to rise. 

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 8:15pm

That side by side comparison on your website is bias.... Whoever ran the wand probably didnt prespray the same amount as the roto-vac side....

I can take my wand and it will look as good or better than the roto-vac side comparison.........

 



Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 9:06pm

You are right about getting the carpet to look as good as with the wand, but for one major detail.  If you click on the rotovac demo on my page and read the text you will see that this is not a trick.  This is a 2 minute test2 minutes of wand versus 2 minutes of the rotovac.  Both sides a treated the same.

Sure, if you sat there all day with the wand you will get similar results, but with the rotovac you won't have to bust your butt.  I can asure all that the rotovac cleans with less effort than the wand.  I do agree that with a considerable more time spent with the wand you will achive the same results. But time is money and with the rotovac you can achieve a deep clean in less time than with the traditional wand.

Don't beleive me....go to rotovac.com and watch the online video.  There is a lot of marketing stuff to watch first, but then they show this actual test between the two methods.  You should be impressed!



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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 11:15pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 11:15pm
I think you can snag more dumb people with negative and missleading advertising. 

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 11:32pm
I will prespray, agitate, crank up the heat and pressure and be done before you.... with as good or better results... with faster dry times.....


Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 21/June/2005 at 11:34pm
I removed this post as the request of someone on this forum.


Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 10:18am
The wand is great, but the Rotovac is betterin most cases.  I have both tools and use the wand when I can't use the Rotovac(about 5% of the time).  Does anybody else have the Rotovac? Or are these comments based off imagination? I am not attacking anybody about the wand it just happens to be that the Rotovac is awsome. The Rotovac sets me apart from the old school fat belly wand strokers that are in competition with me.  This is just my opinion that I made after putting the Rotovac against the wand in REAL LIFE.  Have some respect for technologic advances in this industry.

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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 10:19am

Originally posted by JaredW JaredW wrote:

No problem.

And Matthew, no need for the "curse words" here, just write your comments and get your point across, no need for the words containing bleeped out letters.

For someone who's mother was an English teacher, a high school guidance counselor and has two masters' degrees, i would think you could use the english language a little more carefully. Didn't you learn anything from cub scouts? We're all trying to enjoy these posts, just have some fun.

P.S.- Sorry for having to include some personal info there, but i had to get you back a little bit for the Mont Vernon comments. Don't worry, i won't post you credit card number(s) or your social security number (unless you want me to?) It's amazing what's on file with the state when you do business with them, isn't it?

Thanks.

Threating stuff that could get people in a lot of trouble. I think this forum should stay away from threating each other.  Witty stabs and sarcastic remarks are fine, but this crosses the line. Identity theft is not something that you should even threaten about.  Lets keep this some what a professinal forum from here on please.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 11:31am
mjzivko:  I may be one of those fat bellied wand strokers you refer to.  But let me enlighten you on something.  Respect is not gained by aquireing a Rotovac. Respect is earned.  Some snot nosed  whet behind the ears punk who thinks the world owes him something has a long way to go earning that.  When you want to act a little more mature I will addrsss you like an adult. But until then Your attitude speaks for you.

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Posted By: mjzivko
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 11:52am

Thanks for the warming remarks Doug.  I must of pushed your button a little bit.  I know I look young but I am not wet behind the ears.  I am 25, married to a hot wife, have 2 gorgeous children, a degree from Univeristy of Illinois, I own my home, and am doing the carpet cleaning biz in conjunciton with my other job.  I really don't need your repsect.  I am a man that takes care of his family and that is a lot to say about anyone in today's world.  My family comes first and that is why I work so hard to provide for them. 

Sorry you are a fat wand stroker and I am a lean in shape hard core mo-fo.  The young lions take over the pride, that how life works.  Maybe one day I will be the fat old guy trying to hang on to my old ways and I'll be threaten by some young studs.

"Life is ours, we live it our way"



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 12:27pm
mjzivko;  You are a man full of yourself.  Like I said before watch you don't fall off that leading edge you talk so much about.  I agree I have seen may more years than you, but as far as old ways You don't know me all that well to make such a statement.  By the way was common sense part of your degree?  With all your education you seem to lack it.  Oh you don't have to feel sorry for me you have anough on your plate. We live in two different worlds. I get that line from everyone from the big city, small town hicks know dic, only people from the city know what's happening.  Enough said. 

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Posted By: JaredW
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 12:47pm
I want it to be made clear that i had no intention of giving personal information out about any individuals on this board. I have removed my posts from this  thread and will not comment anymore here.  Threatening or not, my comments were too open for interpretation and I don't mind moving onto other threads.

Thanks for the great insight and charming conversations.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 3:25pm
Charming?


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 3:55pm
I guess this should be the Rotovac thread.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/June/2005 at 6:23pm
A whole new section for Rotovacs. Sounds good to me


Posted By: hafido
Date Posted: 16/August/2005 at 5:17am

mjzivko

Great posts man. I have not been hanging out on these forum for too long, but I see that alot of CC's here are here to blow off steam and f around more than anything. Anyways, I like you use a rotovac, and I use it on the majority of my jobs. Why? Because fatigue is so much less  for me with the Rotovac. Time efficiency is not so much of an issue, I make enough per job to be satisfied (roughly 65-$90 per hour), but I do not have enough business to fully keep me busy. Just as well though, I am applying to dental school so I need time for my studies. Chi town is the best BTW. I run a portable by the way, how about you? I am in the SF Bay Area, so portables are great when I am up in the City. My minimum to do a job in SF is $125, whether it be a 500 sf studio or larger. Works for me. To the OP, I swear by the Rotovac, I love it. Down side is it can put out too much water and running a portable, you might find yourself refilling more often than with a reg wand.



Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/August/2005 at 6:01am

The famous bucket brigade... fill dump... fill dump... 125 trip charge huh??? So if a prospect called for like 2rms and hall for 80$ you wouldn't do it???? I would... but that's me...

Beautiful City SF... Best of luck on your dental career...You won't have any problems with getting customers when the word gets out your REAL GOOD.....

 



Posted By: hafido
Date Posted: 16/August/2005 at 11:36am

John L, LOL, bucket brigade... your absolutely right. That is the cost I pay for staying with the portable, wish they made higher capacity tanks, but it's automatic to me now, just part of the job. I pretty much have to refill around 2-3 times at the average job. Yes, I will not do a job for $80, unless I am already in the area that day. When I started I used to do apartments for $50 a pop, to get experience... and check this out used a rug doctor I purchased direct from Rug Doctor. True, my stepup is not quite a truckmount now, but can you beleive it, starting w/ a rug doctor, a rug doctor? If that does not take balls to go to a custys house, I do not know what does. Anyways, I live 35 mile from SF, so to make a job worth my while, in the City$125 is the minimum. San jose minimums are $100. I set my pricing, and obviously some custys don't/won't pay for this, But if you are proud of your end result, you charge what you feel you are worth, otherwise, you are stuck in a situation where cutthroat pricing determines your income, don't you think?

Regarding your comment "when word gets out your real good", I assume you are implying that charging high prices will deter dental patients. My friend I work for weekly is an established orthodontist, he lives and practices in Saratoga, and San jose CA. He makes 550-$600k a year with these two practices alone. He did not get this way doing discount orthodontics. While markets determine for a most part what you can charge, you also have a say in it. There are different qualities of service in every profession, including dentistry and CC. Doing above quality work every single time will ensure you can charge what you are worth and differentiaties you from the competition. If you do this two things might happen: you either will sink or swim. why not go for it? I will be honest with you, I am 27, have not been in this biz more than 2.5 years, and probably don't have near the experiece many of you have, but the biz is not difficult, the work even less, an above intelligence monkey could probably do it. But when a customer see value in you service, you get the job.

Grammatical errors abound in this thread of mine, but no time to be proper as I have to take off.




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