General Lee doesn't buy a Sears Washer & Dryer.....he buys a Whirlpool, the same company that makes the Sears model with all the same operational parts but charge $ 300.00 more for the nametag Whirlpool

 

No Lee .....Chocolate Milk does not come from Brown Cows

 

Lee only buys Green Giant Corn because they are called Nibblets.....the No Name corn comes from some Hack Farmer out in the bush somewhere ( little secret.....it's the same farmers field, except it's his midget brother that picks that corn to lower the price )

 

General Lee only buys Intel computer parts.....because it's faster than the others.....how faster you ask, well let's see 1,000,000,000 of a nano second seems about right, how many things can you do in a nano second

 

Did you know that if you cook meat in a pressure cooker, all meat is equal in tenderness and taste, I say this Lee in case you think one super-markets meat is better than the other.

 

Milk is something like chemicals, 3.25%...2%...1%...Skim Milk..........just add more water, charge afew pennies less and there you go..........a different product ( Chemical companies don't do that .....do they General Lee )

 

Anyway, I can't think of any more right now, maybe some of you out there can keep this going..........How about you General Lee , do you know any

 

                                                  Nightrider

When I was young and naive I used it for a long time.

I happen to know the reasons why not to use it.

So if you are so poor that you need to save $30.00 a week by using Tide go ahead.

But to try personaaly attack me for warning people to use properly formualted chemistry well it shows where you come from .

 

 

It is not a saving of 30.00/week ( more like 150.00/week average ) all depends how much carpet you clean, in my case I have daily touch ups every night on all my contracts.....for me it adds up alot, I have a Zellers store where we clean that dam carpet in sections every single night in different departments, just Zellers saves me at least 200.00/week

 

                                                     Nightrider

 

 

 

 

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BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT PISSES ME OFF THE MOST.

YOU COME ON A BULLETIN BOARD OF A DEAR FRIEND OF MINE. THE PURPOSE OF THE BULLETIN BOARD IS TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESS.

 

 

                                                Nightrider

 

Yes this is Ted's forum and yes he does sell chemicals, but he has allowed us to speak freely...and if he wanted Jacks crap to come down he would have pulled it himself.

 

 

Ted has a lot of inexpensive chemicals in his store...if there is a demand for it....maybe he should sell  laundry detergent too..LOL

 

honestly most of the people who claim to know what they are doing have no idea...it's not only about chemicals....  you have to know what kind of material your working with... you have to know about all your equipment...

 

WHAT PISSES ME OFF ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WILLING TO OPEN THEIR MINDS TO OTHER POSSIBILITIES.

 

trust me if you know what you are doing you can almost use any soap with the right dilution even palmolive...LOL

 

have we ever talked about the cleaning power of just plain water??

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does anyone think we can actually clean a carpet by rubbing rocks on it.....ummmm

 

                                                  Nightrider

 

you know one thing and one thing only.... what is written on the side of the carpet chemical you are using.

 

you have no clue as to the make up or formulation of the solution... you just use it blindly like the sheep you are..

 

Have you ever been to a chemical lab and had the solution you are using broken down???

 

I doubt it...

 

I have! and a lot of the products out there are just regular laundry detergents.....with a higher percentage of chemical concentration based on what they want to get cleaned...bases on the amout of sud...based on smell even..

 

if you can't clean with something as basic as laundry detergent...then you shouldn't be cleaning at all

 

there are alot of carpet cleaning chemicals which can cause way more damage than basic laundry detergent...

 

soap is only one part of the equation... you have to first know HOW TO CLEAN!

 

There is Very little to NO RESIDUE if you pre-spray and rinse properly...No more or no less than a chemspec...or prochem

 

 

if you get call backs using tide...you'll get call backs using anything...fabric is fabric

 

 

 

 

 

Well, better than getting pissed on..!

 

Anyways Mr. STeamer you said that very well..

 

You are intelligent enough to use little enough soap and enough water flow to rinse it.

I am the guy who has to go in and inspect the carpet when a claim has been made to the manufacturer and then fail it for maintenance related issues.

One of the primary problems is cleaners cleaning with their own concoctions and throwing the kitchen sink at it.

The worst cases usually involve apartment corridors that have a ton of air pollution brought in by their air handling systems. A properly formulated CRI SOA aprroved chemical that has been tested and  been proven not to cause colour loss or discolouration is not going to cause such problems. But we see this all the time, why?

In my experience the worst carpets to deal with for this problem are from Ege in Finland. So there are many other factors to consider when using cleaning solutions. If you do screw up a carpet like this usually your insurance does not cover such a loss.

And the guys who screwed up the carpets?? They aren't out bragging about it!

so grumpy most of the time?

 

Take 5000 IU of Vitamen D/ day.....1500 mg vitamen C,/day  1000 IU Vitamen E /day

                                                    Nightrider

nightrider how about that vaccine shot?

 

                                                    Nightrider

We are in the "people pleasing business" not the carpet cleaning business. Please your customers, get the money and run.

I guess for someone that know's nothing about this business, it is amazing that we are about to enter our 40th year in this business.  I guess it just proves any dummy can be an expert in this business.  RIGHT STEAMER!!!!!!!!!

 

I would too but it ain't happening.. Mass vac is already in place and started..

They are injecting H1N1 in many of the schools just saw it on the V, short for (tv)

 

 

                                                 Nightrider

 

Have you ever taken it to a lab and had it broken down???

 

Have you ever compared it to a laundry detergent???

 

Listen "CLEANEX"  acchhooo(excuse me)  .. Open your eyes and don't go around bragging about how long you've cleaned in the dark...not really knowing what's in that bottle.

 

40 years of darkness is nothing to brag about....and yes any dummy can be in business for 40 years.... That is RIGHT CLEANEX!!!!!!!

 

"I will not get into a debate with an unarmed man"

 

"bullsh*t baffles brains"

 

Yes I know what is in the chemicals I use. I did work in that field for a bit.  I said go ahead and use what ever you want to clean with, I just said I don't want to "period."

 

The regular grandulated powder of chemspec or prochem or most carpet cleaning cleaners is not much different from your everyday laundry detergent...FACT

 

do you need to use the laundry detergent NO! if your trying to save a few bucks there are a lot of chemical companies that make carpet cleaning solutions very cheap..

 

here in the GTA you have the guy that sells the cimex, which sells his stuff..7-15 bucks a bottle ...or you can go to cr**t labs...cheap cheap cheap

 

no real need to use laundry detergent...but it can be used...that is my point

 

But I liked that you called me Steamer rather than Earl...

 

when you use my name that really pisses me off

 

                                               Nightrider

 

Maybe this is where some of the bailout money went..

 

For this year’s flu season, five biopharmaceutical companies have been awarded massive contracts by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) for development and production of more than 195 million doses of swine flu vaccine, in addition to the seasonal flu vaccine.

The companies -- Novartis, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune, Australian drug maker CSL, and Sanofi-Pasteur -- will likely make a great deal of money.

CSL has contracts to supply $180 million worth of bulk antigen to the U.S.  MedImmune will supply 40 million doses of its live attenuated nasal spray swine flu vaccine for more than $450 million. And Sanofi-Pasteur is providing more than 100 million doses of monovalent swine flu vaccine, a $690 million order.

 

 

 

                                                    Nightrider

 

I no longer clean carpet to know but I do a lot of business with very small mom & pop type cleaners who are thrifty or downright cheap and always reach for the absolute least expensive product on the shelf.

 

When I get the opportunity to introduce a better more premium product to them and they sample it I notice the same thrifty, cheap guy now passing up the $10 per gallon and reaching for the $35 per gallon product. This is not the guy who would every buy a $35 gallon of anything but he does and the proof is in the pudding. Something different is taking place with him and his customers.

 

Does it clean faster? Yes

Does it brighten the carpet? Yes

Does it leave a fresh smell? Yes

Is it a more concentrated product and not watered down? Yes

Does it offer encapsulation and keep the carpet cleaner longer? Yes

Is it making him more money? Yes

 

If you must leave a residue behind make sure it is one that helps and not hinders. It's called EnCap or use a DFC product (Detergent Free Chemical) it works well and leaves a pleasant residue behind that is vacuumed dry by your customer at a later date.

 

 

 

To a customer clean is clean, if the carpet comes out cleaner than what it is, they're happy..........they don't give a rats ass for the bull of staying cleaner longer, YES you will catch the odd fish , but what good is having one fish in your frying pan when there is an ocean of cheap fish waiting to be hooked

 

                                                   Nightrider

 

 

 

 

                                                 Nightrider

 

How about the multi-Billion Pharmaceutical industry..........they get away with loads of crap, they must have hundreds of lawyers on retainer.

 

On point Ted.....Layers jobs are not there to insure you are making a good product or not, when a new product is put onto the market it is not run by the layers for approval .Lawyers are on retainer in case of a lawsuit.....THATS IT . They may help with a discloser issue.

 

                                                    Nightrider

 

trust me when I say that DFC is loaded with bacteria ...and them saying that it's a product made with approved FDA ingredients is just BULL...

 

the food and drug association does not approve individual food chemicals for use...

 

all a marketing ploy...

 

I had posted about a bottle of DFC going bad a few years ago...I sent a sample to the lab that my father uses...this thing has a high bacteria culture count...

 

I call it liquid bateria

 

but it's chemspec....a well trusted company...LOL

 

don't worry the hot water  kills most of it...but it's there