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Topic: PORTABLES ARE FOR LOSERS!
Posted By: STEAMPRO
Subject: PORTABLES ARE FOR LOSERS!
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 3:00pm
IVE USED PORTABLES IN THE PAST AND I FIND IT VERY TIME CONSUMING AND I FEEL IT COMES OFF VERY UNPROFESSIONAL TO THE CUSTOMER, IM THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING ANOTHER VAN AND A PORTABLE, TO HAVE A SECOND UNIT/STAND BY,COULD DOING THIS POTENTIALLY HURT MY BUSINESS, AS SOME CUSTOMERS WILL GET TRUCK MOUNT SERVICE AND SOME WILL NOT?Whisper

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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 4:21pm
I wish I had not purchased a "portable" back in the early 70s!!! Otherwise, I certainly would not have been here 35 years later!!!!!

Darn it!

Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by Ed Valentine Ed Valentine wrote:

I wish I had not purchased a "portable" back in the early 70s!!! Otherwise, I certainly would not have been here 35 years later!!!!!

Darn it!

Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.
UGH...OK?Clap

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 11:53pm

But what about those people who can't afford to get a BIG BAD TM, because they are not able to afford it yet,  I have had a portable for 6 months now and yeah its a pain compared to the convience and speed of a TM but its all I can afford right now, because if I get a TM than I am going to have to invest in a heavy duty van aswell, why not keep doing what I'm doing now and building my customer base and talking to those customers that TM guys can't (hotels, apartments, 2 and 3 story office building) and save my money thennnnnn upgrade to the BIG BAD WOLF and blow the house down......I think the portable is a good initial CC startoff just as long as you don't sit on it. CLEAN....SAVE......CLEAN.......SAVE........BUY A TRUCKMOUNT!!!! You gotta start somewhere, right? Steering



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 11:53pm

Steampro your title.. Made me laugh so hard..!   LOL 



Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 13/October/2007 at 11:58pm
But really Jay Portables are just another tool in our trade.. Needed at times in different situations.. And frankly there are a few that do have some excellent cfm/lift.. Big smile 


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 1:09pm
Pimpin'I WANNA DO A FUNNY COMMERCIAL HERE IN TOWN, OF SOME DIRTY LOSER GUY WITH A BEAT UP OLD VAN AND A BUSTED UP PORTABLE, WITH DUCT TAPED HOSES, GOING TO A JOB SITE, THEN WE ROLL UP, BEAT HIS ASS, AND ROLL OUT OUR BRAND NEW EQUIPEMENT IN OUR SHINY NEW VAN, DO YOU THINK THIS MAY BE A BAD IDEA?Guitar

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by Ream57 Ream57 wrote:

But what about those people who can't afford to get a BIG BAD TM, because they are not able to afford it yet,  I have had a portable for 6 months now and yeah its a pain compared to the convience and speed of a TM but its all I can afford right now, because if I get a TM than I am going to have to invest in a heavy duty van aswell, why not keep doing what I'm doing now and building my customer base and talking to those customers that TM guys can't (hotels, apartments, 2 and 3 story office building) and save my money thennnnnn upgrade to the BIG BAD WOLF and blow the house down......I think the portable is a good initial CC startoff just as long as you don't sit on it. CLEAN....SAVE......CLEAN.......SAVE........BUY A TRUCKMOUNT!!!! You gotta start somewhere, right? Steering

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

Pimpin'I WANNA DO A FUNNY COMMERCIAL HERE IN TOWN, OF SOME DIRTY LOSER GUY WITH A BEAT UP OLD VAN AND A BUSTED UP PORTABLE, WITH DUCT TAPED HOSES, GOING TO A JOB SITE, THEN WE ROLL UP, BEAT HIS ASS, AND ROLL OUT OUR BRAND NEW EQUIPEMENT IN OUR SHINY NEW VAN, DO YOU THINK THIS MAY BE A BAD IDEA?Guitar
Embarrassed

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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:18pm
SteamPro;

"UGH...OK?"


Yep! Just thought I'd put a little "twist" into my answer in a "round about way"!!!


hee-hee-hee!

Ed V


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by Ed Valentine Ed Valentine wrote:

SteamPro;

"UGH...OK?"


Yep! Just thought I'd put a little "twist" into my answer in a "round about way"!!!


hee-hee-hee!

Ed V
Clap

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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 2:57pm
Portables will always be in Toronto as long as we have (secure) office buildings over 20 stories high.


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by splash_$$$_dash splash_$$$_dash wrote:

Portables will always be in Toronto as long as we have (secure) office buildings over 20 stories high.
Clap

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Posted By: toolman
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

IVE USED PORTABLES IN THE PAST AND I FIND IT VERY TIME CONSUMING AND I FEEL IT COMES OFF VERY UNPROFESSIONAL TO THE CUSTOMER, IM THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING ANOTHER VAN AND A PORTABLE, TO HAVE A SECOND UNIT/STAND BY,COULD DOING THIS POTENTIALLY HURT MY BUSINESS, AS SOME CUSTOMERS WILL GET TRUCK MOUNT SERVICE AND SOME WILL NOT?[IMG]height=21 alt=Whisper src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smileswhisper.gif" width=31 align=absMiddle>

    Well I have been using a portable for about 10 months now, and I always ask my customers what type of system was used in their home the last time it was cleaned,and most of the time it was by a truck mount, but they also said I did a far better job and I would get their business next time needed. I believe it's all in the person doing the job. I also look at all my jobs as a challenge to see how clean I can get it without over wetting.


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/October/2007 at 8:16pm
Originally posted by toolman toolman wrote:

Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

IVE USED PORTABLES IN THE PAST AND I FIND IT VERY TIME CONSUMING AND I FEEL IT COMES OFF VERY UNPROFESSIONAL TO THE CUSTOMER, IM THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING ANOTHER VAN AND A PORTABLE, TO HAVE A SECOND UNIT/STAND BY,COULD DOING THIS POTENTIALLY HURT MY BUSINESS, AS SOME CUSTOMERS WILL GET TRUCK MOUNT SERVICE AND SOME WILL NOT?[IMG]height=21 alt=Whisper src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smileswhisper.gif" width=31 align=absMiddle>

    Well I have been using a portable for about 10 months now, and I always ask my customers what type of system was used in their home the last time it was cleaned,and most of the time it was by a truck mount, but they also said I did a far better job and I would get their business next time needed. I believe it's all in the person doing the job. I also look at all my jobs as a challenge to see how clean I can get it without over wetting.
Clap

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 30/October/2007 at 8:01pm

GUY COMES TO A HOUSE TO CLEAN THE CARPET WELL DRESSED WITH HIS  SHIRT ALL IRONED AND TUCKED IN, HE GREETS CUSTOMER WITH A HAND SHAKE AND A SMILE!Thumbs Up, GETS HIS PORTABLE OUT AND GETS TO WORK! ..CUSTOMER WALKS IN SEES HIM USING HIS SHINY NEW PORTABLE,Carpet Cleaner, AND SAYS ''WHAT THA FUKKK!!! I THOUGHT I HIRED A ''REAL'' CARPET CLEANER!!! GET YOUR LITTLE PIECE O sh*t MACHINE OUT OF MY HOUSE YOU F ING LOSER!!!Censored



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 31/October/2007 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

GUY COMES TO A HOUSE TO CLEAN THE CARPET WELL DRESSED WITH HIS  SHIRT ALL IRONED AND TUCKED IN, HE GREETS CUSTOMER WITH A HAND SHAKE AND A SMILE!Thumbs Up, GETS HIS PORTABLE OUT AND GETS TO WORK! ..CUSTOMER WALKS IN SEES HIM USING HIS SHINY NEW PORTABLE,Carpet Cleaner, AND SAYS ''WHAT THA FUKKK!!! I THOUGHT I HIRED A ''REAL'' CARPET CLEANER!!! GET YOUR LITTLE PIECE O sh*t MACHINE OUT OF MY HOUSE YOU F ING LOSER!!!Censored

 
Happen twice to me.. in 20yrs.. So thats good odds.. Nothing to really worry about


Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 31/October/2007 at 7:49pm

Put a booster on it and leave it in the van.



Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 31/October/2007 at 7:54pm
2 boosters..  Ahhhh!! and WOW them..  Ahhhh!!


Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 01/November/2007 at 12:12am
Hasn't happened to me. Having the RX-20 probably helps. Being a carpet cleaner in San Diego who actually speaks English as his first language also goes a long way. Wink

Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

GUY COMES TO A HOUSE TO CLEAN THE CARPET WELL DRESSED WITH HIS  SHIRT ALL IRONED AND TUCKED IN, HE GREETS CUSTOMER WITH A HAND SHAKE AND A SMILE!Thumbs Up, GETS HIS PORTABLE OUT AND GETS TO WORK! ..CUSTOMER WALKS IN SEES HIM USING HIS SHINY NEW PORTABLE,Carpet Cleaner, AND SAYS ''WHAT THA FUKKK!!! I THOUGHT I HIRED A ''REAL'' CARPET CLEANER!!! GET YOUR LITTLE PIECE O sh*t MACHINE OUT OF MY HOUSE YOU F ING LOSER!!!Censored



Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 01/November/2007 at 1:00pm
ClapperBanana DancePEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!

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Posted By: scotty
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 3:54pm
Just noticed you are an incredibly experienced and undoubtedly professional person at the mature age of 26 years.............

You are clearly failing in your chosen profession, as you would not be on here sl*gging off others.

I'm sure you will also know that a guy with an o/p machine can knock spots anything you produce.

It's also highly probable that ANY competent operator with a decent portable and the experience to use it effectively will also embarass you, in fact it occurs to me that this is probably what's happened and you are on a mission to rubbish people who are a damn site better than you will ever be, no matter how big or powerfull your toy !

Just the way you come accross.   

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 5:10pm
I agreeI don't even think Steampro has a truckmount himself LOL.  He hasn't been a member that long, so I have been able to read almost all of his posts and I believe he owns a portable now and is in the process of looking for a truckmount, so I don't know why he trying to downplay the portable seeing as thats all he owns right nowHits the fan. I think Steampro has way to much time on his hands to be a new business and have the capability to posts 232 posts(90% of those being nothing but illustrations) since he joined not even a month ago. How about this Steampro.... A GUY JOINS AN ONLINE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR CARPET CLEANERS, HE GETS SIGNED UP, HE GETS A PASSWORD AND HES TYPING AWAY, OH, I'M SORRY HE'S ILLUSTRATING AWAY!Thumbs Up.  THEN THE GUYS ON THE FORUM REALIZE THAT ONE OF THE GUYS DOESN'T CLEAN CARPETS Pad CleaningBECAUSE HE'S ALWAYS RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ON THE FORUM ALL DAY WITH STUPID ILLUSTRATIONS, SO ONE OF THE GUYS SAYS, " WHAT THA  FUKKK!!!, I THOUGHT THIS FORUM WAS FOR "CARPET CLEANERS", AND TELLS THE GUY TO GET HIS SH#TTY LITTLE SELF OFF OF THIS CC DISCUSSION FORUM YOU F*#CKING LOSER!! Censored

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 6:37pm
Maybe he needs help not sarcasm.. Bang Head


Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 7:27pm
He asked how to remove gum a couple days ago. That tells me all I need to know.


Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 7:36pm

Well then maybe he should be seeking help and not putting down the way some of the guys including me make their living everyday, especially if he doesn't own a truckmount himself. What sense does that make??



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I got money in the bank, but E on the tank.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 7:58pm
Good point Ream, however, there is a lot of sarcasm here

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 02/November/2007 at 9:51pm
Clapguess some ''loser'' got offendedNah, nah Cry

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Posted By: Mr. Nutty
Date Posted: 03/November/2007 at 1:58pm

Hello all!!!

Question; how does a person  clean a 3 million dollar condo on the 25th floor?

Drive the van UPTHERE???


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/November/2007 at 10:30pm
Sure. Why not?

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 03/November/2007 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

[IMG]height=17 alt=Clap src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>guess some ''loser'' got offended[IMG]height=19 alt="Nah, nah" src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/tongue2.gif" width=33 align=absMiddle> [IMG]height=17 alt=Cry src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
Thats what I'm talking about John L/cmaster, this guy isn't seeking help, he's seeking pissing people off and that kind of ignorance has no place here IMO.

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 04/November/2007 at 10:38pm
Originally posted by Ream57 Ream57 wrote:

Originally posted by STEAMPRO STEAMPRO wrote:

[IMG]height=17 alt=Clap src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>guess some ''loser'' got offended[IMG]height=19 alt="Nah, nah" src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/tongue2.gif" width=33 align=absMiddle> [IMG]height=17 alt=Cry src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
Thats what I'm talking about John L/cmaster, this guy isn't seeking help, he's seeking pissing people off and that kind of ignorance has no place here IMO.
Geeknot sure why your getting offended?Confused

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/November/2007 at 11:10pm
You might be just a tad obnoxious

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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 04/November/2007 at 11:41pm
and Arrogant ! I started 25 years ago with a portable , was I the best out there at the time? I thought so .....and that's all that mattered. It kept me going until I invested in a truck mount... the rest is history. I think bait and switchers and generally dishonest cleaners are the losers that we don't need in this industry....... A honest hard working owner operator with his or her first portable is " NOT a loser but a believer in the entrepreneurial way. If it's all you can afford, buy the best you can afford and keep plugging away.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 05/November/2007 at 8:40am
Good post dan.. It's true..
 
Here we go YO.. Here we go YO.. So whats up.. So whats up with this Scenerio..
 
You can be all that and then some.. check it.. check it out.....
 
Whether it be a OP.. or a Rotary..
 
A Porty or a TM..
 
If you've Mastered the art of Cleaning you'll bring home the bacon..
 
Later.. Later alligator..
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 05/November/2007 at 3:27pm
Popcorn

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 9:09pm
Originally posted by Mr. Nutty Mr. Nutty wrote:

Hello all!!!

Question; how does a person  clean a 3 million dollar condo on the 25th floor?

Drive the van UPTHERE???
 
He pulls his portable out of the back of the van, jumps on the elevator and presses the 25th floor ......If he owns a truckmount he tells the guy/girl very politely, "I'm sorry sir/maam I don't have the capability to clean the 25th floor with my truckmount", and then he gives him/her my number. Wink


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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 9:16pm
Good point.. BUT.. Every TM'er should have either a porty or Rotary onbard for those situations.. No shame in my game.. cause I'll always be the same..Big smile


Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by danmarck82 danmarck82 wrote:

and Arrogant ! I started 25 years ago with a portable , was I the best out there at the time? I thought so .....and that's all that mattered. It kept me going until I invested in a truck mount... the rest is history. I think bait and switchers and generally dishonest cleaners are the losers that we don't need in this industry....... A honest hard working owner operator with his or her first portable is " NOT a loser but a believer in the entrepreneurial way. If it's all you can afford, buy the best you can afford and keep plugging away.
   Clapper  Clap
 
 


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Posted By: Mr. Nutty
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 9:39pm
Here is my point...
 
When you seek a mechanic do you ask to see if he/she uses snap-on or craftsman?
or
a plumber "what type tools you have?"
really a customer wants "RESULTS"
they do not care if it comes from a portable or TM.
 
the secret in this industry is........
the chemical or lack of you are using to remove the stains/soils, the
machine removing it is secondary.
I have my own home-brew for tough stains.
remember I am crazy.
 
enjoy all!!  I love you.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 10:06pm

 Attention!    YES..! 

 



Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 10:48pm
You can configure an oustanding portable system in a van that will impress nearly any customer. If you've got a porty with 2 14 amp boosters sitting out in your van and you run hose into the house,that thing is sucking a lot of air. I would use my own generator, too.


Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 10:54pm

Lets get to reality.  No customer base will be built with portables.  Your customers are not stupid.  They want an upscale cleaning.  Lets all hit reality now. I have run portables and tm, and you will get NO respect or repeat business on portables.  Truck mounts I am banging down a whore business worthy of a gamer.  Its fun. 

So to any dumb ass who thinks they will succeed with a portable, I say nothing.  Go for it. I wish you the best.  FOOL! 



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I can remove more spots than you can.


Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 10:57pm
life is a game

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I can remove more spots than you can.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 10:59pm
No shame in my game cause I'll always be the same.. LOL


Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 11:00pm
I see you probing my computer.  Its Ok I like the game....Go steampro.  Tongue

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 06/November/2007 at 11:02pm
 
 Brian.. what do you run for a machine?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 07/November/2007 at 8:37am
ChemicallyFried;

You certainly stated a less than truthful remark when you said:

"Lets get to reality. No customer base will be built with portables."

No offense, please, however, I built a very nice business servicing many fantastic customers and being recommended by the finest carpet & Furniture Stores in the business. Ofcourse, I didn't use the "Generic" Portables perhaps that you are referring to because if I were, you would be right.

However, our particular systems (High-Performance "Portable"/ TM's) were mostly run from the trucks without a hitch or a problem, and with little downtime either. Ran 100-150 feet every run.

Had 11 trucks; 11 machines. And that is proven history. And to this day,(30 years later) I haven't seen any of the competition with their big banging Petro TM's beat it or as successful in terms of volume and our particular success.

I'm not knocking ANY TM or Portable. However, just pointing out how we must be a little more responsible in the truthfulness of our statements when KNOCKING a certain type of machine(s).

Ed Valentine
cross-american corp.


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/November/2007 at 9:09am
Your right on the money there Ed.. Clap
 
Most of my customers from jump street were built with me using portables..Big smile
 
CF>>  Head Crack  << ED knocking some sense into this guy.. LOL


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 07/November/2007 at 2:32pm
Smoke

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 09/November/2007 at 11:18pm
I have been running my business for 8 months now using a portable and not one unstatisfied customer yet, most customers usually tell me that the carpet hadn't looked like that since they first moved in....Its unfortunate how bias some carpet cleaners are...I mean I do want to upgrade to a truckmount eventually because of the amount of time it takes me to do a superior job on the carpets but never the less I am WOWING each and every customer with a non-heated portable....its all in the operators hands what that carpet ends up looking like after the job is done... there are excellent carpet cleaners that use portables all day and there are terrible carpet cleaners that use TM's all day and vice versa.  it's all in the operators hands.  So when people use bias towards portables, I just laugh LOL.  Cause I know it's either one of two things. They've either never owned a portable or they are ust bad at what they do for a living.  Either way that does not affect the service I provide for my customers. - With all due respect-

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 12:47am
So true Ream.. It seams so true.. That it is true.. good dang post for the unexperienced cleaners..Big smile


Posted By: darrlowe
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 1:14am
Originally posted by Ream57 Ream57 wrote:

I have been running my business for 8 months now using a portable and not one unstatisfied customer yet, most customers usually tell me that the carpet hadn't looked like that since they first moved in....Its unfortunate how bias some carpet cleaners are...I mean I do want to upgrade to a truckmount eventually because of the amount of time it takes me to do a superior job on the carpets but never the less I am WOWING each and every customer with a non-heated portable....its all in the operators hands what that carpet ends up looking like after the job is done... there are excellent carpet cleaners that use portables all day and there are terrible carpet cleaners that use TM's all day and vice versa.  it's all in the operators hands.  So when people use bias towards portables, I just laugh LOL.  Cause I know it's either one of two things. They've either never owned a portable or they are ust bad at what they do for a living.  Either way that does not affect the service I provide for my customers. - With all due respect-


Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 4:03pm
Guitar

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Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 9:13pm
Lets get to the core. AND I HAVE PORTABLES STILL AT MY HOME! Once you run a truckmount you will shortly realize portables are for dumb asses.  Until you experience the difference you are an idiot to the rest of us.  So get out of your limited world and allow your weak mind to absorb an old concept which is quite new to a moron like you. 
Truckmounts suck and spray way more than a portable.  BOOM
 
GET IT NOW!!!!!!REALIZE IT. 
 
Reality check.  You put your portable hose on my balls and at the same time Ill put my truckmount hose on your balls.  You will scream before me for sure. And give me a break on the sex jokes OK...all of you.....


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Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 9:33pm

What you will never figure out is that your customers will thank you like you are their GOD and get a big relief when you leave.  They will mislead you into thinking you are good to not hurt your sorry ass feelings.   Customers laugh at portables.  Mind you I ran portables in the past.  When I went to truckmount the respect level went off the scale.  Business tripled almost right away.  NOONE WANTS A PORTABLE.  They want alot of bang for their buck.  NOT CHEESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It has not much to do with how hard you work.  Its the customers perception of whats happening that is the real game.  The portable guy killing himself has no chance against a truckmount guy fiddling along.  REALITY TO US AND THE CUSTOMER! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE DAISIES!

Chemically Fried in reality



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I can remove more spots than you can.


Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 10:01pm
You must have offered sex in with each carpet cleaning.....whats your gig? Im not interested mind you.....or did you offer a kick back to your customers?    Did you have an inside family take..... or friends in the business?  Im sure one of these games is on your trail.  Most successful people had and inside source.....NOONE EARNS IT THSmileESE DAYS!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: ChemicallyFried
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 10:11pm

oh shut up....theres an exception to every rule.....

Generalizing I think the average butthead with an $800 used portable will have a tough time making it in this carpet cleaning world.  Im not talking about freaks like you and me that game on with a whole new venture.  I have special freak rules for you and I......granted.....

Shall we start with basic training.....How did the chicken cross the road?
 
Careful, its a trick question....


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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 10/November/2007 at 11:17pm
I have one word for you..............Ritalin

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 12:38am
Since carpet cleaners are not the typical customers their opinions being used to shape a business model is pure folly.  Mold the business after what your customers say.

However, I had one good suggestion from a guy who uses truckmounts about my coupons.  I personally think it is good advice.  Because of pre-conceived notions by some customers of the superiority of TM over porty units NEVER use an image that shows the porty.  Basically, let them be surprised at how well it does compared to what they believed.

Recall how it took people to downsize their cars from those boats we drove forever?  The smaller car still gets you there these days.  Guess we got over "Bigger is Better" with cars anyway.


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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 3:54am
If you believe that using a porty will hurt your business, then use boosters and leave it in the van. Boosters are cheap, and tanks are cheap too.


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 5:29pm
Where do you get boosters and can you give us a URL to one? 

I take it you can use long hoses with one and the boost works for both solution and vac hoses?

I would also guess you would recommend using a generator.  I have a Mytee 1001 with heater and dual vacs so I have to plug into 2 seperate circuits or I do not have enough power and would pop circuit breakers all day.


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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

Where do you get boosters and can you give us a URL to one?  I take it you can use long hoses with one and the boost works for both solution and vac hoses?I would also guess you would recommend using a generator.  I have a Mytee 1001 with heater and dual vacs so I have to plug into 2 seperate circuits or I do not have enough power and would pop circuit breakers all day.

 

The booster is only necessary for the vacuum. The solution can come from any machine and will work pretty well over the longer distances without any help.  You probably do want to use a generator if you don't want to draw attention to what you're doing.

 

The owner of this site sells some really cool boosters that work with a Ninjas and perhaps a few other machines (two boosters in a single box).  John L. has posted a picture in one of these threads already.  They are really compact. Nice! (Hey John, where are those pics?)

 

Also, see the link in my signature for another type that works with any machine, including one that doubles as a spotter.

    

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 5:42pm
I dont know Hammer..


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 5:46pm
KK's booster..>>  http://imageshack.us">
 
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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 6:13pm
Thanks friendly.  Can you make your signature visible.  It is currently in invisible mode.

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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 6:15pm
Sorry. Fixed it.

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 6:41pm
Friendly,

Would 200 PSI be enough power for the extra distance?  And How long a hose could I use effectively with the power booster?  I would be wanting to build up everything around the portable left in the van.  Probably go with external tanks for grey and fresh water and maybe a heater?

I actually like the idea of a component based solution.  Makes replacement costs smaller when you are only buying one part of the overall system.


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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 7:12pm
The only thing I can tell you is that I've never had problems with psi on longer hoses on any machines. I've never run more than 150 feet, however.

You will need a water heater. It would be electric or propane.

If you have extra hose, or someone you can borrow from, hook up the longer solution hose and try it out to see if you like it. I think you'll like it.

Also, if you have another portable, or one you can borrow, connect them to the same hose somehow to see if the suction works for you. You can have boosters with 1 or 2 extra vacuums, so make sure you're using an extractor that simulates what you intend to buy or make.  If you can find another portable that fits your budget, buy it and hook it up in series as a booster. The hose from the machine in the back will have to be hooked up to the recovery tank of the machine in front of it.

The owner of Cross-American can help you will all sorts of issues related to tanks. He sells holding tanks too.


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 9:00pm
I am looking at the QUADRA-4 Pack with the water tanks.  Then a propane heater and hose reel.  I use a rotovac which has a 1 1/2" tube and a standard 2 jet wand with the same size.  And of course a generator.

Pricing it all out in a purchase next year.  Between the weight of the ramp which is an 8' from rampkit.com (add the plywood and it makes 56 year old arms cry out) plus taking the porty up and down stairs, I know I am coming to the end of doing this one man operation without a change.  My back and legs have had it.  I have a back support belt and knee supports so I can keep on going.

Shame is having years of experience going back to 1971 and having the body that keeps you from doing what you know how to do.  Tried to hire somebody this week.  Got one guy who said he could work this weekend and then could not 30 minutes later (fired before hired), one guy who said he could work but his message phone (brother in law) couldn't locate him (fired before hired) and one guy my age with years of experience so he says but I need young, reliable and trainable - not old as me, is set in his ways and will be physically challenged while expecting more money for his experience.  Not to mention I checked out his website and he is jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none who will do anything for money which means his future with me is limited by himself.

But I will prevail.  Business keeps getting better with sales up 300% last year so growing a business is worth the Advil.


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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 9:32pm
You might want to bump that hose up to a 2 inch.  You'll need the air flow.


Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 11/November/2007 at 11:21pm
Do You Have a glided wand?


Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 12:22am
Yes, I have a Mytee glide. I'm still deciding whether or not it helps clean the carpet in any way (I have my doubts), but it does make using the wand much easier.


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 1:14am
I just put wheels on my wand and what a difference it makes.  Not in cleaning, in using the wand especially on forward strokes.

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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 1:25am
When you get up to 300-400 cfm, you'll appreciate the glide. Still, I wonder......


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 10:22am
Glides don't really do anything for cleaning, just ease of use and drying times

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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

Glides don't really do anything for cleaning, just ease of use and drying times


Yeah, I know. I meant anything related to cleaning, including drying times.

I've been doing sections of rooms with and without glides and testing the difference. So far the results are inconclusive.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/November/2007 at 7:52pm
Are you using a hole glide? Those affect drying times the most

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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 15/November/2007 at 9:06am
CF, First of all it is very obvious they we can both say that a truckmount can outperform a portable , that is not the issue.  And yes you are right that it will be harder for a portable user to obtain and sustain a carpet cleaning business than it will be for a truckmount user. And of course like I stated previously I would rather own a truckmount than a portable.  WHO WOULDN'T?  But for those of us that are starting are business or are not in the point in our business's where we can afford a truckmount, there still is hope.  Just like when you started off you owned a portable, maybe multiple portables.  WHY...because at that point in your business you were looking for what was more cost effective so that your business could survive until your customer base was big enough to where you could justify purchasing a truckmount.  And thats all I'm saying... You shouldn't SLAM others that are not at that point in their game yet.  Why not let them know about how you made it through your trenchs with the portable.  All I'm trying to do is offer hope for those starting off because more than likely it is rough for them right now, like it is for me, but I'm making it and WOWING my customers all the way to the bank while doing it or should I say WOWING them all the way to the truckmount Wink.  And as far as making it goes I just landed a contract with Best Western hotel for 109 rooms yesterday Money Smile.  Keep your heads up portable guys!!

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Posted By: Ed Valentine
Date Posted: 15/November/2007 at 10:29am
".....And yes you are right that it will be harder for a portable user to obtain and sustain a carpet cleaning business than it will be for a truckmount user."
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Respectfully; In "generic terms" that statement could be correct. Then again, there are "alot of proven variables" to discredit it too.


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Posted By: Ream57
Date Posted: 15/November/2007 at 10:54am
Gotta start somewhere though, right!?! Steering Its just a means to an end.  The portable being the means Carpet Cleaner and the truckmount being the end.Golfing Good Day guys, signing out, gotta hotel customer to go WOW.

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Posted By: STEAMPRO
Date Posted: 15/November/2007 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by Ream57 Ream57 wrote:

CF, First of all it is very obvious they we can both say that a truckmount can outperform a portable , that is not the issue.  And yes you are right that it will be harder for a portable user to obtain and sustain a carpet cleaning business than it will be for a truckmount user. And of course like I stated previously I would rather own a truckmount than a portable.  WHO WOULDN'T?  But for those of us that are starting are business or are not in the point in our business's where we can afford a truckmount, there still is hope.  Just like when you started off you owned a portable, maybe multiple portables.  WHY...because at that point in your business you were looking for what was more cost effective so that your business could survive until your customer base was big enough to where you could justify purchasing a truckmount.  And thats all I'm saying... You shouldn't SLAM others that are not at that point in their game yet.  Why not let them know about how you made it through your trenchs with the portable.  All I'm trying to do is offer hope for those starting off because more than likely it is rough for them right now, like it is for me, but I'm making it and WOWING my customers all the way to the bank while doing it or should I say WOWING them all the way to the truckmount Wink.  And as far as making it goes I just landed a contract with Best Western hotel for 109 rooms yesterday Money Smile.  Keep your heads up portable guys!!
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Posted By: DeepScrub
Date Posted: 16/November/2007 at 1:29am
Originally posted by Ream57 Ream57 wrote:

CF, First of all it is very obvious they we can both say that a truckmount can outperform a portable , that is not the issue.  And yes you are right that it will be harder for a portable user to obtain and sustain a carpet cleaning business than it will be for a truckmount user. And of course like I stated previously I would rather own a truckmount than a portable.  WHO WOULDN'T?  But for those of us that are starting are business or are not in the point in our business's where we can afford a truckmount, there still is hope.  Just like when you started off you owned a portable, maybe multiple portables.  WHY...because at that point in your business you were looking for what was more cost effective so that your business could survive until your customer base was big enough to where you could justify purchasing a truckmount.  And thats all I'm saying... You shouldn't SLAM others that are not at that point in their game yet.  Why not let them know about how you made it through your trenchs with the portable.  All I'm trying to do is offer hope for those starting off because more than likely it is rough for them right now, like it is for me, but I'm making it and WOWING my customers all the way to the bank while doing it or should I say WOWING them all the way to the truckmount [IMG]height=17 alt=Wink src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>.  And as far as making it goes I just landed a contract with Best Western hotel for 109 rooms yesterday [IMG]height=18 alt="Money Smile" src="http://www.kleenkuip.com/forum/smileys/smilesmoney.gif" width=18 align=absMiddle>.  Keep your heads up portable guys!!
Thanks for the advice that will help me on my job in the morning.You are right we have to start somewhere! of course TM are a lot better than portables but like you said who can afford one if you are just starting out.
    

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/November/2007 at 8:40am
If any of you haven't gotten started yet and want a TM later is buy the lowest priced portable.. $695 for a 10gal. Timbucktoo at Uncle Sams Distributing.. That other 2k put in the bank Toward the TM.. You'll be glad you did.. Big smile I was a fool for spending about $2500 I had saved toward a TM and bought a portable that advertised 200' hose runs..LOL It served its purpose but even 75' was a disappointment on most carpet types..


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 27/December/2007 at 10:35pm
Switched back to Rotary Shampoo and use the porty for extracting of stain treatments, tile and grout or where I want to offer clear water rinsing.  Since the shampoo is a 7 ph no need to neutralize.  No need for a TM, not interested in fire/water damage jobs.

Contrary to the rumors, shampoo doesn't leave behind residue.  Polymer technology made sure of that. 


Posted By: bubbula
Date Posted: 28/December/2007 at 1:46am
    got some news fer ya sport...14 years...I run 7 trucks now...all w/ porties....and ya know what?? in 14 years not ONE re-do...not one!!


Posted By: bubbula
Date Posted: 29/December/2007 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by ChemicallyFried ChemicallyFried wrote:

Lets get to reality.  No customer base will be built with portables.  Your customers are not stupid.  They want an upscale cleaning.  Lets all hit reality now. I have run portables and tm, and you will get NO respect or repeat business on portables.  Truck mounts I am banging down a whore business worthy of a gamer.  Its fun. 


So to any dumb ass who thinks they will succeed with a portable, I say nothing.  Go for it. I wish you the best.  FOOL! 


    


Posted By: bubbula
Date Posted: 29/December/2007 at 11:12pm
    got news for ya sport..14 years..I run 7 trucks.6 days a week.all with portiesand get this..NEVER A REDO..it's not the porty..it's the guy behind the wand !


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/December/2007 at 11:14pm
Banana Dance    that's good man..   Banana Dance


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 1:57am
Originally posted by bubbula bubbula wrote:

    got news for ya sport..14 years..I run 7 trucks.6 days a week.all with portiesand get this..NEVER A REDO..it's not the porty..it's the guy behind the wand !


I like to say every system is both the best and the worst.  It all comes down to technician over technique. 

I believe the people at IICRC think it is the other way around.  Of course, they don't clean carpets which sorta makes their opinions shallow, lacking substance.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 02/January/2008 at 10:17pm
I couldn't agree with you more

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Posted By: PRECISION
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 3:25am
I use a storm chaser portable and run a 300 dollar average ....per job,  but maybe i'm a special breed????  A truck mount is good to have but it's all about how good the tech is..period. 


Posted By: PRECISION
Date Posted: 03/January/2008 at 3:29am
Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

I couldn't agree with you more



Hey i am a firm believer of the bait and switch :)  i love it.....it has made me thousands.....this goes out to all you product knowledge geeks who can't pay their light bill   lol lol lol 


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 14/January/2008 at 1:30am
Clown


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 16/January/2008 at 12:42am
My understanding of Bait and Switch is that if you advertise a product you don't have and then sell the customer on what you do have, that is illegal.  Yet, if I get this right, if a company advertising something they do have (or have the ability to perform in our case) and move the customer to a better product or service with more power and features, that is not illegal but is referred to up-selling.  But I am not a lawyer.  I just heard that somewhere.



Posted By: PRECISION
Date Posted: 17/January/2008 at 9:48pm
ahhhhgggg take em deep ....you dork


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 17/January/2008 at 10:30pm
Precision, who are you calling a dork in this thread?


Posted By: PRECISION
Date Posted: 21/January/2008 at 9:27am
You....grow some nuts


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 21/January/2008 at 11:49am
It's illegal to speed but we all do it.. LOL


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 21/January/2008 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by PRECISION PRECISION wrote:

You....grow some nuts


Just tell us one thing....are you old enough to drive prickcision?



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