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Topic: Marble
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Subject: Marble
Date Posted: 08/June/2004 at 6:39pm

I do a lot of Marble refinishing.... I use a crystal powder to creat the shine... does anyone know of any other chemicals I could use...something that gives the results without the work...

The powder that I buy cost 300 bucks a 10 lbs bucket




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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2004 at 4:10pm
no answers yet...not even one???

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Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 13/November/2004 at 7:24pm

You can use acid and steel wool to crystalize the surface. 

 

I do stone work too and those powders are $$$$$$$$$$$!

 

 

 



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 13/November/2004 at 11:16pm

Steamer.

Ted sells HG products from Germany for natural stone floors. You should check them out.



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Posted By: Tile and Stone
Date Posted: 30/December/2004 at 3:03pm

Recrystallization is still a controversial area for stone polishing.  Stick with the powders to give your customer the best results and protect the stone from possible stone failure.  Stone needs to be able to "breathe" and recrystallization provides a shine by forming a new compound which often prevents moisture from escaping from inderneath the tiles surface.  Plus, any moisture in the stone could cause a yellowing effect, especially in white thassos or carrera.  Polishing with powders allows the stone to shine naturally and looks "richer."  Of course, that is just my opinion.

You could also use diamond abrasives, but they are really tricky to control. 



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 09/January/2005 at 10:28am

Maybe someone here can help me while the Man is out of town. I have someone asking me, can you polish Marble floors with a buffing machine?

Also some cleaner used a product that took the shine off the Marble floor. How does he get it back? Should he strip it first and if he does and then adds a Marble polish will this bring back the Shine.

Any help would be appreciated!!!!



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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 09/January/2005 at 9:11pm

Dose anyone here clean Marble, I would like to tell this gentleman something tomorrow when he calls.

Thanks



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Posted By: Tile and Stone
Date Posted: 10/January/2005 at 6:52pm

The cleaner he used probably etched the marble and it needs to be honed and polished.  I doubt just a polish will bring it back.  Yes, you can do it with a buffing machine.  Hoggs Hair and Powder is the best option unless the etching is severe,  then he should use Diamond Abrasives to get rid of the areas that are dull. 

Treat marble like you would chalk.  If it eats the chalk, it will probably eat the marble.



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Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 10/January/2005 at 7:39pm

I totally agree with T&S!

 

 



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 10/January/2005 at 10:34pm

Thanks T&S I appreciated the answer. I personally think this guy is over his head but I guess you have to learn and start some were.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/January/2005 at 11:00pm

Adwa the HG products are crap...... the only thing That I found that works is the powder... it gives it that wet glass look....



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Posted By: Lisa Smith
Date Posted: 10/January/2005 at 11:07pm

I tried using a 175 rotary for marble, but it didn't work well. The weighted floor machines are the way to go.

Take care,

Lisa



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 11/January/2005 at 9:55pm
T&S  I gave the costumer your advice and he said to me today that he is going to get a professional to do the job.  It is a good customer of his and he would like to keep him. So he is going to do the right thing and get someone hopefully that won't ruin the floors, like he fells he might have.    Thanks

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 12/January/2005 at 12:10am

Adwa all he has to do is get the powder and a heavy rotor machine... and a portable to suck up the paste crap... and a bucket and mop..

pretty easy



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Posted By: Tile and Stone
Date Posted: 12/January/2005 at 6:56pm
and to continue Mr Steamer, hope the grout is solid, he doesn't polish so long he gets orange peel, he keeps the already polished area wet so he doesn't etch it when the powder blows over onto it, yada, yada

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/January/2005 at 6:58am
hey TS do you have a web site??? I would love to see your method

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Posted By: Tile and Stone
Date Posted: 14/January/2005 at 6:28pm

At this point we are 75% done.  I hope to have it up by the middle of Feb.  I am sure it won't be totally finished, but it will be a start. 

My primary method depends on the condition of the stone, grout and amount of daily traffic (Commercial Vs. Residential).  I grind if there is lippage, but usually Honing and powder polishing will handle the situation. 

I can tell you $300 for a 10 lb bucket is waaaaaay too much.  I pay $180 U.S. for 25lb's.  I think I could find it cheaper, but the person I buy it from has a tremendous amount of knowledge that he is willing to share with me whenever I need him.

 



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 27/January/2005 at 11:57pm

do you do a lot of homes... marble isn't big in the homes up here...

you have to hit the bigger estates...

Hotels all have Marble...



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/January/2005 at 12:33pm

I also can do strip and wax... I do a few day cares... but man the trouble..

I like just doing carpet



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Posted By: qcraftsman
Date Posted: 21/January/2006 at 4:03pm

check out http://www.cleanerssolution.com - www.cleanerssolution.com   

It is my father and father in law's shop in Gaithersburg, MD.  They carry a product that I use for Marble cleaning and shining.  Works great!!!

It goes for only $20.00 dollars a quart.  Go to the search function on their site (upper right) and type in Marble.  It will come up as a Chemspec Marble Crystallizer.  Good Luck!!!



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Posted By: EmpireMike
Date Posted: 01/June/2006 at 12:11am
Originally posted by Lisa Smith Lisa Smith wrote:

I tried using a 175 rotary for marble, but it didn't work well. The weighted floor machines are the way to go.

Take care,

Lisa

 
cant you just attach a piece and ad weights to it.  I've seen guys do it before.  You just have to have a decnt machine     1.5 horse


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Posted By: EmpireMike
Date Posted: 01/June/2006 at 12:11am
Originally posted by qcraftsman qcraftsman wrote:

check out http://www.cleanerssolution.com - www.cleanerssolution.com   

It is my father and father in law's shop in Gaithersburg, MD.  They carry a product that I use for Marble cleaning and shining.  Works great!!!

It goes for only $20.00 dollars a quart.  Go to the search function on their site (upper right) and type in Marble.  It will come up as a Chemspec Marble Crystallizer.  Good Luck!!!

 
 
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Posted By: Renegado
Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 1:10am
    Mr. Steamer,   Can you think to use diamond pads for this marble? If you think to do this jobs more frequently.

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Date Posted: 28/August/2007 at 8:42am
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Posted By: Mark McMaster
Date Posted: 10/February/2008 at 10:51am
Diamonds are the only way to go to give a truely proper restoration. Crystacrap will eventually come back and bite ya in the butt. As stated above, the stone needs to breath and after a while down the road, you might start seeing pieces of the marble flaking or spalling.

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Posted By: joh
Date Posted: 05/June/2008 at 4:34pm
Mr. Steamer, you may want to consider 5x rather than crystalize.



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Posted By: Mark McMaster
Date Posted: 13/June/2008 at 1:33pm
Hey Joh, you use much of MB's products? Which products do you have a preferrence to? 5X, Diaglo etc. I know it depends on the colours of marble but I usually go up as far as I can with the diamonds for the clarity. I have a crema marfil coming up soon and if I can get away with going up to 800 diamonds and throw some diaglo down with a white pad, it could save me alot of time/money.

Thanks. Have a good one. Mark


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Posted By: joh
Date Posted: 14/June/2008 at 12:10am
For a crema marfil I would stop at the 800 and run the 5x with a tampico brush and call it a day. I do not use any of MB products, not that they are not good. But I need to have control over by powders and mb stuff is just two hot, and I do not have the time to work the powder from wet to dry to make it work. I am very lazy and I like to get in and out of the job as fast as I can with as little items as possible.



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Posted By: Mark McMaster
Date Posted: 18/June/2008 at 7:21pm
Update: Was just called back to this house where I thought it was a crema. This was in the spring last I was in there. I have to go in Friday and install some tiles in the kitchen. Soon as I walked in and looked at the floor I noticed it's not a crema marfil. Looks to me to be a Crema Mora. I'm thinking that it should still be the same procedure tho correct?????

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Posted By: joh
Date Posted: 18/June/2008 at 7:53pm
correct, take some before and after pictures.

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