Being new here and not knowing most of the people here, I would like to know, what method (s) do you employ in your cleaning?

HWE

Bonnet

VS

OP

Dry chem

or any combo there of.

I'll use what ever works best.......

I like bonnet+steam clean if I'm doing commercial(if realy dirty)

I like steam clean on most residential

I like to dry clean area rugs if the customer doesn't want them to be taken away

I like steam on most furniture unless it is a crush velvet then I'll go dry

nightrider wrote: I think the question here is...........what the heck are you doing to clean carpets, Bonnet is all smoke and mirrors. Whoever tells you that crap works

Bonnet doesn't work...hmmmm thanks for the helpful info Jack

LOL Jack, one of two things is true here, either you are an old geezer to blind to see anything different, of you simply haven't tried a lot of things.

Science and knowledge?  It isn't science or knowledge that turns a blind eye, that can also be ignorance or overconfidence in something someone TOLD you. Proof is in the pudding and I bet we leave LESS in the carpet chem wise than you do, well, less dirt too!

I love the debate of HWE over bonnet, well actually I OP (oscillating Pad) and hopefully will get the chance this year to come to Canada and then we can TEST your theory about cleaning.

I have spent my life (last 30 years anyway) proving guys with that attitude wrong, I come to THEIR place, have them send me to THEIR problem carpets and then have THEM say, OOPS, I guess I was wrong..LOL

Now I have the pleasure of doing this for a living. Just listening to you talk about the stickiness and the chems,  and know that you know VERY little about this method of cleaning.

Where you at in Canada? I want to wager a bet with you!

Many methods will do a great job IF the technician knows what he is doing, HWE while having full reign for many years is NOT the only way to clean nor anywhere near the ONLY way to get a carpet really clean.

But I am always willing to back that up by SHOWING you!

Everyones after Jack Quack from Quebec......

How dare he put down bonnet cleaning...

Like yelling?

Lot a noise, but not much common sense in that rant!

We use a 100% bio-based product that also includes coloidal silver and that kills bacteria better than HWE.

I know MANY like you, usually men a bit insecure about what they are doing.

We have many users that were HWE many that were TM users, that have sold thier tm's and replaced them with OP machines. Some that had been in this industry over 40 years. But I am sure you know more than THEM as well.

Comparing textiles to asphalt also shows a lack of understanding of cleaning.. but to help you, hose off your van and then vac the water off, now run a towel over it, HUMMM  lots of dirt.

I will happily come and you can clean behind me and I clean behind you, and if you think my towel won't be dirty, then you have VERY limited experience in cleaning..LOL

Open your eyes to other alternatives, no you do not have the corner on cleaning and your post shows me you know LESS than you are letting on.

Have a good one!

The fact is my friend, is that I probably forgot more than what you know or will ever know.Hold on , I have to re-read what you wrote, somethings very strange here.da da da da da da da  da  O.K I'm back. Alright PadMan First before you use any scientific words or any extrapolations thereof ,please know how to spell them. COLLOIDAL ( but I'm sure that was just a typo ) Colloidal Silver does  kill bacteria but the product cost would be too great to apply in carpet cleaning solutions, so whoever told you that malarkie took an acient known medical fact and applied that knowledge to todays technology using 1/1000,000 of a fraction and added it to the list of ingredients of a given product ( which is legal ) check the data sheet, I'm sure it's the last item listed, therefore indicating the least thereof. In order for colloidal silver to be effective it must be delivered in a dose of between 10-15 ppm directly into the human digestive tract to have any beneficial effects. The cost of this stuff is perhaps in the 60.00$ to 100.00$ canadian for a 500ml bottle. You would have to use (1) 500 ml bottle to every 10 gallons of hot water to kill any and all bacteria in the carpet plus there would have to be a dwell time of at least an hour to be effective, and besides WHO GIVES A sh*t WHAT BACTERIA LURKS IN THE CARPET OF A CUSTOMERS HOUSE.......THEY SURE DON'T.......YOU MORON..........WANT TO KNOW HOW I KNOW..........'CAUSE BEFORE YOU SHOWED UP THEY HAVEN'T CLEANED THEIR CARPET FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS.....THEY WERE VERY HAPPY LIVING WITH THEIR BACTERIA, DUST MITES, AND CARPET BEETLES BEFORE YOU CAME ALONG WITH YOUR DYNOMITE COLLOIDAL SILVER CARPET REMEDY.........ARE YOU FREAKIN NUTS, YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS...........WE'RE NOT FREAKIN DOCTORS, OR BIO-CHEMISTS, LISTEN TO ME GET THAT STETHOSCOPE OUT OF YOUR ASS, CHANGE YOUR HAT AND PUT ON THE ONE THAT SAYS CARPET CLEANER......Now go clean some carpets, and stop acting stupid.......Have a nice day.

       JACK FROM MONTREAL     AKA NIGHTRIDER

Oh Yeah PadMan I almost forgot. I'm very concerned about you. Yourname is PadMan ( I told you already that my wife used those things ) and then in your last letter posted you keep rambling on about hosing me off, then again all that talk about those dirty RAGS, and TOWELS. Another thing I think I'll pass on the offer of cleaning behind you or you behind me. But thanks anyway.

        Jack from Montreal     aka NIGHTRIDER

I don't blame you for chickening out, if would have been embarrassing for you after all the noise you made over the issue.

Thank you for all the names, and such great understanding that you exhibit, you are really an industry leader and I should truly follow your ways and your footsteps.

Don't be afraid of things you know little or nothing about Jack, learning is OK ,it is actually considered GOOD in some circles.

Just here to help!

Listen PadMad, let me rephrase that ( cause I know you don't listen) As much as you believe in your bonnet cleaning, most others do not, and that is perfectly alright. We don't all drive the same car, or laugh at the same jokes. I will confess and strongly agree that Bonnet Cleaning has its place among one of the methods of getting a carpet clean. I will also admit that it is a very respectfully way of doing so. The only problem with that method is that in order for the carpet to keep it's appearance it must be done every 4-5 weeks depending on the traffic. Let's face it PadMan you have to agree that only the top fibres are getting cleaned, the science behind that is friction, the same friction that makes a train speed along metal tracks or the subway excel through the tunnels. Friction creates static electricity and static attracts all kinds of dust and soil and binds them in suspension with the aid of humidity. Take a rag and rub something long enough and it will get clean and perhaps that is why you have a clean cock.......you rub it too much.........STOP.......You can go blind doing that all the time ha ha ha ha ha

      Jack         N-I-G-H-T-R-I-D-E-R

First off so you understand, I DO NOT BONNET CLEAN. PERIOD.. NEVER.

Now if we have that figured out, then let's move on. If you want to discuss OP or pad cleaning we can do that, and I will show you that cleaning lasts LONGER with OP than with HWE. This isn't a popularity contest, I am not trying to impress you, however, the FACTS will get out and win out over OPINION.

Now, we can discuss this method being you now know I DON"T clean like you THOUGHT I did.

Whew, glad that is over!

I will admit anything concerning the method that is TRUE, but will say NOTHING that is bogus just because it conforms to the BELIEFS of those who haven't used this method.

O.K  PadMan Let's start over and please explain exactly what your cleaning method is. give me a description of your machine, or better still, guide me to a website where i can read for myself what this is all about, who knows i may just buy one and try it out myself. that way i will have first hand knowledge and be able to critique with a full understanding and hands on application. I hunger knowledge , but I conduct my life to the words of Abraham Lincoln.........." I am always willing to learn........but I'm not always willing to be taught ".

             Jack       N-I-G-H-T-R-I-D-E-R

Fair enough Jack, go to ccsop.com

Then we will discuss it.

Mr. Steamer, LOL, it is just taking me a while to get Jack to know Jack about OP!

But we are MAKING progress..LOL

Well Mr. N-I-G-H-T-R-I-D-E-R, I can tell by your posts that you have SOME knowledge.

However your streams of expletives aimed at the Padman who has been my acquaintance for a few years now relegates you to moron.

I own one of the Padman's machines and I have upgraded the motor on it too.

I doubt he will guide you to his website, but I will tell you, it is extremely rare to see one of his machines for sale on Ebay. I also use his chemicals.

As anyone who knows me will tell you, I only use safe chemistry.

I don't think you deserve the right to use his machine and process.

Although John chooses not to be my friend, I still admire him greatly and refuse to listen to him be talked to that way without saying something.

I'M ON MY WAY TO CCSOP.COM...BETTER NOT BE A PORN SITE 'CAUSE IF IT IS IT MIGHT BE A WHILE BEFORE I POST AGAIN AND GIVE YOU sh*t.

    JACK    N-I-G-H-R-I-D-E-R

Sorry If I offended you Adwa, point well taken, but it's not my mouth or tongue that is doing all the typing it's my fingers and sometimes they have a mind of their own. Now Adwa, is that all you have to say, you took the time to tell me to use mouthwash.....no input towards the discussion.......you gonna just sit there and marvel at what others have to say...tell us what you do..are you a carpet cleaner, window washer, janitor or just the bad language police on the KleenKuip web site.

Let's get to Padman.....is your name John....if it is ....welcome John to the NIGHTRIDER'S NIGHTMARE OF CARPET CLEANERS HORROR SHOW, Where every carpet cleaner is another carpet cleaners nightmare.

General Lee wants you to be his friend, he stood up for you in your time of need........please be his friend....I can't stand the drama any longer.  As for you General Lee, I'll get back to you for taking sides against me

You are finally right about something.

You are a nightmare.

As for me wanting John Geurkink to be my friend. We sure aren't enemies. We have had numerous dealings together and if I asked him for a favour, I'm sure he would do it for me, as I have done for him in the past.

Don't feel that way Adwa.

This board's purpose is to ask questions.

No such thing as a dumb question.

No reason to feel intimidated.

Ask away buddy.

Steam steam and more steam.......I don't like steam on commercial carpets and bonnet clean isn't enough so I use both

Steam is king.......soap and water baby

Thanks for letting us know that you are not a carpet cleaner ADWA, we have a spy among us, what exactly is your purpose or judging by your pic your porpose over here. soaking up all our intellegence to do what with.........are you with the IICRC.....go ahead ask all the questions you like everybody here will just tell you to use a bonnet, add more water, maybe a silver carpet remedy, or whatever other fix-r-up contraption......let me tell you now....if you have a stain that come out.....just tell your customer or yourself it's not gonna come out and forget it........for $5.99 Mr' Steamer will teach you how it's done. By the way Mr. Steamer was like you too at the beginning......he wanted to soak up all the good free information here......unfortunately as you can see.......he's dummer than a door knob.

           Jack         NIGHTRIDER  WHERE EVERY CARPET CLEANER IS ANOTHER CARPET CLEANERS NIGHTMARE

thers only 1 MR. STEAMER CARPET CLEANER......

You can look like me, walk talk and act like me,you might just be, the next best thing...BUT NOT QUITE ME

I'm MR. STEAMER...the only MR.STEAMER ...will you other Carpet Cleaners.....just move out of the way..and pack up your stuff...yess pack up your stuff..

The ONE and ONLY

Mr. Steamer Carpet Cleaner

Now Mr. Steamer's a rapper, but as he does in the carpet cleaning business copying others who is smarter and better than him ( and that all of us ) he also copies and imitates well know rappers, I don't know how he spells his name so I will just jot down M&M. Mr Steamer challenged me to a clean off and wants other carpet cleaners to be there as observers, find the post that says something about challenge and if you can be there post a comment......there will be free coffee and donuts, Buffalo wings and fries, soft drinks, and a free prize for all carpet cleaners who show up.

         jack         NIGHTRIDER

Welcome Carl to the KleenKuip web site, did you know that before you can insult anyone here you have to buy something from KleenKuip, or are you just gonna soak up all the free info that is offered here today.

              Jack                NIGHTRIDER

Nightrider...what free info do you give.....?? what info do you give???

You're like a big wind bag...your full of air...you blow so hard...but there's nothing there..

I want som info from Nightrider...one useful piece...about carpet cleaning

GET OUT OF THE CARPET DESTROYING BUSINESS MR.STEAM........THAT'S THE BEST ..FREE ADVICE YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

        jACK         nightrider  WHERE EVERY QUESTION AND REQUEST GETS ANSWERED PROMPTLY AND IS TOTALLY FREE OF CHARGE

Well if you just had paid my mother that child support you owe her...

MAYBE I COULD HAVE BEEN A DOCTOR DAD!!!