Cleaned a 20 year old chair today
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Topic: Cleaned a 20 year old chair today
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Cleaned a 20 year old chair today
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 3:59pm
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Cleaned a 20 year old chair today totally contaminated with nicotine from 20 years of smoking. Product used was the new http://www.kleenkuip.com/images/ecogentDispSystem.pdf - Portable Dispensing System by ECOgent.
This is a new product and will be shown on the 19th of November at Kleen Kuip. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 4:14pm
Ted: I think the nicotine must have been from light cigarets. And personally I would have oped it. And if that didn't work I would have encaped it. And if that didn't work I would have used HIDE and threw it out. Now are we going to be exposed to this kind of expertise on the 19th?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 4:31pm
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Looks great Ted.... maybe you're on the wrong end of the business...lol ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 4:52pm
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I think the same digital camera that was use on the carpet has been used on the chair??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 7:25pm
I don't think so.... Ted has a magic wand is all...  ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 7:27pm
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i would have used a HD degreaser as a pre-spray wait 5min and extract ------------- 
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 7:45pm
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Splash: It has to be enviormently friendly. Not customer friendly. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 9:03pm
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"F" the environment, use what works...HD Butyl Degreaser |
Posted By: Jim Darling
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 9:16pm
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Splash - you may be interested in that fact that butyl (glycol ether monobutyl ether) has been placed on the federal Gov't Schedule 1 list. What this means is that depending on the political will - this material will be illegal in 1 -3 years. better stock up! ------------- Jim Darling |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 10:01pm
| I know this and I'll bet it is still around in 5 years. You want to wager? |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:35pm
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Things like list one chemicals are easy to find..... Most suppliers order a lot because they work so well.... they have skids and skids of the crap just waiting for sale.. you can still buy 3M scotch gard right of the shelf in stores... and how many years has it been since they stopped making it??? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:37pm
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Steamer they never stopped makeing 3m, they just had to change the formula. Before it was an amber colour now it is like milk. ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:40pm
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Scotch gard is non-bio-degradable... and production was stopped... but I guess they started again... you're the supplier.... does everyone agree with Adwas statement... Sears use to sell and promote 3M... now its Ultracare by Dupont Teflon ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:40pm
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Mr. Steamer: The new Scotchgard just dosen't have the punch the old one did. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:44pm
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Go to bed Douggie and stop posting.....How am I ever going to catch up if you keep posting... didn't know 3M had a new gard... thought it was the left overs... I should have used a better example...lol
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:48pm
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Mr Steamer: I am almost done. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:51pm
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Good ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:55pm
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Your right Doug 3m is not the same but they still buy it for the name only. Stainshield Pro is a way better product so the customers say made by Chemspec. ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:56pm
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ADWA: I have been using that I think. So far so good. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/November/2004 at 11:58pm
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I use Sears brand it's only 35 bucks a bottle... a lot less than 85 dollars a bottle... a lot less ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 12:08am
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Mr. Steamer: The SEARS trucks I see have 3M Scotchgard stickers on them??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 12:11am
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Steamer at that price it is probably watered down. RIP OFF!!!! ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 12:12am
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No it's really good.... really good... I won't buy gard any place else ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 12:18am
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You know your stuff so your lucky to get a good deal. If you guarded for the next five days you will have made enough profit to come on the 19th. Don't say no Steamer, say you will think about it. ------------- The Following Statements do not Necessarily Reflect the Views of this Forum Network http://www.kleenkuip.com - http://www.kleenkuip.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 7:12am
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Adwa... Like you said... I'll think about it ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 7:51am
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If yo use Sears guard, one day should pay for your Friday. You make more profit applying water. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 7:50pm
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Actually Doug it's really good...really it is ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/November/2004 at 9:19pm
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Mr. Steamer: Who private labels it for them?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/November/2004 at 11:06am
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Dupont....it's dupont Teflon...my favorite...tastes like sweet milk ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/November/2004 at 11:24am
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Mr. Steamer: Keep drinken. Nothing will stick to you. You will be teflon like SGK? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 15/November/2004 at 5:06pm
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Ted I had a chair like that once, but can't remember if was twenty years of soil, or it took 20 years to clean it!
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Posted By: Mr.Mike
Date Posted: 15/November/2004 at 5:25pm
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Don't be givin' the kids any ideas now Steamer... ------------- I'm positive about the negative...and negative about the positive. |
MR. STEAMER wrote:Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 15/November/2004 at 6:05pm
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Ladies & Gentlemen, 3M Scotchguard is a very serious branded name that clarifies what you are saying instantly. Who has never heard of Scotchguard or Coca-Cola? It is the king and is the best in my opinion. It is the yard stick that all protectors are compared to. When you mention Teflon to me I think of a frying pan. Now any time I hear cleaners speak of guard (Fibre Guard, Fiber Shield, etc...) they always end the sentence with Scotchguard because the potential customer will always comprehend that kind of terminology. Someone once told me never attempt to knock-off a 3M product because by the time you do they are out with one better. How could anyone have the resources to outsmart 3M? Maybe Dupont but then it could be Dupont who makes it for 3M anyways as large companies do trade-offs. Talk Scotchguard, Spray Scotchguard and profit from Scotchguard. Now from an environmental point of view can you actually trust what they say? Listen to Jim Darling. Today you need third-party verification. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 15/November/2004 at 7:53pm
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Just call it Scotchgard and apply Teflon nobody knows the difference!
------------- DON ELDRED YOU CAN "STAND" ON OUR REPUTATION |
Posted By: HooBoy
Date Posted: 16/November/2004 at 3:54pm
| How do you guys feel about Telflon or Scothguard when used after encapsulation? Does the EM make the guard less effective, or does it enhance it? Anybody have any REAL-WORLD experience with this? (Because I've got my own opinion.) |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/November/2004 at 4:14pm
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HooBoy: I personally don't know how it could be effective if the encap already releases from the fiber. Secondly if it is 3M Scotchgard and Teflon it may react than a no name scotchguard? Maybe Lee can better answer this one as he would be speaking from experience. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 16/November/2004 at 8:58pm
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Why would you want to apply a protection after encapsulation cleaning? Encapsulation is an interium maintenance system, most contain some teflon or similar polymer that resists resoiling, anything else is duplication. Encapsulation is an excellant maintenance system, much better than bonnet systems, but it is not a stand alone cleaning system as some would have you believe. Save your protection application for after you use HWE in your commercial accounts. ------------- DON ELDRED YOU CAN "STAND" ON OUR REPUTATION |