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Topic: ROTFLMAO..!
Posted By: John L
Subject: ROTFLMAO..!
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 5:54am
It's so hilarious it make's you ROTFLMAO..! Banana DanceSome of the Post's on ICS and Mikeymouse BB.. 8000SFT with a OP Pad Cleaningand only use 8gal of cleaning chem's.. LOL .. HWE Carpet Cleanerwill ruin Berber's.. and on and on..
 
There Emotion's seem to set in when they post these long pages of nonsense.. Emotion can be your enemy..Bang Head  It's not about winning.. We all can't win all the time.. It's about PERFECTION.. And no one's perfect.. But we continue to strive for it..
 
Yea..!  And I have a Intel Pentium 10 now..! Quad- Quad processor 6.4GHz with a GeForceŽ 18800 ULTRA, (1768MB)..4-each (2GB) Corsair dimm rails for memory..Banana Dance Banana Dance Banana Dance
 
WHO.. ? WHO is brainwashing these ppl..? Yea. Yea. Who cares..!!Nah, nah



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 8:27am
lots of emotion in your post John...lol

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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 9:31am
bunch of fairy's over there....weird like a cult...creeps me out.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 10:50am

Not emotions M.Steamer.. ROTFLMAO..! LOL And Disbelief.. And unbelievable info posted on some of the BB's..They shouldn't even post their nonsense.. rookie's/newbies that know it all..Ahhhh!! 



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 3:40pm
I like it here... you're allowed to tell someone that they are full of sh*t... over there you's get banned..

I posted about Chemspec's DFC and it was removed..because I had less than favorable things to say.



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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 4:09pm
I think you guys got it all wrong. You can tell someone they are full of sh*t and many do. Idiots aren't tolerated there as they quickly find out how unwelcome they are and are run off by the general membership. The Glide Goof lasted 3 days there.

You pulled out one post and are trying to paint the whole board and its membership like that and thats total BS. The post that John was mentioning was challenged immediately and she was called on it. If you been around the boards for a while you know what to expect that was Darleen aka Dolly - what did you expect?

Steamer - you would have a good time there just like most of you would.
Cult like. YOu could say that bullsh*ters aren't welcome, trouble makers are tolerated if they are funny otherwise they get run off.

Tell me if it is cult like why is it the fastest growing board in our industry and why is it it has consistantly got more posts and new members than the other boards. Is it because we are idiots - don't think so.   

If you are insecure over there its maybe because it does have an intimidating atmosphere to some at times. But almost everyone there would just as soon help you with a question or give you support - unless you're full of sh*t.

Bob Foster aka pilediver - one of the administrators

Splook stay the f**k away because I will personally run your ass off. If you were funny we might allow you to stay just to screw with you.

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 4:12pm
Steamer you must be mistaken about your DFC post because no one would delete that on MB. That is what it prides itself on - Not deleting info good or bad about suppliers and equipment.   Honest to God - WE DON'T DO THAT!
    

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 4:16pm
I hearya Bob.. Most are good to go and know their stuff.. Didnt want to mention names but you took care of it.. Just the few who make you ROTFLMAO..!Big smile


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 4:29pm
You know what makes that board good is there are plenty of people who actively pariticate on it and it just gets better and better. It also atracts a few kooks too and as the board is getting larger there are some politics. Everyone of the admins cuts to the chase about BS politics.

Because it is attracting so many good people with lots of wisdom it feeds on itself and that makes for a good bullsh*t filter. It also can at times intimidate a newby but all they have to do is say they are new or need help and some of the most respected people in this industry will take the time to help them. Got a question about multiple truck operations - not uncommon for Ken Snow to offer you his personal advice (he has 38 trucks). Got a question about a stain - take your pick anyone of problably 30 world class teachers/inspectors/formulators will personally answer your question.. Got a business question how about you get a personal reply from Steve Toburen or Bill Yeadon.....and on an on.

Want to joke and screw around - you can do that too in the Birdroom.

Don't get me wrong - this is a great place too and I am grateful to be able to participate here.
    

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 29/November/2007 at 10:32pm
I agree. MB is a great place to learn from industry experts

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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 01/December/2007 at 11:02pm
A lot of friggin fluff on that board though.
Most boards I read all the stuff eventually, not on Mikeysboard.
I feel that if you don't follow the mainstream you are quickly ostracized.
I reserve my comments more often than not on that board.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/December/2007 at 11:44pm
You do have to follow it daily and weed out some of the nonsense

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 12:25am
it was the red boaRD THAT DELETED my post....chemspec Canada dismissed my charges that their crap went bad..LOL

as for mikey'sboard ...pay toilet is a knowitallarse and if it aint vortex it aint sh*t

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 12:33am
It's not just Mike. There are a lot of industry gurus there

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 12:46am
good..better there than here...lol

we got Canada's top Cleaner Lee
a magician ted
GodURich Doug
a Carpet Master
a TiTian!
a former restuarant owner

what more do we need here

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 2:30am
A couple of vortex owners?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 10:29am
I have a vortex 6L in my savanas does that count

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 3:49pm
It's vortec, and no it doesn't

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 4:07pm
i was worried there for a minute

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/December/2007 at 9:37pm
You thought you owned one so you were going all arrogant on us?

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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 03/December/2007 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

Yea..!  And I have a Intel Pentium 10 now..! Quad- Quad processor 6.4GHz with a GeForceŽ 18800 ULTRA, (1768MB)..4-each (2GB) Corsair dimm rails for memory..

People post their pc specs there? That's odd.

e6300 (oc'd 2.8 GHz), EVGA 680i, 8800 GTS 320 Superclocked, Auzentech Prelude, Ballistix Tracers 800 (2x1G), Enermax Galaxy 850w DXX

Tongue



Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/December/2007 at 4:29pm
Nice system

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/December/2007 at 4:39pm
can you dual wand with it???

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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 03/December/2007 at 9:05pm
If EA Games ever comes out with a Prochem FPS, I'll damn well try!


Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 03/December/2007 at 11:09pm
And HEY you got!  Mr. Slide here!LOL

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 1:27am
Where?

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 2:39am
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

good..better there than here...lol

we got Canada's top Cleaner Lee
a magician ted
GodURich Doug
a Carpet Master
a TiTian!
a former restuarant owner

what more do we need here
 
Don't forget about me! " Mr. Slide" LOL


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!!!Check this out!!!
Put a Slide Not a Glide on your Wand, and do a better job!


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 1:12pm
They already forgot about you, Mr. Slide.


Fell asleep waiting to see your glide.

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Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 1:41pm
Boxing


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 4:09pm
the never ending release

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 5:28pm
release-it..LOL


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 5:50pm
" Please release me,
Let me go,
If carpet cleaners can't see me,
They will never know,
To live in Mr Slide's imagination would be a sin,
So release me,
And let me glide again!"
    

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by Ken Harris Ken Harris wrote:

They already forgot about you, Mr. Slide.


Fell asleep waiting to see your glide.


You should be used to that. Has anyone seen yours lately?
     

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 8:44pm
this is gettin kind a personal

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 11:37pm
That's to funny Ken!LOL

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 04/December/2007 at 11:49pm
I thought you might like that Al.

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Posted By: steamdragon
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 11:38am
I hate glides they are gay just like you Kenny

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 12:38pm
Another Ken fan?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 1:50pm
i think he has another fan

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 1:51pm
I have a fan in my van.. And don't say its Ken..LOL


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 5:54pm
OK, I won't say it

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 6:38pm
i didn't no you named your tools what do you call your wand????

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 8:31pm
d**k?

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 10:23pm
Long d**k..! LOL


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/December/2007 at 11:52pm
Good guess eh?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:07pm
I'm sure the customers would love to hear that

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:16pm
maybe is has it's name on the head

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:18pm
does yours?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:20pm
yea pro chem

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:23pm
the one ken sold you?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:24pm
no the ones i got with the units I think i have 3 quad wands

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:30pm
any of them from Ken?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:30pm
none it got back ordered

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:31pm
or ordered back i can't remember but that was a long time ago

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:32pm
2"???

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:33pm
i think they are actually 13/4" i think i could be wrong

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:36pm
so what size hose do you use 13/4???

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:37pm
2"

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:38pm
not all the way???

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:39pm
from the machine to the wand

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:41pm
so you reduce at the wand?

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:42pm
no

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:43pm
but you have a 13/4

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:44pm
i think it is expanded to 2" for a few inches all pro chem tools are 2"

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:46pm
O I C... yes I remember my old prochem wand...

I think I have at least 10 wands sitting around

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:46pm
i used to but got rid of most of them

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:48pm
I carry 2 on each truck...a tall on for speed...and a short one when they have too much crap in the way

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 10:49pm
i carry a short one called a stair tool???

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/December/2007 at 11:25pm
naw I don't use a stair tool...I hate to keep changing mid stream

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 12:50am
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

naw I don't use a stair tool...I hate to keep changing mid stream


You use a wand on the steps?
     

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 1:27am
You could use my Slide that works great for stairs!Big smile
Makes life so much easier! ( Just Slide it on your wand) no need to
get your stair tool!Big smile


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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 8:49am
I wand the stairs...and always have!

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 11:42am
The risers too?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 1:42pm
YEAH   the wand spray... then you suck it all off with the hose..better than any stair tool

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 3:09pm
oh please?? slide why in hell would you want a glide on a stair tool?

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 6:19pm
Cause you don't want to be a hack , Doug.

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 8:59pm
a hack?? what he hell i use my staitr tool to scrub it's steps for christ sake. almost as bad as a glide on an upholstery tool

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 18/December/2007 at 9:31pm
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

oh please?? slide why in hell would you want a glide on a stair tool?
No Doug!! The Slide go's on the wand ( I don't make Slides for stair tools)
I agree, I don't think a glide should be on a stair tool!
The Slide Doug, Has the same 1/4 in radius as the wand has, but the Slide
has 2 sets of holes, a front row and a back row, so before your wand falls off the stair, the back row of holes has sucked all the way to the edge!Big smile
the front row go right up to the next stair, the 1/4 in. radius still allows
for good agitation!Wink
 
 
                                                   SmokeySmoken ! 


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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 1:58am
Sounds like a glide I already make Al. I will be very interested in seeing your design. They say there is not much new under the sun. This may be one of those occasions.

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 2:05am
No Ken, you don't make anything like this!Big smile

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 2:10am
Sounds like you have it all figured out

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 2:15am
No, I'm still thinking!Big smile
THERE'S REALLY NO LIMIT TO WHAT KIND OF SLIDERS I CAN MAKE!LOL 
 
 
I'm going to Sacramento,ca. friday to show a dist. & hopefully get some orders!Pray


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Put a Slide Not a Glide on your Wand, and do a better job!


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 3:01am
Good Luck, Al

Sounds like you will be taking the Green Glide business there.

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Posted By: Mr. Slide
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 3:25am
Thank's Ken!
That company stop selling gg a while back when told to stop!
So I'm hoping they will be glad to have something to replace it with!Big smile


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Put a Slide Not a Glide on your Wand, and do a better job!


Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 11:44am
I'm sure they will.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 1:30pm
I thought the only glides that were going to be sold in the US were yours? Why isn't that disty in Sacramento selling them?

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 2:02pm
I sell most of my large glides(Superslides)only direct from my website now. Only a few distributors that have been selling my glides for years during my troubles with the HR suit(like Cobb and Kleenkuip)get to keep selling now that I have the ONLY HR approved design on the market. The rest have to buy either Ultralip or Superlip glides if they want to offer their customers glides.I expect that all other designs will be removed from the market long before 2008 is over.

I don't know yet if Al's sliders will be effected yet by this, because I haven't seen them, but based on the fact that Al says they have holes(not allowed under the HR patents), I expect they will need to be removed from the market too. HR's patent has been extended to Canada, the UK, and Australia as well as the USA now, so if a Glide/Slide manufacturer does not have a letter from HR approving their design, and that design has holes in it, they are going to be sued.

but the Slide
has 2 sets of holes, a front row and a back row,

Good luck Al

    

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 2:07pm
Kleen Kuip doesn't carry any of your glides...they think your a flake?
    

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 4:02pm
And your point is?

Kleen Kuip still sells my Superglide glides. And my wands. If you think otherwise, it is you who is mis-informed Steamer.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 4:27pm
They actually stock and sell them? I think we need confirmation from a reliable source

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 4:30pm
Sure Paul. Fly done to the GTA and see them in the store for yourself. We all know Steamer's opinion is not reliable.



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 5:05pm
where in the GTA can one find a reliable source??? apparently Mr. Steamer's opinion is worth very little in this thread??

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 5:09pm
Ted is the guy with the most reliable opinion in the GTA IMO. Ask him.Certainly at Kleen Kuip.

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by Ken Harris Ken Harris wrote:

Sure Paul. Fly done to the GTA and see them in the store for yourself. We all know Steamer's opinion is not reliable.


    maybe you can meetup with steamer and go to Ted's together??

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

Originally posted by Ken Harris Ken Harris wrote:

Sure Paul. Fly done to the GTA and see them in the store for yourself. We all know Steamer's opinion is not reliable.


    maybe you can meetup with steamer and go to Ted's together??




Odds of that happening Doug would be about the same as Paul going to Kleen Kuip with Big Foot. Steamer is never seen in public or any social setting where he could be recognized, eh?



     

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 5:52pm
Maybe he's a homebody

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Posted By: Ken Harris
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 6:00pm
I think he just likes to stay incognito. Only people that have ever seen him that post on this board are Gloria and Ted.I'm sure he has his reasons for keeping a low profile.

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 6:53pm
the mark of Zoro or I mean Steamer. whoo ooo ooo was that masked man??

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 6:58pm
Ted won't post that he doesn't carry your glides...he feels sorry for you... Thats just the way it is.

I've been into the store a few times this year...Ted's shown me everything under the sun...even did Magic for my daughter... BUT NEVER SHOWED MY A GLIDE OR WAND FROM KEN.

I've asked...Ted Just laughs like that

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/December/2007 at 6:59pm
Ted did a magic trick and they all dissappeared

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