OP PadMan Challenger for Sale
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Topic: OP PadMan Challenger for Sale
Posted By: carpetologist
Subject: OP PadMan Challenger for Sale
Date Posted: 14/July/2004 at 3:52pm
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OP PadMan Challenger
We have heard alot of talk on this site about the PadMan Process compared to Bonnet Cleaning and Steam Extraction. Anyone who wishes a demo please come by. I am sold on the quality of cleaning this produces and very fast. This unit won't last long. SOLD ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 06/September/2004 at 4:45pm
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Whole lotta shaking going on with that machine, Ted. I tried it at Connections last year, and as you said, it works very well.
Ken ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 06/December/2004 at 6:54pm
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Bargain Basement Challenger Pad System (Like New - pictured above) ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 10/December/2004 at 11:14am
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Seems getting sales on Pad machines in the GTA is about as easy as pulling teeth, Ted. People want to make the money with them, but don't want to pay the price of admission to make that money! They are probably comparing the pad machines to the floor machines at $1000 or less and thinking they are expensive? ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/December/2004 at 5:12pm
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Naw ...it's the color green.... the red ones look much better...lol I think you should discount it....lol ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 10/December/2004 at 7:13pm
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Good point Mr. Steamer; but I am sure that Ted knows that buying a can of red paint is better than taking the price down another $500 because of the green colour. lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/December/2004 at 8:06am
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Well Ted; I think the fact that someone has not snapped up this machine even at the great price of $1500 tells me that there is a need for a much less expensive pad machine out there.The system is a great one that really works as we both know. It seems to point to the need for a less expensive machine to meet that need. You know that I never leave a product need unfulfiled for very long.......................... ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 3:06am
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LOL, the Challenger machine is a fine OP machine Ken, however the price difference not only has to do with construction, ease of use, power and added oscillation, so in effect being it will not last as long, will clean at 1/2 the speed, don't you think the price maybe SHOULD be less than other OP machines. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 10:27am
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1500 and you still have to buy the pads.... another 850 or so...plus chemical..... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 6:55pm
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Steamer, what did you pay for your TM? I will compete head to head ANYTIME, and we will see WHO spent the MOST money and who spent is the most wisely. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Dakota
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 7:03pm
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Padman , Going the cheap route, isn't always better.... ------------- Life is Tuff, It is even Tougher if you're Stupid "John Wayne" |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 9:19pm
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But going the BETTER route ALWAYS is. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 10:32pm
I didn't realize cheapness and quality had anything in common? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 10:54pm
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You learn new things all the time on this Bulletin board , Doug. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 10:54pm
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Ok padman I'll take you up on that.... when your OP burns gas and has a couple of Heat exchangers with a few hundred feet of hose... I look at it this way once you get a truckmount.... all you need is gas and some water... once you get an OP machine you still need pads that cost 1/3rd of the machine itself in this case 1/2.... what about the pre-spray... what about the Vacuum... the attachment are more than the cost of the machine.... oppp I forgot a stair tool... and upholstery kit...oh yeah I need pads for those too... and chemical to do furniture... I still need a van to look professional and carry all this crap around... yo I'm busy and running out of pads.... I need to order more and more.. I forgot to do the laundry... I'll have to do it or I'll run out of pads.. For something that looks so simple it really isn't that cheap ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 10:59pm
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But Mr. Steamer, John could not afford to live in the big house he lives in, and have a BIG pot to piss in if you stopped buying all those pads. lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 11:07pm
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I'm sure John hasn't put his eggs in one basket..... he most likely has other investments..... my point is the OP isn't as cheap to operate as it looks... hench the reason for charging higher prices...
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/December/2004 at 11:38pm
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MR. Steamer, John does have some GOLD COINS stashed away somewhere.................... But like he has said several times before, most of his savings are invested in his Pad Machine/Pad selling/chemical manufacturing business.
Pad cleaning is only an expensive ongoing expense if you over pay for his equipment when you first get into the business, and then over pay for the pads and chemicals once you are in it. I will soon be able to help cleaners on both those scores. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 1:00am
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Equals 38 cents per sq. ft. Infact I miss Diva. I will give a Christmas present to whoever entices her back into the ring. This is a lady who can swim with the sharks. Now there's a challenge for everyone. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
MR. STEAMER wrote:Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 1:44am
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Ted: She is most likely out there making .38/sq ft and is making too much money now since getting her latest machine to spend much time here in this ocean. However, this shark wishes that she would stop by every now and then and let us know what is happening. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 1:49am
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SHARK???
You are a Flounder!
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 2:00am
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If you say so Chuck. What does that make you? Minnow? ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 2:17am
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No 'minnows' in saltwater!
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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 5:18am
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Kenny will HELP you give up your money, not neccessarily DELIVER anything to you for it. FACT. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 16/December/2004 at 2:45pm
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The illustrated Turboteck: Testing procedures ? Shipping plans? Financial base ? Growth plan? Distributer network ? Gorilla marketing proposal ?
------------- Be Juan in a Million - be a Leatherwright. |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 17/December/2004 at 12:05pm
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Somebody needs to get into Teds and buy that Challenger machine, it will be a great way to get started into OP'ing, so get your wallet and go purchase that baby... ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 17/December/2004 at 12:25pm
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I'm waiting for the AssPex! NOT!
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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 18/December/2004 at 7:13pm
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IT is imaginary as most of Kens products are Dennis, unless someone else thought it up for him, he wouldn't have a clue.
He is the master marketer ya know.....LOL ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 18/December/2004 at 8:04pm
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You keep telling yourself that Padman. Right up till April. lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: james cooper
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 12:24pm
| Beware - kens pad machine might just be a sanitary pad on a stick! |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 7:34pm
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Lying punk with no pot to piss in, you can't even AFFORD to cover your PROMISES... you are a perfect example of a pathalogical FOOL. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 7:46pm
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Jokes on you Padman. I am and I can! You have been conned along with many others who react emotionly instead of thinking things thru logically. LOL ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 8:53pm
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No Ken, that don't fly, sure I HOPE you come through with your obigation but LYING to people and to recipients is not a joke, I see through what is going on, the cost got too high and the corner too tight.
I don't care WHAT caused you to CHANGE your mind as long as the people get WHAT YOU SAID THEY WOULD GET... ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 8:55pm
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Show me where I lied Padman, if you can............. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: james cooper
Date Posted: 19/December/2004 at 8:58pm
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Ken WILL NOT come up with a ti wand. He may send something , but it wont be as advertised. Same game he has played since he came on the scene , lots of promises and puffery , but never delivering despite all his bragging and boasting . |
Posted By: kanoboy
Date Posted: 22/December/2004 at 8:27pm
| Ken Harris told me on the blue board that the winners would receive their prize....plain and simple. That was a lie. |
Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 22/December/2004 at 10:02pm
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Many fools convince themselves they are smart, Kenny is such a fool. ------------- Converting HWE customer to VLM customers for 30 Years! |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 23/December/2004 at 12:00pm
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And what is your excuse for delusional thinking? lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 23/December/2004 at 1:48pm
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Ken;
Did you forget that approx. 1 1/2-2 moths ago you stated clearly that Oil was going to be: $100.00 a barrel? It's now at about $44.00) Did you forget that you had stated many, many times that you were introducing your new high-performance portable (the Raptor?) about 2 years ago. Or, did you forget that your Aux. tanks ----(humm, wonder where you got that idea???)--just happened to be exactly the same design as Cross-American's. Or, did you forget where you "learned" (and borrowed) all about the value of CFM's/ Airflow concepts? I think I remember who the Professor was in 1978. There are many more examples however, I do not want to over-tax your memory. But just think about this and be careful about your response. And, BTW, Johnny G (alias: The Padman) has one very important aspect that you have not: HE IS PROVEN WITH HIS GREAT HISTORY AND REPUTATION You, sir, have a long, long way to go. Those are my thoughts. Good Fortune and best wishes to all; Ed Valentine |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/December/2004 at 7:20pm
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I wonder if Ed has a deep voice.... thats the voice I give him when I read his posts ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/December/2004 at 7:26pm
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Maybe you should clear your throat if you are going to read out loud? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/December/2004 at 7:34pm
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doug yours goes up at the end because you always ask a question even if it's not a question ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 03/January/2005 at 11:33am
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If you wanna know what Ed sounds like give him a call,I have and it was a pleasure.It's nice chatting with a guy who REALLY know his stuff when it comes to CC and does not pressure you into buying his product.
besides if you ever want a portable or spot machine he's da man.
I've made space for a Mightey One in my van |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 12:20am
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Ted should paint that darn OP another color.. it would have sold already if it was red or blue ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 1:00am
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$1000 price should do it. 1/2 HP machines are just not worth what the 3/4 to 1 HP machines are worth. They are the new standard in performance. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 1:10am
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Spoken by a true wannabe!
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:02pm
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a 2hp machine would be nicer for commercial??? yes or no ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:07pm
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Moot point since nobody makes them. But a 1 HP machine is capable of doing everything you could want to do. I would say when the commercial machines get to over 17" we will see 1.5 HP machines come out. They will be needed for say a 20" machine. 2 HP machines would just pop breakers all the time. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:09pm
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doesn't it all depend on how it's wound... and if the amps are low ??? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:41pm
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My op machine has a 327 350 horse on it? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:52pm
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lol... doug so how do you like it???? I know you said it works well, have you booked any big jobs for it??? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 2:57pm
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Just one job and I was impressed with the results. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 5:46pm
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Is that Job still clean today???? thats my question ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 7:05pm
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YES! ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 8:31pm
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hmmmm interesting ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 11:07pm
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Why is it interesting? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 7:48am
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doug you neeed to stop posting... in every topic... I'm making a run, but I won't catch you if you keep running away ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 8:09am
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Your doing fine. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 1:45pm
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Only 800 posts to go for you to be in the lead Mr. Steamer. Only promblem is Doug is not co-operating to let you catch up. eh? lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 2:15pm
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Mr.Steamer: He likes a challange. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 3:23pm
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Yep ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 3:37pm
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800 if Steamer keeps up yesterdays tally . 8 days. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 8:50pm
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8 days... hell no... If the spam would quit stopping me...I could do it in a day... I worked all today so I lost one day.... but I will catch you.. ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 10:14pm
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I am not going no where. What is the point of your madness? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 11:42pm
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He wants the title of top poster back again Doug. I am content with spot #3. If I never catch up to you 2 guys it wont bother me a bit. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 11:46pm
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SGK: Is that the top boaster or top poster? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 29/January/2005 at 11:52pm
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Maybe both? ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 1:01pm
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Hard to separate sometimes. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: soonerjoe
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 9:39pm
Did you sell this yet? How much $US?
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 10:04pm
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Sooner: Make an offer! I know that Ted loves US$$$$$, so you are going to get a great deal offering those for payment. Many in the GTA have shut their wallets till April now, except for dryer and flood related equipment which is still going strong. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 10:14pm
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Most wallets in the GTA have LOCK JAW? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 10:40pm
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There are many days that Kleen Kuip can verify that fact. Although January freeze-ups may pull us through this month. I am glad to be back from holidays as I spend like a millionaire. Only difference is he stays longer. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/February/2005 at 11:58am
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Don't you wish you has some of this great American business like John... Canadian carpet cleaners are cheap cheap cheap ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 01/February/2005 at 3:23pm
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You are so right Mr. Steamer. I am selling Titanium wands for only $599 US right now and most Canadian cleaners will not buy them. That works out to only $850 Cdn plus GST delivered to Toronto, without a glide. They were selling in the GTA a year ago for $1600 Cdn. You would think those GTA cleaners would be running to get this deal. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 01/February/2005 at 4:00pm
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I wonder why they aren't?
weather cashfow reputation of seller Still too expensive
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 01/February/2005 at 4:42pm
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Cashflow is the main reason I think Chuck, followed by the weather in the GTA this time of the year. But there is a third reason as well. Most cleaners in the GTA do not have the "quality Mentality" to buy equipment, that while more expensive, makes their job easier and more profitable. Ted has been selling to this market for over 30 years now and can attest to that. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/February/2005 at 10:35pm
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The problem I have is this.... my things don't break... if they break I fix them myself... been using the same wand for the past 8 years...it feels good.... If you can fix it and it's still working you get stuck in a time warp... sometimes money is better spent in other areas... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 02/February/2005 at 12:54am
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" Let's do the time warp again!"
Remember that song Mr. Steamer? lol ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/February/2005 at 1:21pm
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Well I don't know how well this challenger works that Ted has for sale. I know I used my Breeze this weekend on some office carpets and it impressed the hell out of me. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 21/February/2005 at 2:17pm
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What did you use to vac???? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/February/2005 at 2:22pm
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A bissel upright with a hepa. A disposible vac. Nothen fancy. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 21/February/2005 at 6:29pm
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hmmmm ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 30/March/2005 at 7:11pm
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SOLD Well I finally sold my Challenger OP Machine. Or should I say he stole it for $1,500.00 Sold it to a truckmount operator in the Maritimes who was very skeptical as all steam cleaners are. Just talked to him again. He has pad cleaned his downstairs rec room that he claimed was clean. He showed the dirty pad to his wife and she told him to get rid of that smelly fuel burning truckmount. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 30/March/2005 at 9:25pm
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did you paint it??? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 02/April/2005 at 3:37pm
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Let's talk about my OP Challenger sale again. Just heard again from the new proud owner in the Maritimes. He has been cleaning a restaurant in a large chain hotel with a truckmount and could never get more than 15 cents a sq. ft. He performed an OP demo and impressed them so much that he did the job the next night for 44 cents a sq. ft. Even he is having trouble believing it himself. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/April/2005 at 4:35pm
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Tell me? How the hell did someone come up with $0.44 per sq.ft. ------------- Just My opinion |