Heat vs. No Heat
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Topic: Heat vs. No Heat
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Heat vs. No Heat
Date Posted: 09/March/2004 at 5:54pm
We would love to hear from both carpet and upholstery cleaners as to the preference of heat or no heat. Or should I say high heat or extreme heat.
It's interesting that most portable machines we sell to our customers opt out of inline heaters. Although once they have tried heat they wonder why they have not had it for years.
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 10/March/2004 at 12:15am
Love heat
extreme heat isn't needed all that badly IMHO.But great for gum ,wax,and caked on grease.
I like it but I've always been able to do a good job with around 195 at the mount.
I just add to the T.A.C.T. pie,in other words use extra agitation and dwell time to make up for less heat
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 13/March/2004 at 2:52pm
That is a very good question, High Heat vs Extreme High Heat, I've been pondering that question for many years. As a matter of fact, every morning when I wake and have my morning first cup of Java ( coffee ) that very question come to mind, and I am reminded of it with every sip. As all carpet cleaners should know, this question is very complex and we, as certified cleaning technicians from IICRC are all aware that when liquids evaporate they become gases, and these gases formed are called vapours. The vapour pressure of a liquid increases as the temperature increases and the dependance of vapour pressure on temperature follows the Clausius-Clapeyron equation ............in P2 = AH ( 1 - 1 )
P1 = R ( T1 - T2 ) This relationship assumes that an ideal gas forms as the liquid evaporates, but yields good results with many substances. I'm sure we all remember that water is a very usuful liquid. At freezing water is less dense than liquid water thus ICE FLOATS. Also water has a High Heat capacity, therefore pouring boiling water on someones hands has severe consequences, but by comparison, when metallic leads is heated to melting, the molten lead can ( under controlled circumstances ) be poured on someones hands without causing burning. We all can agree that water is POLAR, and as a result it is a very good solvent plus water forms hydrogen bonds and enhances the effectiveness as a solvent
YES, I would have to say extreme heat, if not for anything else, it keeps you warm on those cold winter jobs, and when hot vapour shoots out of those little jets at the tip of the wand the customer is happy like a pig in sh*t thinking you're actually destroying all those little critters in her carpet. And for my next trick, mam, I'm going to Scotchgard your carpet with super teflon, anti soiling, flame retarding, urine resistant, bullet-proof, watered down, super diluted to nothing, carpet protector. And this will only cost you 10 cents a square foot extra because I'm a professional certified IICRC member, complete with a card and everything, see I'll show you. ooops......forgot to renew.
Jack From Montreal aka NIGHTRIDER
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Posted By: EmpireMike
Date Posted: 04/May/2006 at 5:00pm
heat never hurts
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Posted By: Steamy
Date Posted: 14/August/2006 at 4:19pm
Say it is 3:00am and I'm cleaning the nasty carpet at the Chinese Buffet place at about 240-250F. I put the wand to that really greasy area in front of the kitchen/beverage area and pull the trigger. Guess what happens to the grease area? . I love doing that to dirt!
Matt
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Posted By: jtuseo
Date Posted: 10/September/2006 at 9:48pm
you know it. f**k all them
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Posted By: bojedis
Date Posted: 13/November/2006 at 10:21am
I like nightrider's post, Ya'll should read some of mine on the ripoff report. com Just type in carpet cleaning on the search It will say Roger, Houston, tx. GARBAGE GAURD ANYONE?
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/December/2006 at 5:43pm
Heat's like a good woman.. gotta have it.. especially if she's in Heat..
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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 10:42pm
Always SMOKEM if you gottom!!!
240 deg. at machine! 250 deg. if there
really dirty!
AL
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 12:16am
You're gonna hurt yourself with all that heat
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 3:44am
Hot ! Hot ! Hot !
Smoken!
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 2:27pm
250 degrees atm 130 at the carpet?
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 11:47pm
Wrong Jackson!
241.5 deg. at carpet!
You can't even touch my
hose without a glove!
SMOKEN!
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 8:48am
Impossible!
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 9:50am
Yup. Maybe 220
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 10:03am
I had a proprane heater on one of my units. It would scream at the machine, but I doubt if it ever got over 220 at the carpet!
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 10:36am
Actually probably 220 ATW but 200 or less by the time it hits the carpet.
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 10:40am
Yup!
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 1:33pm
Must be hard getting the van into the livingroom?
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 2:05pm
Apparently not!
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 2:37pm
Take out the picture window, put in a garage door. Problem solved
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:16pm
Cleaning with a 15' hose must be a pain?
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:19pm
Not if you park in the room
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:23pm
Hope the house has wide door ways?
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:26pm
Wheel chair I mean truckmount accessible.
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:57pm
That's what the garage door is for
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 6:10pm
This house has no garage?
------------- Just My opinion
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 6:46pm
SGG likes no heat cause he don't have any.
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 7:06pm
That's what the barrel is for.
------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 11:06pm
Burning the paneling out of the trailer
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The STD Meter
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Posted By: flood-man
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 6:15pm
hotter the better
------------- flood man rocks
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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 11/October/2007 at 5:24pm
nightrider wrote:
That is a very good question, High Heat vs Extreme High Heat, I've been pondering that question for many years. As a matter of fact, every morning when I wake and have my morning first cup of Java ( coffee ) that very question come to mind, and I am reminded of it with every sip. As all carpet cleaners should know, this question is very complex and we, as certified cleaning technicians from IICRC are all aware that when liquids evaporate they become gases, and these gases formed are called vapours. The vapour pressure of a liquid increases as the temperature increases and the dependance of vapour pressure on temperature follows the Clausius-Clapeyron equation ............in P2 = AH ( 1 - 1 )
P1 = R ( T1 - T2 ) This relationship assumes that an ideal gas forms as the liquid evaporates, but yields good results with many substances. I'm sure we all remember that water is a very usuful liquid. At freezing water is less dense than liquid water thus ICE FLOATS. Also water has a High Heat capacity, therefore pouring boiling water on someones hands has severe consequences, but by comparison, when metallic leads is heated to melting, the molten lead can ( under controlled circumstances ) be poured on someones hands without causing burning. We all can agree that water is POLAR, and as a result it is a very good solvent plus water forms hydrogen bonds and enhances the effectiveness as a solvent
YES, I would have to say extreme heat, if not for anything else, it keeps you warm on those cold winter jobs, and when hot vapour shoots out of those little jets at the tip of the wand the customer is happy like a pig in sh*t thinking you're actually destroying all those little critters in her carpet. And for my next trick, mam, I'm going to Scotchgard your carpet with super teflon, anti soiling, flame retarding, urine resistant, bullet-proof, watered down, super diluted to nothing, carpet protector. And this will only cost you 10 cents a square foot extra because I'm a professional certified IICRC member, complete with a card and everything, see I'll show you. ooops......forgot to renew.
Jack From Montreal aka NIGHTRIDER | TO MUCH READING FOR ME HOMIE
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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:02pm
I CANT PACK ''HEAT'' TO MY JOBS CAUSE IN A FELON
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Posted By: alanAustin
Date Posted: 14/December/2009 at 1:54pm
Gotta have HEAT!!!!
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Posted By: GeorgeWalker
Date Posted: 02/June/2010 at 2:39am
Just about everyone has used rubber bands, but few people have taken the time to observe the less
obvious properties of these everyday objects. In this activity you will examine the thermal properties of
rubber, that is, the behavior of rubber as it relates to heat, a form of energy.
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Posted By: annfully
Date Posted: 20/February/2016 at 7:05pm
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