How Long Should a Truckmount last?
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Topic: How Long Should a Truckmount last?
Posted By: doug
Subject: How Long Should a Truckmount last?
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 8:06am
Just wondering some units are suppose to be good for ten thousand hours. But usually the water pump needs rebuild, blower amy need something and the list goes on. I know maintainence plays the most important roll in lifespan. Will a CD outlast a Slide in. I guess that would depend on the type of van and so on.  ------------- Just My opinion |
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 12:02pm
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Biggest thing that shortens TM life is vibration, followed by heat in the vehicle. Since a PTO reduces both those things, the PTO usually lasts much longer and holds its value better. Main reason for short motor life is the 2 cyl motors most use. They cannot compete with a water cooled V-8 motor for either reliabity or lifespan. Some of the highend slideins like the Genesis use a 4 cylinder motor that gives you 15,000 hours and that is close to the CD type unit. The longest lived TM on the market is the Vortex unit. With it's Turbodiesel motor it is good for around 50,000 plus hours.Most of us would wear out long before it did.
------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 9:39pm
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Ken: You seem to forget that ProChem and some other use the Nisan motors which have proven themselves. The first one I had was in a Performer 800A back in the late 80s. It has lots of prwer, cery loud and not alot of heat. But it became the foundation for some very impressive machines today. Right after I bought the 800A ProChem came out with the Bearcat which made the 800A worth nothing. There are still many 800's still working today. so I believe a slide in will last as long or longer than cd. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 10:08pm
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I know of many CD's that made it to 15,000 hours Doug, and quite a few nissan or ford 4 cylinders that have done the same, but only the vortex will go longer than that. I took the factory tour out in Salt Lake City. It is made to outlast 3 of the next longest lasting TMs. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 10:32pm
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Superglide Ken wrote:Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 10:45pm
give me a michaels porty 450 psi, for $2700.00 
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/September/2004 at 11:02pm
| oh I forgot about alll the berings that go as well... the fuel pump...etc etc etc yes splash give me a porty anyday |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 12:49am
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For the GTA, you can do most of your jobs with a porty because of the number of highrises. In the West TMs rule. Can't run a good business without one.
Steamer: Where did I talk about cost of operation in my post? I didn't. It is a fact documented by studies on the subject that PTOs have lower operating costs for multi truck chains and franchise operators in total costs. The higher cost of gasoline may change that soon. Slideins are still the best choice for an owner operator that will take care of his units, cause the employees of the bigger chains sure don't. No clear winner on this subject. You just have to look at each situation separatly to see what is best. Like many things in life, there is a lot of gray and not much black and white.
Superglide Ken ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 6:42am
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 6:45am
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 10:14am
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Ken: I have been reading on other boards where people with CD have trannie problems, but I guess you are only considering the actual unit operation costs not the complete van. What about a major problem like a van out of production. With a slide in the costs to change to another van is pennies compared to a cd. Lets face with a cd the van is useless. with a slide in you can have it in several vans during it's life time with very few modifications. Using the Vortex as a comparsion to smaller slide ins with 2 cylinder engines is like comparing a Jetta to a Hummer. So lets look at apples to apples. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 10:29am
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Ok Doug. The CD from HM has had problems . Not a good comparisan. Much better to compare the Cleanco to a slidein if you want an apple to apple comparisan. $2000 spent on repair for operation in 8 years of cleaning and still going strong. If you know of a low cost slidein that can do the same, I would like to know about it. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 10:47am
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Ken: In 8 years you spent no money on the drive train of the van it is installed in? Motor, trannie, etc. Because with a cd it is a complete unit. With the slide in the van operateing costs are not what I call considered the same. Because a slide in is a slide in a cd becomes part of. You are bunching all slide in tm's into one big basket except for the Vortex. Yet can only find one cd that works. what about all the rest of them. I think you are reaching for something that is not there. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 11:09am
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Not really Doug. The Butler has the same kind of record. I replaced a Transmission in mine during that 8 years. Cost $1000 for that. But because it is a 92 van and was 4 years old when the unit was installed, that is normal. The chevs average a tranny every 8 years wether a PTO is in them or not. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 12:02pm
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Ken: I am still not convinced that it is cheaper to run a 350 chevy or whatever for less than a 2 or 4 cylinder unit on a slide in . Those are also costs weather they are repairs or not. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 3:35pm
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well I know why SG your truck lasted so long... you don't do much work... my cleano works 6 days a week on average 36 jobs a week... trust me it breaks down... over the last year I've dropped 12 grand into the truck including 2 trannies... with my slide in... in the last year I've spent $0.00 only oil changes same amount of daily work...
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 7:03pm
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Mr. Steamer: I think you need another slide in. That cd doesn't make the balance sheet look to impressive. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 10:49pm
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Ken: Mr. Steamer needs that tm that dosen't require maintenance and dosen't breakdown that you have. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/September/2004 at 11:23pm
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I have one...my prochem legend... I would want anything else..except a 405 but thats another story... doug when your going to sell give me a call...seriously |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 2:33pm
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Steamer: You are right about the working hours on my unit. 10 hours per week average for the last 3 years. They do last a long time when used like that. No doubt. Any decent unit would. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 5:58pm
| mine will run an average of 6.5 hours a day...everyday |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 8:10pm
------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 9:37pm
| sold sold sold... when your looking to upgrade doug...I'm looking for a 405..keep me in mind anyways...... I wanna get in a rip out it's guts, and replace everything with black steam pipe...oooooooo baby tickles my heart just thinking about it |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 11:32pm
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I know what you mean Mr Steamer. Until 5 years ago when I changed my full time job over to manufacturing and sales from carpet cleaning; I used to put in 2000 hrs per year on the TM myself over about 300 working days per year. Works out to the same 6.5 hours per day you run now.
Superglide Ken ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 22/September/2004 at 1:41pm
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damn SG you where sure pushing wand.... I get burnt out every now and then... I think of just getting two guys to run the trucks... but know one works like me. I will not loose my own customers of some other guys buck ups |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/September/2004 at 4:03pm
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You need guys you can trust for sure. I couldn't stop the CC myself until I hired my nephews to do the work. Then i sold them 51% of it so that they would keep doing it right without me needing to babysit them. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |