A Few Questions???
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Topic: A Few Questions???
Posted By: B Rice
Subject: A Few Questions???
Date Posted: 08/February/2008 at 7:11pm
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I've spent a few months reading many topics to try and answer many of my questions...Wich has helped out tremedously. I've been running a carpet cleaning business for about a year. The first couple of months the olnly ads we had were flyers.(didn't really generate many jobs). Finally our phone book ad came out...WOW RIGHT...haha no(our inoivces have a "how did you hear about us" section) not one call from a phone book ad. Never the less I found google adwords and it keeps us A-Float. We have about 8 websites but That Hitman Ad Guy is in this town and has about 10 websites all taking up most of the first 2 pages.(he still dosn't have the top ranking..haha) Anyways, We have a 12x6 trailer and use a mytee with 200psi with a rotovac(wanted a stonger porty but the salesman talked me out of it, wish he didn't) I mostly use Pro Coice(extreme Clean) chems,tried using harvard from a local store didnt seem to work as well. Just like most forums i've read, I think it leaves the carpets to wet! Like most who work of a porty, im saving to get a TM. Its just not in the budget right now. Well there was a little bit about our business her are my questions Do boosters work well? If so How do they work...can i leave my porty in the tailer?
Better chems?
Do glides on a rotovac work well?
Only get 4-5 jobs a week should it be more by now? (we have phonebook ad, online yellow pages, service magic, magic yellow, google adwords, yahoo ads, 8-9 websites, and a many local online ads)
If you really want to , cratique our website http://www.panhandlefloorcare.com - panhandlefloorcare.com ...maybe it could be better???
We appreciate any helpfull info!!
Brad
Panhandle Floor Care
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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 08/February/2008 at 7:51pm
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I know by reading this forum the last couple of months that some coments like "dont quit your day job" will be said but I'm in know hurry. I also know the companies in my area that have 8-9 vans started somewhere! I'm just trying to learn as much as possible to give my clients the best cleaning and keep them for the long hall! ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 09/February/2008 at 5:54pm
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Skip the TM. In a couple of years you will not be able to afford the gas to run it when gas goes to $10/gallon! Get yourself a high power portable machine instead . If you live in the USA, you have the amperage to run the 3 and 4 vacuum machines. If you live in Canada, buy one of the 2 -3 stage Ninjas that Kleen Kuip sells. The USA and Canada are going into a Depression later this year, and you need to keep your overhead down and operating expenses low if you want to be one of those that gets through it. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 09/February/2008 at 10:49pm
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Brad, get the vac booster and a voltage converter so you can use the house current in the laundry room. 100' 2" hose. Work with the rotovac some more until you get your speed/water formula worked out. That hitman guy has fake sites in florida or at least he started with them. I did my research and then turned him over to the IICRC for using their logo on non-certified firm sites. You aren't loosing out to him. Try some door hangers in neighborhoods that look like the ones you have been selling in. That target marketing should beef up the results some. And don't forget your customers are worth milking for repeat business and referrals. Stay in contact with a monthly newsletter, postcards, holiday cards and annual phone calls. Include a featured story in your newsletters spotlighting a different customer each time (with permission of course). You are building a business which includes an inventory of customers. It takes time. Sounds like you are doing the right things. If you want a big company with bigger risks and headaches, hire some experts at driving business your way. ------------- Are you in a high paying business or are you just a self employed low paid grunt who thinks this business provides dignity? |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 10/February/2008 at 11:51am
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Thanks for the advice!!!!...Ken waht about glides on a Rotovac? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 3:05am
They are good for making a Rotovac machine go faster and most say they leave the carpet dryer as well. Since they only cost $20 to buy, they are a good investment. Buy a set. If you dont think it was money well spent after 30 days of trying them, return them and I will refund your money. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
B Rice wrote:Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 4:41am
The advantage of the Rotovac is agitation. Don't use glides.
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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 3:48pm
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Does anyone recomend a spicific booster...without breaking the bank or just buying a better porty? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 4:20pm
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Actually, John Braun (Hitman Advertising) is in my town. I know where his business is and he has his own 30 min show on a local chanel here...But never the less there is alwasy room for one more!!!(he still isn't top ranked in google for pensacola)
Does anyone have an opinion on Carpet Cleaning Blueprint for Success? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 4:32pm
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"Do boosters work well? "
Absolutely they do and that is why we Invented them in the 70's and received a patent for it in 1980.
Once you use one you will never use your machine without one.
The very best;
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 4:35pm
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Well Ed...Why didnt you leave a link....GEEEEEZ ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 5:27pm
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Here it is.........
http://cross-american.com/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=10 - http://cross-american.com/product_info.php?cPath=2&products_id=10 ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 9:43pm
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Can anyone tell me how it works?...if I had to guess...you connect your hose from your wand hose to input and output a hose to your porty? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 11/February/2008 at 10:32pm
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Do coupon mailers actually work...Like Value Pak?...is anyone tires of me asking questons? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 12/February/2008 at 1:50am
Wrong section Brad. Ask this in the Marketing section.  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 4:52pm
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should I bother to get a booster or just buy a better porty??? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 6:01pm
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Most boosters are weak cause they only use 1 electric motor for boost.
You are better off with a 4 vac portable. I machine that is stronger than adding most boosters to a 2 vac machine. If you were to get a booster however, I reccomend the one Mytee sells. It has 2 vacs in it and is more powerful than most. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 6:24pm
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has anyone here used a Mytee Air Hog? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 9:57pm
I have heard great things about the one from Cross-America. When did mytee start making one and who has a comparative chart on these two? I just checked steembrite's site. The mytee looks like a limited solution, limited to 3 specific models.
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Posted By: baires
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 11:52pm
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I know that you can add the Air Hog vacuum booster to any portable machine, if you don't have a Mytee (this is my case) you must to run 50 feet of hose from your machine to the booster and after that yo can add in line another 25 or 50 feet to the wand.
Now my question is what happen with your readings (water lift and cfm) when you add a booster. If you are running a porty with 2-3 stage vacuum (185" w. lift and 100 cfm) and the booster delivers 200 cfm more. There is a good balance between cfm and water lift. T hanks, Pablo.- |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 17/February/2008 at 6:59pm
| Extra boosters or vacuums with less than three stages are next to worthless. The weakest vacuum sets the waterlift for the whole system. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 17/February/2008 at 11:18pm
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again, who has a comparison chart? And does it matter that the extractor uses a 1 1/2" hose? The reason I ask is Mytee is half the price of Ed's and I would take that to mean it lacks features and performance. I am not particularly fond of Mytee. I use a HILD shampooer as I have over the years (along with clarke, kent and franklin) and I take offense that mytee bought hild more for its good name and reputation than to continue making the products that came with that name or to service the customers that are represented in the reputation of Hild. These days when someone says "you know the name" I am looking for the con game they are pulling. Happened with Packard Bell, Bell & Howell and others. Mytee promised to support the hild product line and then stopped carrying or making parts for anything of the former hild line. I trust these guys like school girls trust old pervs offering them candy. If anyone from Mytee is reading this and takes offense, I have been successful. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 17/February/2008 at 11:38pm
That info concerning the affects of the airhog are incorrect. You should see a doubling of cfm and perhaps a marginal increace in waterlift, if any.
The CA unit will have about 300 cfm and higher waterlift. Again, it is better because it's a balanced system, not to mention that if you own a Mytee you know that you pay a huge amount in labor because of those small tanks.
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 1:11am
| So the mytee airhog is a cheap knock off. All the talk is about how good the CA unit is. I now see why. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 1:31am
| It's just that the weakest vacuum in a system sets the level of waterlift. There's a guy that works for Steambrite named Donald that used to post on the Web, and he will confirm what I've said. If you're going to get a booster, don't get one that weakens your waterlift. It should have 1 or 2 3-stage vacuums in it so that it can work with any machine and not weaken the waterlift. If I owned a Airhog, I would put the vacuums in a series, because I don't use 2 stage units, except for cleaning chairs and sofas. Right now the vacuums in the Airhog are in parallel. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 1:37am
| Never mind what I just said. I just looked at the configuration of the Air Hog with the Mytee extractor and realized that they are configured differently than I had anticipated. The way they have them configured will work as they described. |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 8:21am
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I was asked to respond to all the remarks above however, due to time restrictions (very busy here), and not to give away too darn much in terms of design (for the cloners out there always listening) , I will only say this:
WE INVENTED the POWER BOOSTER (hummm, they even stold the name) System that was field tested in 1972-3 and awarded a patent in 1980. WE KNOW WHAT WORKS and this is why the cloners constantly try to ride our coattails.
Most importantly, a "copy" is never the same, period. Too many examples so I will not waste my time.
Friendlyhammer is correct in his statement of 3 stages-IF- they are designed properly and within the system.
I will hold on any critizism or comparison because I hope 'they" continue to clone what they think is the same or better.
hummmmmm. Thanks for this opportunity,
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 11:39am
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Get out there and shovel Ed..lol.. We got 10" of snow..
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Man.. my back hurts.. 6 car driveway and 250ft of sidewalk........Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 12:13pm
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John;
I'll bet with that terrific personality, you must be the only game in town ---------with all those pretty housewives that is!!!
I'll UPS you a great way of never having to shovel again.
A ticket to the bahamas!
Ed Valentine
(ha-ha-ha)
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 1:52pm
Right.. SnowBlower..
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 5:26pm
I got a reply to my question at Mytee regarding their AirHog. My question was this. "does the water hog work with my unit and if so what is the |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:27pm
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Im starting to think it will just be one more think to lug around...may just save for a tm and not waste any more money trying to make a portable better??? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:28pm
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...who knows?... ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:44pm
| I am so tight with money I get the indian riding the buffalo on a nickel. So in a way I was kinda hoping I could get $900 worth of performance for half price. But why I am getting it is what makes this the first major (for me) equipment investment this year. Second will be a new ramp (old ones weighs about 60lbs). Third will be chemical shelving for the van. Last will be the power splitter junction boxes from Mytee. At least the first two are presents for my back muscles. Maybe the third too. Last one just ends a real source of irritation. |
Posted By: baires
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:46pm
| Acording my conversation with Donald at Steam-Brite last friday there is not restriction to use the air-hog booster in any other portable extractor (different than Mytee) with heat or not heat. Anyway, at this point I think that the booster made by Ed at cross-america is the best opcion. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:54pm
You can do it, but you have to make it yourself.
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 7:56pm
Next time you talk to him, ask him about his philosophy about vacuums being in parallel or series on exatactors, and which is best. I'd be curious to see if his opinion has changed.
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Posted By: baires
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 8:21pm
| I'll be calling him in one or two days. Still waitting for his replay about some prices on a boosters. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 8:43pm
Thats what i did.. Portable after portable after portable after portable and inbetween all that a small 20hp TM..
YaSee each portable was a little bigger and a little stronger or had heat or had more gallons.. I even added a 3 stage to 2-3stage = Yea it was a 3/3stage.. RECOIL.. OH YEAH..!
 They don't sell 3/3 stage RECOILS.. Circuit blower thats why.. So i tell my Son lets get a BOOSTER for added power and he said what you said.." More crap to lug around". Son>>
 <<Pops.. But thats up to you..
 So we saved every penny and bought a mid size TM.. OH YEAH..!
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 9:17pm
| blah, blah, blah. When labor is so cheap that saving time doesn't matter, we'll see Kenny get a sale. In the meantime, buy a TM or a porable with 3-stage vacuums. The more the better. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 9:25pm
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I had a feeling you Ken would mention that about the gas.. And No it wont be $12/gal in 2yrs.. A revolution will happen before that does.. Mind you Ken, My Customers pay for the gas i use.. And if does come to that then i will abundantly think about portables.. Already have a 175 rotary so might just be a padder with a Honda hachback..hahaha. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 10:15pm
| Ken , nothing personal, but I found a message you posted in 2004 or 2005 where you said gas would hit $4 the following year (4 or 5 anyway). You predictions are based on worst case. Bring your thinking back in line with reality which is somewhere between optimistic and pestomistic. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 10:32pm
Considering that vans use gas just to get to the custy's location, I think Kenny better start investing in horses. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 10:48pm
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Just dawned on me that Ed's unit works on TM and porty solutions. So his does handle heat. To Mytee I say "If you can't take the heat, you ain't so bitchin."  |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 19/February/2008 at 12:43am
Did I mention I am mechanically and electrically challenged? |
Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 9:01am
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Thanks to all above for your recomendations regarding the POWER BOOSTER System.
As Soil Lint Green mentioned, OUR POWER BOOSTER SYSTEM--is--DIFFERENT, and for a very, very good reason. And, always has, and that is why cloners can copy...but then again....a copy is not the same for a ton of reasons.
Remember, (and never forget) one important aspect: we have had 37 years of field testing and 30 years of FULL TIME manufacturing; not part-time.
That alone should be a great reason to make that phone call before one is sold on price alone.
Thanks to all;
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 1:54pm
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"Allows you to run 3 vacs in your machine just like the Recoil 3HP does. "
NOT AT ALL, Ken. Notta close, sir.
Please feel free to sell your own products at anytime. Even point out the benefits. However, respectfully, don't try to say things that may misrepresent other products in this Industry.
The very best;
Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 2:59pm
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The reference to being the same was referring to having 3 vac motors in the machine, Ed. That part is exactly true. I am sure there may be some other differences to how your machine is put together that may be different.Either way, the small price of upping the vacuum power by up to 50 to 100% by spending only a couple of hundred dollars instead of thousands, makes this upgrade very worthwhile for the majority of cleaners that read this post. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 5:02pm
Ed >> << Ken.............
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 8:36pm
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If the reason you want to boost the vac power is to get the carpet you can reach with a 25' hose dryer, that's lame and you can either put in a third vac or one squirrel. If the reason you want to boost the vac power is to do more carpet at greater distances and not even move your porty up a stair case, get the cross-american. The competition may hate him, but you'll love him. King of Zingers! |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 9:09pm
And the tank is huge. 
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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 10:30pm
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Just to clearify...I'm just wanting to get the carpets dryer! I use a 50 foot hose now and get to most of our upstairs jobs without taking the porty up. I live in North Florida, most 2 story houses are town houses under 1500 sq ft. Anyways, so my main concern is just getting the carpet dryer. I'm saving for a TM so I dont want to spend much! I ask a lot of questions because if I had been more knowlegable before I would have just bought a TM form the start. On top of all that I have enough problems just finding 1 20 amp outlet and even when I do they still trip(i've even checked the breaker box?) So finding more than 1 would just be worse...should have just bought a tm from the start!!!!
Maybe I should just get air mover?????? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 20/February/2008 at 10:56pm
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A big air mover, yes that sounds like a plan. Expect to spend about 400 for that. And you might want to get the mytee converter to use the electric dryer hookup as your electric source. Cost is under 150 and flipped circuits are a thing of the past. 50' on a porty without the vac booster is not recommended. I don't see most porties sold with anything but 25' hoses. If they were sold with 50' then the distributor would probably be found liable for water damage as they are by their actions saying they are so convinced 50' works that they are willing to put their money on it. Sorry Brad, but that 50', while it might appear to be working, is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Water damage including mold are possible from carpet that was oversaturated and left that way. Do you check back in 24 hours to make sure the carpet is dry? You know the guidelines require a max of 24 hours with no exceptions. If you spot check your work and you get 100% no worries. If they say the carpet is still damp, worry. Might want to get a site tube on the wand end of the hose to see if you are extracting enough. Also, when you measure the waste water compared to the fresh water you put in the solution tank, what percentage (roughly) are you getting out of the carpet? This isn't aimed at Brad as much as it is simply reinterating guidelines that newer guys in the business need to know before taking these conversations as gospel. If the new guys screw up, they screw it up for all of us. I have been to Brad's site and he is a master at doing things his way. He's no dummy. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/February/2008 at 12:23am
| Just dont leave it in the van and run 100-150'.. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 21/February/2008 at 9:26pm
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Soil, I'm not trying to do things my own way, just trying to learn how to do them the right way. (thats why I ask all these quesstions) I've only started cleaning with a 50 ft hose for 4 weeks or so. The only reason I even bought a 50 ft is because I had to replace my old 25 foot and the the guy at rotovac said a 50 ft would work. As for checking the dry times, I did one of my rental houses the other day and the carpet was dry in about 6 hours. So far on any job that I checked on it took no where near 24 hours for the carpet to dry. Also, I would love to use a converter but for instance, the dryer plug at my house would require me to pull the dryer way out to get to it...What would people think? I all ready fill wierd having to use the custys utilities. If you have looked at my site and see something I am doing wrong, I would gladly take any advice to correct it. PS I'm not in this to make a quick buck. ALL of our $$$ goes right back into the business. I'm just trying to get this together so I can get out the Air Force! Doing it correctly and doing a great job are more important to me than making a buck right now!------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 12:17am
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If you are getting dry carpet in 6 hours, that's good performance. I use a rotovac too but only on jobs the customer is paying good money for ($500 or more for a 2 story house) and those are all day jobs because the carpet is pre-sprayed, cleaned primarily with a rotary shampooer and then rinsed only with the rotovac. That is a premier package. My low price economy pages are straight wand, single pass except on heavier soiled areas. I do love the rotovac and when I first got it I wouldn't do anything but rotovac. But even Cliff Monson in one DVD I have said limit the use. So I limit it to bigger bucks only. Jobs go faster and cheaper without it. Yet on my carpet I use nothing but the rotovac and mine is white nylon berber. Doing it ever three months keeps it clean too. :) I use that site tube to make sure the carpet is damp only and you know how fussy white carpet can be about moisture. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 12:22am
| Brad, which model Mytee do you have? Is it the 1001HV? Does it have heat? Wondering if we have the same configuration. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 12:36am
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Get some of the little fans too, Brad. For your comfort while cleaning, not for the drying thing. I even tell customers I use the fans for two reasons and it gives them a good chuckle. Shows a flaw that makes me, a stranger allowed into their home, more human. As long as I don't feel like I'm in a steam room which carpet cleaning with a porty has a tendency to do to me just from the higher humidity level as if the Pacific Northwest wasn't high enough on its own. Sure it is the same was in Florida. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 12:44am
Brad has the Speedster. Probably the 1005HV. Shows that 2 vac motors are not enough power sometimes. That is the reason I sell the 3 and 4 vac motor portables. I don't want a me too machine. I sell to those cleaners wanting the best and most powerful machines they can get. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 2:15pm
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Soil, did you get my message? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 2:37pm
And replied too. You sent it: Today at 10:59am And I replied: Today at 11:17am For those of you with analog clocks, Brad sent me a message when the big hand was almost at the tippy top of the clock face just before the number 12 and the little hand was on the 11. My reply to Brad was when the big hand was two dashes after the 3 and the little hand was still on the 11. Todays show is brought to y'all by the letter C and the number C000h.  |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 2:53pm
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Lava heat ..... Entry way.. Front door was open for hoses.. Looks like 300f but its not.. The temp gauge read 240f..
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/February/2008 at 3:16pm
| That's great heat, John. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 1:22am
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I do nee the fans for myself..I sweat like im in a jungle...my partner never breaks a sweat? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 1:23am
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is it a bad thing in this forum to have a link in your sig? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 1:26am
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Well Soil, I was about to leave for work and your coment was picking my brain ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
and I had noticed you were still online at the time!Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 2:47am
Yeah Brad, sometimes I just keep the session open and get back to it later. Like now, almost midnight but I have been logged in all day. Sorry, old habits. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 12:44pm
What the 7734 you talking about..?
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 3:33pm
Hey I have a great idea. Now stick with me on this. Tell the partner that you have a medical condition and the doctor has prescribed staying of your feet, get plenty of rest and drink lots of liquids. So far so good, right? Let the partner know how bad you feel about this "temporary" setback and that you want to do your part to help. Tell him that you can work from a folding lawn chair with a mint julep and help him spot any areas he missed. Oh, and you need fans blowing on you with a gentle breeze.  Now let me know if he falls for it cause I am looking for a partner JUST like that!! Yeah, I have to change shirts between jobs. It's not the smell, its that stepping out into freezing air brings a chill. I have 2 of the small fans to keep me cool enough to keep working without a break. And then I drink a six-pack of diet root beer at the end of the day. I learned from living in the desert. Just because you aren't soaked does not mean you aren't sweating. Dry air evaporates it faster than the humid conditions we make especially in naturally high humidity areas like the south (been there, no thanks) and the pacific northwest (cooler, I like it). ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 7:26pm
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Putting your website link in your signiture on your post ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 8:16pm
| Who? why is it bad? |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 8:27pm
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thats what I'm wondering? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 8:28pm
with my partner its blind leadning the blind he wouldn't know what to do ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 8:29pm
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leading* ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 9:03pm
It's allowed.
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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 9:58pm
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no one does it...maybe frowned upon? ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 10:02pm
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Quit making a big issue out of nothing.. |
Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 23/February/2008 at 10:05pm
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John, I do have a big issue under the topic "anything websites" if you would like to take a stab ------------- http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com - http://www.PanhandleFloorCare.com http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com - http://www.Pensacola-Carpet-Cleaning.com |
Posted By: DeepScrub
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 9:06am
------------- "DO YOUR BEST" |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 12:08pm
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Yep TM.. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 12:27am
| WOW! |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 1:41pm
And that's not propane..
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Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 3:50pm
Amazon.com sells a 72" ramp by Lund for $148 inc shipping. We use it, biggest disadvantage is not foldable. Cheapest comm. ramps we priced were $300. ------------- |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 4:39pm
| You could make a folding ramp out of plywood.. |
Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 5:28pm
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Very true. But for under $150 it looks very professional and is light enough. And hey no shipping charge. Also works with any truck, van, p/up. Made by LUND. ------------- |
Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:25pm
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Lund 602006 Bi-Fold Loading Ramp - 30" X 77", 750-Pound Capacity sorry for the type, thats the ramp we use. ------------- |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:36pm
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Thanks for the tip, DCC. Half the weight of mine. Plywood is heavy and that is why I was looking for aluminum. Great Price and I find it at basspro.com too. Perfect. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:42pm
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I would just get a good TM you can do more jobs that would offset for the gas every one is talking about. You will also do a better job and can market against ppl that use a porty. Most the adds you see that are 9.95 a room is a porty. A guy with a TM unless he is stupid shouldn't loose a job to some one with a porty. You will also save on chemicals as you wont need as much with a TM to get the carpets clean. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:59pm
Bryan, I think truckmounts are great. Everyday when I am driving to the next job I go through neighborhoods with truckmounts in the same driveway day after day. So either it is taking these guys a long time to clean carpet or they weighed anchor until the storm passes. Oh, and I do see them in the Albertsons shopping center up by the store. I guess they are a great way to haul groceries too. Of course I am just driving through there on my way to make another bank deposit. Truckmounts are great for business. If it weren't for the porty guys undercutting on bids and getting the job done to the satisfaction of the customer, not to an extreme excess of expectations built on not reading the customer correctly. Yeah, truckmounts are great for business alright, great for the porty guys business who can afford to do it for less and live just as well as the truckmount guys. Truckmounts can do more jobs in a day, they just can't get enough people willing to take the higher price anymore to fill that day. I know that misery loves company, but maybe you should let us porty guys talk about what interests us and you stick to the truckmounts forum. Hope this insulted you. I know it warmed the heart of the porty operators big time. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 8:31pm
I'll second that......ya what she...he said!  ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 9:00pm
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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 12:32am
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Soil lint green, it is just a few good points no need to take it personally(looks like you have). I you honestly think a portable can do as good as job as a good truck mount please give me some of what you are on. You are talking about taking care of the customer and doing the best job, well again that is a TM. When I see the news specials about people getting scammed on carpet cleaning I never see a TM only portables. This is why I was saying this is an advantage for selling to the customer. The reason I post on a the portable section, was to offer a suggestion about getting more power(that is what he was after). As far as a portable I am not saying they do a bad job I own a 1001dx-200 has heat, good vacuum, but owning a TM also I can tell you that you can clean faster, and better with a TM. If it wasn't the case I would have not invested over 70k in a TM. As far as TM sitting in the drive way, how do you know there is not a portable inside. Also most vans don't fit in a garage where a guy with a portable may have it in his garage. So there could be just as many you just don't see. This is after all the slower part of the year for carpet cleaning. |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 12:51pm
I know for a fact that portys do as good a job as truckmount at cleaning carpet. TM units are good for damage restoration services. They are overkill for cleaning carpets. So yes, porty operators take as good care of the customer as truckmount owners. After all, its the technician, not the technique, that delivers excellent or less than excellent service. If a truckmount was the deciding difference we can train chimps to clean carpet. Not all TM vans (in fact very few) are not able to fit into a garage due to height. That represents but a few. I see the porty owners (and Stanley Steemer with their TM units) rolling down the road when I am. It might be the "slower" time of the year, but it is not the "dead" time of the year. People are tapped out. You are a luxury while we a relative standard economy. Both business models have lost some business to Rug Doctor. We service middle class and you TM guys fight over the wealthier few. You may make more per hour but you sit and wait for the next big fish to come along and with so many of you guys having your lines in the water you can feel good about what you made on a part time basis to suplement your job (unless you care to starve) but usually your van sits idle in the garage or outside of it. Meanwhile the porty guys are cleaning the homes of your neighbors who aren't going to tell you because they don't want to cause trouble but you shouldn't feel bad for them, afterall, they did the smart thing by getting the best value for their dollar, right? Business is good. Maybe you ought to give that porty unit a try and keep the TM for that "someday" when a post WWII economic boom visits again. Should anyone alive today live so long. Portys rule, TMs drool. You can say what you want to justify in your mind all that money you sunk in your boat anchor and the false perception that you are worth more per hour than a decent lawyer. You are as much fun as watching those false religion solicitors trying to defend the lies that make them so much better than everyone else. TM units save gas because they are on the road less often. Wow, I found a plus in cleaning carpets (infrequently) with a TM. If you want to make an honest day's living, lose all that false pride and earn it. We do. Daily. Every day. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 1:11pm
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Hey Soil can i copy and paste that to the ICS and Mikeysboard..? Or would you care to do that..? You are one sided there..
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 1:21pm
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SLG.. Have you ever used a TM..? If not how would you know..? |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 2:33pm
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Let me guess.... another TM operator pissed off from all the business
lost to the porty army? How did you put it John 3 days ago in forum_posts.asp?TID=4850&KW= - Start your TM's forum_topics.asp?FID=14 - Truckmount Carpet Cleaning Machines forum? Wasn't it: "Anyone's TM been parked in the driveway for days? weeks? Whats the word?"
Thank you for proving my point. Now, copy my post all you want. Saves me from having to post the in-your-face truth about money p!$$ed away on equipment best used for water damage. You will reinforce what porty operators know and love about this business. One of America's largest carpet cleaning firms is almost exclusively portys. Sure is a bitch to have it thrown in your face but facts are facts. Oh, sure, every jealous TM and porty guy will say "They're scam artists" but they have been operating successfully for over 30 years serving a population base of over 8 million. Hurts, don't it? The guys you try to discredit are woopin yer arses off for a tenth of what you spend on unnecessary power. Chemicals clean carpet, not the force and suction of hot water extractors. That is why dwell times of 15 minutes. You may think you are cleaning with the butter knife edge of a wand but all you are doing is rinsing. Great wet/dry vac you got there. What did you pay for it? Now, shampoo machines clean by force more than chemicals which explains why their chemicals are as close to a neutral 7ph as possible. Defies logic if you use the Hot Water EXTRACTOR argument for "more power". You guys sound like a bunch of Tim Allens on Tool Time. Seriously John, defending portys is just as easy as defending TMs. This is a two way street, not King TM and serf PORTY. Blacks and Women stood up for and got their equal rights, it would be a mistake to believe Porty owners are going to take the "We Are Better" crap with less of a fight. There is only one kind of politics, dirty politics. Don't ask the losers of the race. They are still in disbelief. TM operators were given enough chances to treat us with the respect we are due. Now, the time for repentance is over. Big box electronic stores and Wally World did it with low prices. They forced the high priced competition out of business. Do we need to hang signs that say the days of Truckmounts dominating carpet cleaning came and went? You got to love price wars, unless you are on the losing side. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 3:27pm
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I have both and use both.. OMG!! Been using portys since 84'.. You are still one sided.. No ones pi$$ed off or jealous.. Maybe you.. Give it a rest...
Only thing that rules is CASH..
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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 4:51pm
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...and the portys that are making all the CASH!
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Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 5:33pm
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Soil lint green....... I've been saying what you've been saying since I started posting here only to be shot down by the T.M. guys. Your exactly right . Who needs 5... 6... or 700 cfms or 1000 psi to do residential carpet. maybe in an industrial envirement O.K. I think there may be a perception by some that a porty won't do as well of a job so I disguise my porty on a van and run from a generator and the custy knows no differance and their always happy. Give them the service they want and expect and you have a customer for a long time. Go ahead newbies out there and buy your T.M but you won't get any more money from a custy than what your competitors in your area are charging, the custy doesn't care if your $20,000 dollars in debt, you have to compete with the porty guy with no debt who's charging $25.00/room or less. Just remember your in this to make money not to show off your super duper sucking fire breathing machine to other carpet cleaners and say I have the best because the consumer don't care. moneys where it's at. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 6:44pm
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You are right, watchman. Portys rule, TM drool and I am so glad when Sundays come so I can relax like this and p!$$ off the TM guys desperate for the old days when everyone had money to burn. We have nothing to apologize for and like you say we have no competition. Although the "bigger is better" guys would like to think they can compete. Keeping busy for this time of year, Watchman? ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |