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Topic: Adwa
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: Adwa
Date Posted: 26/August/2004 at 7:09pm

Adwa

You took the day off and did not think about us once. At least one post to let us know how you are enjoying your new bite.



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 28/August/2004 at 12:24am

Bite me Ted.

I thought about all of you. I have been reading the posts late at night or very early in the morning and it still amazes me how taking or not taking an IICRC course can cause so much controversy.

We all know that there is no better experience then working at your job first hand for the best experience. However having the advantage of the education of that particular job can make your understanding just a little bit easier.

You all should take pride in bettering yourself with the best tools that are offered in your profession without feeling that the education you are learning owes you something.

That may or may not be directed to the good men of the forum. Hopefully you can figure it not to be you.

 



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Posted By: Joel
Date Posted: 28/August/2004 at 12:49am

ADWA???

That surely isn't your real name.

Why don't you use your real name so we know you aren't full of hooey.

Joel



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 3:08am

I'm tired of hearing Adwa talk about bettering yourself with the first two IICRC cources... it's non-sense.... yes it gives a little insight ... the whole course has to be re-done for people to really learn... it should be longer.. with actual work in the field...

more like an apprenticeship program...it's not a marketing course it's learning about different textiles and how to clean them..it should take longer than two days.. more like plumbers or electricans..months and years

that piece of crap we all hang on our walls is bull ka ka.. it's nothing more than read and remember... any one can be a grand master and never pick up a wand or hand tool for life...

my wife took the class to... she's never cleaned a carpet in her life.. but she sure knows how to highlight and remember..

IS THIS TRUE OR NOT....just post weather you agree or disagree with my statement in red...

anyone with a little time... a few thousand ..a highlighter... and some memory...BAM POOF POW GRANDMASTER



Posted By: mrclean_47
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 11:41am

 I would have to agree with  Mr Steamer,there are hundreds of professional cleaners in every city but there are only a handfull of us who know what they are doing.

I took all the courses years ago and in most cased I knew more than the instructors just from being on the job site every day.

today I often hear cleaners quoteing word for word the text of courses or repeating nonsence that they would pick up from internet chat rooms that some of us know is planted by people to misinform the public/new cleaners

trade courses are necessary to help educate but should not be considered the gospel to be repeated and relied on. we also need to hve and use a working knowledge of the business in which we are involved

 



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 12:19pm
mrclean47: Wow:   We are not worthy, we are not worthy.  Another cleaners who professes to know everything.  Knowing how to do everything is one thing but knowing why is another thing. When a person can know longer learn I am not sure if they are a bigger threat to them selves or the people they are working for.  As for quoting word for word.  I find it more creditable to quote from a manual than try and bull s**t the customer.  After all there are some people out other than cleaners with as much or more knowledge than most cleaners.  I have found myself in some great debates that I needed  more than just my word to backup my statements.  Think about it. Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 1:21pm

doug your off topic you have not answered my question... you've gone all arounfd it though...

do you agree with my statement yes or no??



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 2:39pm
Mr. Steamer:  I believe and always a good listener and test taker would have no problem passing a multiple choice test. But lets not undermine the whole certification process.  I have written a 32 page paragraph answered exam in which you were give 6 to 8 hrs. to write not quite sure on the time as it took most all day. Unfortunately they have made the tests easier today than 10 to 15 years ago  and still some people have trouble.  Then there was no open book then. Mr. Steamer is that what you wanted to hear?Guitar

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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by mrclean_47 mrclean_47 wrote:

 ... or repeating nonsence that they would pick up from internet chat rooms that some of us know is planted by people to misinform the public/new cleaners

 



Wow! Conspiracy UNMASKED!


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 8:49pm
Allen:  I guess if that is all some have to offer I guess we should humor them and read it because some of it you cannot repond to,Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/August/2004 at 11:15pm

man a simple yes or no... are you guys so brain washed that you can't answer a simple question

lets gets to the point gentle men...yes or no



Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 1:14am
Doug:
I've had it up to (reaching for a point waaaay above my head) HERE!  It's funny.. it's sad... and it's a little frightening at the same time.


Mr. Steamer:
You have my answer to your crossposted topic in the 'ask doug' line.  Leave ADWA out of it.  It's ME who's been talking up the courses.

-Allen


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:01am
Originally posted by Adwa Adwa wrote:

Bite me Ted.

I thought about all of you. I have been reading the posts late at night or very early in the morning and it still amazes me how taking or not taking an IICRC course can cause so much controversy.

We all know that there is no better experience then working at your job first hand for the best experience. However having the advantage of the education of that particular job can make your understanding just a little bit easier.

You all should take pride in bettering yourself with the best tools that are offered in your profession without feeling that the education you are learning owes you something.

That may or may not be directed to the good men of the forum. Hopefully you can figure it not to be you.

 

Allen read this post..... there you go.. plus you won't answer the question.  Not to flame you But as an English Major, you'd figure you would be able to read my broken english and give me a straight answer in english...

but it seems that you're on a walk about

g'day mate



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:05am
THE ANSWER IS NO NO NO NO What kind of certification is this, when its all theory, and the practical side is not counted on the exam, because there is no practical side..  Is that clear enough for you


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:07am

This is the certification you all brag and feel proud of... give me a break.

This is one certification that is just a piece of paper.. and it's that simple



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:16am

This is a topic that should be left untouched.. banned from this forum, This is a topic that gets rid of members...because I won't give up..and allen has already had it up to here.

If you love and believe in IICRC Certification thats great... but don't come in here preaching and acting all Holy because you've taken a few classes, and telling us how good it is... because I'll telll you how bad it actually is

Allen I cleaned MILLIONS and MILLIONS more Customers and Carpet than you have don't try and boggie woggie me because I'm the King of Rock and Roll..

basically in a nut shell... keep how good it is to yourself, and I'll keep how bad it is to myself

 

Mr. Steamer "KING" Cleaner



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:21am

 

proceed with CAUTION



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 7:40am
Mr. Steamer:  As usual you are the only one that can have an opinion right or wrong.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 8:13am
what ever doug.... I guess I'm not allowed to have a opinion either... this is something I feel strong about... but I guess I should shut up


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 8:41am
Mr. Steamer:  If you are that strongly against certification and try and deter new people from attending a seminar to attempt to better themselves I think there is a problem.  I guess we will always differ on this topic.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 4:33pm

YOU STILL REFUSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DOUG ... YOU KNOW BEING CERTIFIED ISN'T BEING ALL YOU CAN BE... IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THE BEST IN THE FIELD... THE PROCESS IS FLAWED

JUST DAMN ADMIT IT AND I'LL SHUT UP



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 4:41pm

Yes it will give you theoretical experience, yes it will better you..I never said it wouldn't. ALL I DID SAY was"you never have to clean or restore or color repair or odor remove or commercial carpet anything.  You just have to know about from the handbook they give you..

No other Certification or trade works this way.... If practical work is not involved in the exam, thats bull kaka.

lets put this to rest because you IICRC BASTARDS can't admit when your flawed and wrong



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 8:32pm
Mr. Steamer:  You are a man outstanding in your field.  Unfortunately it does not need any manure because you have spread enough bulls**t around to last a long time.Guitar

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Posted By: Suction
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 10:29pm

Doug I checked it out for myself, and I'm truthfully sorry he's right.  I didn't believe it at first, so I had to call.  They said it would be too expensive and class sizes are too small.  They did admit that they have looked at a more hands on approach and we will see changes in the years to come, but for now what Steamer says is a reality

sorry doug



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 10:47pm
Suction:  You never asked Steamer why he's certified?  Why is that?Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/August/2004 at 11:32pm

Suction: you never asked Douggie why he's certified? Why is that?

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Just some more Bull



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 6:02am



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 10:02am
Mr. Steamer:  Are you trying as usual to change things around when you find you are not 100% right?  I am the one reccommending certificatation you are the one against.  What do you call a person like who talks out of both sides of their mouth at the same time like you on some occasions?Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 7:45pm

but I am 100% right dougVader...but lets not talk about it anymore, we have father and son things to do...

so how's it going dad???



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:17pm
Mr. Steamer: If it got any better I couldn't stand it.  What a crock of s*it.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:22pm
what IICRC douggie???


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:25pm
Mr. Steamer: I thought quit?  I ment life itself. You seem to have IICRC on the brain. Not me?Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 8:31pm
hey doug you can put your banjo man in as your avatar.... what do you think... it would save you time while posting


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 9:14pm

Regardless of your opinion on what you think the IICRC can do for you, Kleen Kuip is offering a Carpet Cleaning course in October if you are interested.

If you read the application properly you will see an agenda of what the course is offering. There is no on hands training involved and Ted also believes that their should be some for the students to get an idea of the theory they are learning. Ted does bring some equipment and tries to put this in effect if of course time allows.

I do know in the 15 years of Kleen Kuip holding these courses that not once a student has said to me anyways, that they found the course to be of no value to them at all and believe me I do ask.

There is always a sure way of changing anything that you do not approve of and that is to get involved your self to bring about change. If you wish to stay out of the fire and be safe then the best conclusion is to put up or shut up.

 



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 9:22pm
Wow: Iam impressed that sure was a mouthful.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/August/2004 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by Adwa Adwa wrote:

Regardless of your opinion on what you think the IICRC can do for you, Kleen Kuip is offering a Carpet Cleaning course in October if you are interested.

If you read the application properly you will see an agenda of what the course is offering. There is no on hands training involved and Ted also believes that their should be some for the students to get an idea of the theory they are learning. Ted does bring some equipment and tries to put this in effect if of course time allows.

I do know in the 15 years of Kleen Kuip holding these courses that not once a student has said to me anyways, that they found the course to be of no value to them at all and believe me I do ask.

There is always a sure way of changing anything that you do not approve of and that is to get involved your self to bring about change. If you wish to stay out of the fire and be safe then the best conclusion is to put up or shut up.

 

after dropping a few hundred on a book, and some INTRODUCTORY CARPET CLEANING, you try and convince yourself it was worth while....but the blood on your forehead from banging it aginst the wall says other wise.....

Adwa... anytime I'll tear this playhouse down



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 6:53am

Why would you want to tear this play house down Steamer when your having the most fun.

Talking with you sometimes and I'm sure Doug agrees is like banging our heads against the wall. 



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 6:58am
ADWA:  Mr. Steamer will huff and puff and blowwwww your house down??Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 7:06am
I'm comming up with a new Certification process, with Humber College.  I just need one IICRC person who is certified to instruct, and a new dream will be born.  Where letters after your name will actually mean something.. lololol


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 7:19am

That can be you Steamer and let me know when you set it up I will help to promote your class, it's free right.

I remember it was you who said there is a lot of profit in hosting schools. Can't wait for your eye opener.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 7:41am
Adwa: The School will be The Mr. Steamer School of Hard Knocks.  Upon graduation you will get job assistance for a postiion as SEARS.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 11:37am

No Adwa it's not free I plan to get rich quick... I'm NO FOOL miss goodie 2 shoes...  Nothings for nothing  at least anything I do will be better than the IICRC.  thousands of dollars for introductory courses and at the end they give you a piece of paper and a plastic card that makes you an expert.

The new CCCA will mean soo much more, the CCCA will have an apprenticeship program, where you get real world experience.  Extensive textile studies done at the Dupont.  Environmental studies done at ryerson, along with a few sales and market course for added bonus.

the program will probally run a few thousand dollars a course, and take 3 to 6 months.

but our graduates will be well trained, and they will graduate knowing how to clean any carpet and upholstery properly.



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 12:25pm
Mr. Steamer:  I am impressed and good luck. But as you will probably say luck has nothing to do with it.  NOW most cleaners don't want to take a day off and lose money.  Ypu yourself have said certification is nothing.  so now you plan to make rocket scienitests out of carpet cleaner. Than what you will get $69.00 for 2 rooms instead of $59.00? I am not going to say anymore on this, again I wish you all the best.  In time I may be interested, but at my age I am starting to wind down.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 8:52pm
once your a member of the CCCA... you can charge proper rates... why because your more qualified, than joedumbuck


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 9:27pm

I assume CCCA would mean. Canadian Carpet Cleaning Association.

If this is true I also wish you good luck. But I would also have to say take heed of Doug's good advise.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/September/2004 at 10:25pm
ADWA:  Mr. Steamer will be the University Dean of Clean.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 04/September/2004 at 7:14am
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

ADWA:  Mr. Steamer will be the University Dean of Clean.Guitar
here some good advice Adwa... listen and take notes... dougs got it going on


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/September/2004 at 11:02am
ADWA:  You should be enjoying your weekend and not be reading the inquirer,  I mean the board.  Just putting in some time about to head to Grand Bend to strum a few tunes with some friends.  Enjoy the rest of your weekend.Guitar

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 05/September/2004 at 11:11am

You too Doug, so you really play the guitar, that would explain the song lines you come up with that until you say them I had completely forgot them.



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 7:23am
Now Douggie plays guitar
Jamming good with Adwa & Steamer:
The CCer's from Mars

aww... quit jiving me that we're all voodoo... you're the one ' well hung' etc... etc... & so on....


-The thin white Allen




Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 8:59am
Allen:  Mr. Surround Sound!!  Did you buy the Mr. Steamer Franchise gor down under??  I had to check to see who's post this was.  You are starting to show many sides, or with the Franchise personalities.Guitar

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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 9:42am

Allen

Steamer would not like the fact that you included me in the carpet cleaners from mars. I do not clean carpets so I will be the on the Venus Star all by myself listening in.



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 5:01pm
I think Carpet Cleaners From Mars would be a good company name. 

Adwa: Venus is the goddess of love, you won't be alone there.  Anyway,  I just got it that you don't get out there with a wand, can I ask what it is that you do in this industry?  (oh man, I can hear the smart-a** comments already)

Doug: I'm gonna franchise 'Surroundings'  I've got territories opening up all over the planet.

-Allen



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 7:51pm
Allen:  You may suround yourself with yourself.Guitar

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by Adwa Adwa wrote:

Allen

Steamer would not like the fact that you included me in the carpet cleaners from mars. I do not clean carpets so I will be the on the Venus Star all by myself listening in.

nope Hockey mom from mars...is good though....btw what do you do at KK?????? what is your Title Adwa... I'm Mr. Steamer carpet cleaner... and you are???


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 10:11pm

I'm your Saviour Baby.

When I say can I help you I mean it.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 10:24pm
Mr. Steamer: ADWA is the one who has to answer all those  question Guitarabout jack sh** that a the GGRREEAATT carpet magicians it the GTA have.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 6:54am

Boy it's like pulling teeth to get a straight answer around here. let me ask again. ok are you ready?? are you Set???? here goes..

Adwa what do you do at KleenKuip? what is your position??? what is your title????

I was just wondering so I asked.... but you and your little boyfriend can't seem to answer the question...



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 7:42am

Mr. Steamer:  Whats in a title?? Is carpet cleaner some glorified title that no one but you has heard of??Guitar

 



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Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 7:50am
ADWA,

I take it you WORK at KK. That's cool.

Later,

Allen



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 8:07am
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Mr. Steamer:  Whats in a title?? Is carpet cleaner some glorified title that no one but you has heard of??Guitar

 

see doug you can never just answer the question.. if you don't know the answer just say "I dunno"


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 10:46am

Steamer to be honest I don't have a title. We are a family business so we all chip in and do a lot of everything.

You go ahead a pick a title for me that you think suits seeing it was so important for you to let everyone know who I worked for. 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/September/2004 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by Adwa Adwa wrote:

Steamer to be honest I don't have a title. We are a family business so we all chip in and do a lot of everything.

You go ahead a pick a title for me that you think suits seeing it was so important for you to let everyone know who I worked for. 

ok Title... Partner/Owner/Part-Owner... That explains everything..   who will know me you and doug??? we are the only people that come here


Posted By: surroundings
Date Posted: 08/September/2004 at 12:41am
Heck, give ADWA some respect.  She's dealing with the likes of you & me all day, and is still kind enough to join in our childish name-calling sessions and debates.

ADWA: I hereby bestow upon you the title of: Sultanna of All That Shakes, Rattles, & Rolls.  If you have objection to this title, I shall adjust it according to your wish.

By your will,

Allen Surround Sound





Posted By: Suction
Date Posted: 08/September/2004 at 8:20am

I've met Adwa before she's a real nice lady



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 09/September/2004 at 11:04pm

Thanks Allen & Suction

Allen I'll keep that title it sounds about right. I shake, rattle and roll all day long at KK. I am neither a partner or a owner just a dedicated employee that happens to be also related to Ted.

It is a rare thing I believe, to get up and want to go to work each day because your job is that gratifying. I hope that most people find this in their life time whether it is working for someone or for yourself.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/September/2004 at 9:24pm
Wait until Ted asks you to work a few months for free.....lololol


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 5:59pm
where is Adwa... what no time to drop us a line??


Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 6:18pm
I beleive I may have played a part in that Steamer. I've been  posting so many infomercials as of late, the poor woman is spending most of her time reading instead of posting, perhaps?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 6:26pm
it's all about sports for Adwa... shes every guys dream girl


Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/September/2004 at 6:56pm

That will get you points. lol

 

Adwa; do some posting. The guys dont just want to read what I got to say.We need a womans point of view on things too.



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