safe chems for portables
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Topic: safe chems for portables
Posted By: kevinj61
Subject: safe chems for portables
Date Posted: 05/August/2010 at 4:24pm
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Lets say your cleaning a carpet that is not really that dirty at all and you see no need to pre spray and agitate--are there any good cleaning chems that would be safe to run thru your porty and just do it that way--add in possibly using the rotovac 360 which i guess would give you some agatation.
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 05/August/2010 at 10:23pm
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I would recommend using Rotovac's chemical for that. I believe it's called RPM3 these days.
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Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 7:54am
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Go Green Chemspecs DFC 105 ------------- DON ELDRED YOU CAN "STAND" ON OUR REPUTATION |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 9:17am
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Tide is very safe, smells nice, cleans well , low suds , cheap , a little goes a long way. Try it.....you'll like it.
Nightrider
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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 10:09am
Less problems with the pump that way.  ------------- Inventor of Teflon Carpet Wand Glides.Free Glides for all Cleaners in June! |
nightrider wrote:Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 10:37am
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I had to leave something for you to post Kenny lol
Nightrider
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Posted By: kevinj61
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 11:32am
| how about if I use all temp "ALL" or maybe arm & hammer its on sale now at my local wal mart |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 12:54pm
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You have to try it kevinj61, as long as it's liquid. I like Tide with Fabreeze
Nightrider
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/August/2010 at 9:36pm
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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 10/August/2010 at 3:42pm
| I use HD DFC for prespray but no longer use 105 in the rinse. It eventually clogs the intake filter in the reservoir. I just use an acidic rinse now. Keeps the machine clean. I would rather prespray then rinse with fresh water than skip the prespray and use a rinse solution like you propose. |
Posted By: kevinj61
Date Posted: 10/August/2010 at 6:24pm
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i do not mean skipping pre spray and just using a rinse in my porty--got to be a good quality "cleaner" that is safe to run thru machine other than just a plain old rinse solution i've been in a few homes that are like spotless, carpets not dirty at all ( guess some people are just real anal) i would pre spray only for show more or less not giving more than a few miniutes of dwel then use a rines in machine to follow up. if carpet not dirty why waste time with pre spray, agitate and dwell time--why not use just use a good cleaner (not a rinse) in porty using the rotovac 360--so back to my original question of are there any "CLEANERS" that are safe to run thru machine ( I know you can't use a pre spray in machine) |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 10/August/2010 at 7:55pm
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Look for a low pH emulsifier so to keep the fibers near neutral when your done.
Ck JonDon and some of the other suppliers.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 11/August/2010 at 10:16am
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"....................and some of the other suppliers:
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The ATTACK! is the absolute best.
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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 11/August/2010 at 12:15pm
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Business must be slow............ ------------- Inventor of Teflon Carpet Wand Glides.Free Glides for all Cleaners in June! |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 11/August/2010 at 4:30pm
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Ken;
Thanks for asking. Don't know why we can't seem to answer questions when someone asks on these boards without criticism. Hope that wasn't your intention because you have more class than that.
Businesses all over this land has obviously been affected by the World Economies; however, with the exception of a few slack periods, we have actually been very fortunate in many many ways. So far, so good and we are having an exceptional summer thus far.
But who knows what the future has in store for all of us. Hopefully ALL the small businesses world-wide will flurish because they are actually the most important for everyone.
The very best to you and the family;
Ed Valentine
Hope you are doing well too!
The very best;
Ed Valentine
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Posted By: grimel
Date Posted: 11/August/2010 at 7:38pm
How about pre-spraying with Procyon Plus and rinsing with straight water? Neutral pH and works on moderately dirty carpet. ------------- When all else fails, read the directions |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 12/August/2010 at 12:05am
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Water alone does not restore the pH. That is the job of a chemical rinse. If you want a green solution try the Axiom line of products in the states. In regards to why you take the steps, the IICRC provides an industry accepted guideline: 1. Dry Soil Removal (vacuum) 2. Soil Suspension aka CHAT (chemical, heat, agitation, dwell time) 3. Soil Extraction (this is were the pH is returned to 7.0 in the fibers) 4. Grooming (restoring pile) 5. Drying (maximum time is 24 hours) Brake any of those rules and God help you in a lawsuit should the customer wish to take you to court over whatever he wants to blame you for regarding you and his carpet. Any IICRC instructor worth his or her weight in gold will tell you that. Cardinal rule - don't bend or brake the rules. Rotovac are mechanical engineers, not chemists. Don't ask them how to properly clean carpet. The power wands they make are great in my opinion, but they are part of what makes up your cleaning arsenal and not the be all to end all. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: kevinj61
Date Posted: 05/September/2010 at 10:43am
| screw the IICRC, who do they think they are anyway, i find most customers never even heard of them, they just want their carpets cleaned--and yes i am aware of "CHAT" and its a good BASIC philosophy to follow, all i'm saying is don't be so afraid to think outside the "box" If you follow all the rules and a customer sues you do you really think the IICRC will step in and help you? will they represent you in court for free? will they pay up for you if you loose? I think not--lets face it we all do things a little different, nobody does everything exactly like you do or i do- and don't take this the wrong way, i'm sure your a very good cleaner with many happy customers-it's not my intention to knock anybody here, so i am sorry if i offended you or anybody else here |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 05/September/2010 at 8:58pm
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IICRC S100 establishes minimum standards for professional on-location cleaning of installed textile floor coverings. If the customer's attorney presents an expert witness who is IICRC certified and can quote the standard you my friend lose in court. It's not what you client knows, it is what case law his own lawyer knows that will hang you. But, if you want to do less than an adequate job, go for it. The lawyer will add on his percentage to any expenses the client is liable for if he loses or you are liable for if you lose. Bottom line, you will be out of a job and if they can find other assets you have, hope to can find another state to move into until the next suit. Unless of course you have an industry accepted manual that says spray, extract, collect. Or maybe extract then collect proving you went out of your way to spray which is an option only. Would you like to live in a home where the contractor made up his own codes as he went along and nothing was inspected? The exact same principle applies here. So far, the government accepts self regulating by the industry but if that doesn't work, you can see where it leads to out of the necessity of protecting the consumer. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: kevinj61
Date Posted: 05/September/2010 at 11:41pm
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like i said screw the IICRC I let my IICRC certified firm status
expire because I don't believe it does anything for me these days, as
far as getting, or keeping business. if you tell a customer your IICRC certified you get a blank stare they never heard of them and don't seem to care, don't need them to start your business, get business, or keep business cleaning carpets is not rocket science and with all the info on the net these days and all the different forums such as this one, which are all free, and lets not forget about interlink supply, adco, or any of the supply places whom are all very willing to help out newbies or anyone for that matter for free as well, one can get answers to any questions they can dream of and practice on their own home carpets and those of friends and family before even going and and doing a real paying customer |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/September/2010 at 12:47am
HUH! SS is IICRC cert. and they sure dont prespray first or vacuum. Makes ya wonder.
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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 06/September/2010 at 6:37pm
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If a carpet cleaning issue does go to court its the IICRC S100 that the judge will recognize as the Standard of Care for the industry.
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Posted By: westcovina
Date Posted: 16/January/2011 at 3:42pm
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Make sure you run some clean water through it when your done.
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