Need help deciding on portable!
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Topic: Need help deciding on portable!
Posted By: mfeeney13
Subject: Need help deciding on portable!
Date Posted: 23/January/2008 at 1:24am
| I currently have a truck-mount, but need to get a portable for a large hotel I will be cleaning. I will need something that will handle cleaning about 25-30 hotel rooms per month. I don't know much about portables at all, so any advice would be great!! |
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 24/January/2008 at 10:29pm
How much do you want to spend? Under 1k or up to 3k..?
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Posted By: mfeeney13
Date Posted: 25/January/2008 at 9:31am
| The hotel that this would be for is upscale and the contract to clean it would justify spending more to get a good portable. I am looking for top of the line in vacuum and lift, easy to use and not a lot of dumping and refilling. I've never used a portable before, so I'm really in the dark as to what to look for!! Thanks for your help. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 26/January/2008 at 9:21pm
Good luck on that..
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mfeeney13 wrote:Posted By: mfeeney13
Date Posted: 27/January/2008 at 10:31am
| Do you recommend any certain brand of portable. I understand there will be a lot of refilling and dumping! I just want something with good heat and good suction for faster dry times. Any suggestions would be a great help!! |
Posted By: rosco
Date Posted: 13/February/2008 at 4:06pm
| I'm looking into purchasing my first porto and was looking for a way to get around the pain of filling and dumping as well. The best machine I've seen that can minimize your down time is the Mytee M-12. The unit has hose attachments that fill and empty the unit as you clean which keeps you from having to stop and fefill. Like I said....I'm looking into buying this unit myself so I can't offer any first hand experience, but I have seen it in action and it seemed to work great. It is also a smaller porto so it may be perfect for your needs. My local dealer priced it at 2600$. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 13/February/2008 at 6:15pm
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Good choice! I like the M-12 The Titan SV400 is a stronger machine, but with dump and fill option included, it would cost you almost $1000 more than that. |
Posted By: mfeeney13
Date Posted: 13/February/2008 at 10:03pm
Thanks for all your help on my decision. I just picked up my new porto today! I got a Cleanmaster Raptor 230H. It has 2 3-stage vacuums and 2- 1000 watt heaters with a 12 gallon fresh water and 13 gallon waste tanks. I only tried it at my own house so far and it worked great. I start cleaning the hotel in 2 days, so I'll let you know!!
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 14/February/2008 at 3:30am
| Nice! |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 14/February/2008 at 7:50pm
Good Choice!  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 14/February/2008 at 10:30pm
2 3-stage and heaters! 
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Posted By: mfeeney13
Date Posted: 14/February/2008 at 11:28pm
| Not bad huh? The only problem was the cost, around $4,000! But it is top of the line. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 1:14am
| I could have saved you $1200-1400, plus you'd get a lot more free equipment than what Kenny would ever offer you. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 1:44am
I doubt that.No machine offers more bang for the dollar than a Titan.  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 2:42am
I made the specific comment concerning both price and equipment because that's what it's sold for. If your price is lower and if you offer both a handtool, a wand, hoses and dual heaters for $1200 less than he paid, with shipping, then say so. If not, your comment is mere posturing and is irrelevant to what I said.
Now, you either offer a free hoses, handtool and wand, or you don't. If you don't, then shut the hell up.
Now, your price is either lower than the price I mentioned or it is not. If not, then shut the hell up.
Do you still doubt that I can get the machine for less than yours? Do you still doubt that I can get it with more equipment than yours? If not, then shut the hell up because your comments have nothing to do with what I said.
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 2:57am
| Oh, and one more thing. Contrary to what Kenny just said, dual heaters can easily keep up with 1.5 gallons per minute. I've got a number of Mytees that steam the heck of of the carpet at 2 gal. per minute. Of course, I have to put warm (not hot!) water in them to begin with. The hotter the water coming out of your machine the better, and you won't get that with Kenny's machine. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 3:17am
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Yes I include those items with the Ultima, including auto fill and pumpout function. What you dont have is another machine that offers all that and has 4 vacs motors in it making it the most powerful portable in the world like I do. Who cares if you have a machine that is $1200 cheaper when it is inferior in power and features he wants(auto fill/pump out)?
Money is not everything. If it was, he would not have paid the $4000 he did. Getting the best machine(he says he likes top of the line)with the features he wants is what is most important thing to him, as well as many others.Saving $1200 without getting that is POOR compensation.  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 3:22am
 ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 3:28am
Nope, totally the truth. Put warm (100 degree) water into a modern Mytee machine with dual heaters and you'll get steam. In fact, you won't be able to hold onto the couplers without feeling pain. I bet mfeeney13 is getting plenty of steam if he does it that way.  But perhaps you think he's a liar too. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 3:32am
You better read the list again, because you aren't offering the handtool or the heaters. And no one wants your puny 2-stage vacs.
Exactly. You don't have the features he wants. I'm up to 13 portys right now, and neither he nor I want what you've got. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 3:54am
Do the math using 2000 watt heat. You will find that the BTU's needed to heat even 1 gallon/minute(60 gallons per hour)are not there unless you think getting a 15 degree heat rise per gallon is a big event. Steam happens with even 100 degree water so getting it up to 115 degrees is not going to help much. If you get more rise than that, then you are not flowing what you think you are!  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 4:02am
I can take pictures and mail them to you if you like, Einstein. The thing you don't get is that 2 gal per minute NEVER OCCURS while cleaning carpet! WHY? Because there is no spray on the forward stroke. In addition, no one wants to clean with colder water, so no one wants your cold-cleaner 2-stage science experiment. I get constant steam. No question about it. 4 minutes to warm up, and then non-stop steaming water. |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 10:45am
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------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 11:27am
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I can verify what friendlyhammer says. I have a mytee 1003hv dual 3 stage vac, 450psi and 2000 watt built in heater and I also have constant hot water at the wand at 100' of vac hose . steam is visable during the summer months but diminishes to hot water during the cooler months. Whatever any one may say otherwise I experiance this everyday. As an actor in the movie Josie wales once said "don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining". ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 2:28pm
Sure you can Kevin. Your in Canada. The Mytee 1003 requires 2 - 20 amp circuits to operate, which DONT EXIST IN CANADA. Want to tell use how you manage this amazing feat of engineering?  ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 4:10pm
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Well Ken I have news for you. I purchased my mytee from rotovac corp. in seatle washington. they shipped it to buffalo ny where I drove the 40 minutes across the US border and picked it up. My machine runs on 2-20 amp plugs and I run it on a generator. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 4:14pm
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As I've said in other posts my mytee is operated like a t-mount it never leaves my van. doesn't take an einstein to figure it out. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 4:30pm
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p.s....ps.... another thing a little advice for anyone looking for a powerful porti. look in the U.S even if you have to drive a couple of hours to pick it up.(you only have to pay provincial taxes no duty if manufactured in the U.S) I have checked and continue to do so and CANADA does not have any powerful porti with heat and all the other bells and whistles. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 7:58pm
Hmmmmmmmm......
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 8:10pm
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Okay, but there is still no way to raise water(warm) from 100 degrees to even 150 with 2000 watts of electric power at even a 1 gal/min average draw over an hour. That is 60 gallons to heat and the btu's are just not there, never mind the 200 degree temps that you are alluding to.I can do the calulations to show you that you cant if you want. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 8:23pm
I have never alluded to 200 degrees not my figure. I have never measured the temp and don't care to. All I know is it's hot always and even hotter on those hot summer days when I can see the steam on the custys carpet. customers allways happy ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 9:52pm
That is where I got my 1001. Great machine, customers see if and realize this is no Rug Doctor. I had a solution hose develop a leak at the wand connector and drove to JonDon in Portland Oregon, 110 miles from here. While I was there picking up a few things like Perky Rakes and chemicals that would have cost more to ship than the gas itself cost me, I had them fix it for a few bucks. That is the only time I have had a problem with anything Rotovac shipped me. And the 1001 is a real performer. I wanted the 1003, was talked out of it by the salesman who claimed it was always blowing circuits. |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 10:51pm
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I assume your in Canada. yes you will blow circuits with 20 amp plugs. you would have to run with a generator. but I have run it in my own home a while back with heat off and only 1- 3 stg vac running and I didn't blow a breaker. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: watchman
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 10:56pm
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sorry I read your post again I missed the portland oregon location. I wonder why you would blow circuits , I thought the US runs on 20 amp. ------------- JUST WATCHING AND LEARNING |
Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 15/February/2008 at 11:59pm
Yep. I can see steam any time of the year, just following my guidelines. |
Posted By: Mark McMaster
Date Posted: 16/February/2008 at 1:23pm
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I have the Mytee M-12. Great machine.
------------- Don't take your organs to heaven..... Heaven knows we need them here http://www.mcmastertile.com - www.mcmastertile.com |
Posted By: mfeeney13
Date Posted: 16/February/2008 at 1:29pm
| Boy, I never thought that my posting about the Raptor would cause such turmoil. The bottom line is that everyone has their own preference of machines. That's why there are so many choices. I really like the Raptor I just bought and that's that. Everyone should spend less time arguing about machines and more time cleaning!!! |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/February/2008 at 1:29pm
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This is with the Recoil and a ProChem 2000 elec.Heater.. @ 250 psi..
Case Closed..
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Posted By: Superglide Ken
Date Posted: 16/February/2008 at 2:00pm
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Not cased closed. Any heater will get water hot, but not at the higher flow rates. That was my point. ------------- Inventor of the Teflon Wand Glide and the Turboteck Rotary Air Duct Cleaners for TMs. |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/February/2008 at 5:11pm
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Didn't have 500psi at the time or higher flow.. At 250psi and 2-03jets its all good.. If you wand triggering back then dry up it gives the heater the time to get real hot.. Now if you keep the trig open constantly then you lose heat.. Have you used one..? Some guys never have but swear they don't work..
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 17/February/2008 at 6:50pm
| Nice pic, John. That's at least twice the steam I get, but it's proof enough. There's no convincing Kenny, but those of use who own such machines know better. That's why I asked others with similar machines to post. I have nothing to fear. Has Kenny ever told us anything accurate about portables the first time? |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 12:49am
Has Kenny ever posted anything accurate about anything?  ------------- 
The STD Meter |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 18/February/2008 at 1:30am
I pop them once in a while because of other things the customer has on the same circuits or just old crappy wiring. No, what I was saying was that the Rotovac salesman told me the 1003HV was a real circuit blower and that unless I intended to use a generator I would not be happy with it. He talked me out of it and lost some income for Rotovac and him (unless there was some special spiff going on between Mytee and Rotovac on the 1001HV which isn't beyond the possible). |