So do you think your supplier is going to be fair?
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Topic: So do you think your supplier is going to be fair?
Posted By: pilediver
Subject: So do you think your supplier is going to be fair?
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 3:44am
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The exchange rate is on par or close to it. So are you going to stand for rip-off pricing from your local disty?
Do you ask them why they charge and extra 25% to 50% over the American retail price? Ask your supplier if he intends on matching the prices on the other side of the border. Even with the exchange calculated many Canadian suppliers have been taking advantage of us for years. If you look at the selling price in the US the Canadian prices are often $40% higher. It seems that some of the suppliers think we can’t understand basic freight and brokerage costs and exchange like it is to complicated for us dumb cleaners to figure out. Most of my stuff comes from down south now and it will until these local suppliers figure out they need me one hell of a lot more than I need them. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 7:28am
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It won't happen any time soon ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 8:28am
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it just off sets the shipping cost....shipping cost have gone way up since the price of gas has been near 1 buck.
Yes our buying power is better but the cost to get it here has gone way up. Most trucking companies call it a gas cer-tax(spelling?) in the end we save nothing ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 9:57am
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maybe for chems but for parts and equipment it can be a drain ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 11:55am
Freight on chemicals is a killer. A lot of suppliers will ship free if you buy $300 or more  ------------- 
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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 8:35pm
Just keep buying your stuff from the US and tell everybody you know to do the same thing. Then the guy who was a distributor in your city will go on welfare and you'll be plenty happy.
The only reason you don't trut the guy is because you yourself are probably not trustworthy. ps. I also think it depends on where you live and where the products come from..DUH ---- freight is a bitch ---- A case of chems is around 40LBS right? check the freight on that from Halifax to Vancouver!
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pilediver wrote:Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 10:15pm
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Mr.Steamer.. Did I read that right? Your gas is almost $1gal.??
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Posted By: FriendlyHammer
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 11:08pm
| People who sell on the Internet are generally cheaper. That's because they're selling to people who can easily do research with little investment of time. Most of those companies are South of the border. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/September/2007 at 11:38pm
$1.00/liter works out to about $3.78 for a US gallon  -------------
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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:24am
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I prefer to build relationships with distributors, mechanics, repair people etc (not just for carpet cleaning)...that way when I really need them they know who I am and are there for me.
I don't get gouged on any of my chems or parts anyway. Sure I could find it $5.00 cheaper but also $5 more too. My own customers could say the same thing. They don't use me on price alone! ------------- 
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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:26am
What if the guy bought those chems, wands, parts six months ago?
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Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 2:43pm
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How many of you guys pay your supplier on time, or do you hang him out til the next time you need products. Let me guess!!!!!!! Being a distributor is not all that profitable, the most money to be made in this business is you the cleaners. ------------- DON ELDRED YOU CAN "STAND" ON OUR REPUTATION |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 4:27pm
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Pilediver,
Yes, Steamer is correct as the additional freight cost have gone through the roof. I am pondering on what KK will do with chem pricing. But the GOOD NEWS is KK will be offering a discounted U.S. adjustment on any http://www.kleenkuip.com/portables/esteam_ninja.htm - Ninja carpet cleaning machine until further notice and TM sales will be adjusted next.
P.S.
Yes, we all know it is also costlier to do business in Canada compared to the U.S.A. ------------- Kleen Kuip Supply Mart Inc. http://www.kleenkuip.com - New & Used Professional Carpet Cleaning Machines, Restoration Equipment, Training, Service and Supplies |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 4:43pm
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The used market is going to take a s*it kicking with the american $ good for shoppers not so good for distys with inventory ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 4:45pm
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P.S. again...
If your supplier adjusts his/her pricing downward how many carpet cleaners will pass the savings on to their customers?
Now, think about that one before you answer.
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 5:29pm
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What took you so long ? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 6:11pm
Actually I was thinking about doubling my prices  -------------
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 7:26pm
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 8:18pm
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Nasty ! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 8:40pm
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Adjusting the price for a slightly higher shipping price is understandable. So is adjusting a price for cost of brokerage (either done internally or through a broker) but it doesn't account for 25 to 40% difference in pricing. Those that are doing that don't deserve my business. And I certainly don't support a business that can't be depended upon to fix my equipment correctly.
Ted is an honest businessman. When I look at the price Ted charges for juice compared to my local distributor it is clear that I am being ripped off locally. If I can't depend on my local distributor for fair pricing or good maintenance or service what possible point do I have in dealing with them? I have found alternatives locally for repair and maintenance that are far more competent that I can depend on. As far as what I charge for my services I offer excellent value in a competitive marketplace. And that is all I am expecting, but not receiving, from my local distributor. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:03pm
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If I charge much less I will be paying them. I am a good deal at twice the price?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:15pm
We all strive to stay in the black ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:34pm
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I try to stay white myself??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:39pm
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staying in the black keeps you white naturally... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 9:46pm
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Steamer, I think you misunderstand me. Ted's alright! My local guy is a ripoff. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:13pm
Don't you have more than one local guy?  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:17pm
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Nope
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:18pm
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Maybe that's why he's a little arrogant -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:20pm
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you local guy isn't getting rich either PD...LOL Chemicals are a very low part of our costs...so whats the big deal...so I've been told ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:33pm
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46 bucks for a gallon of Ultrapac???????????Jon-Don price 15.33
A $7000 bill for a blower replacement that didn't need to be replaced? With one month down time? A manager that laughs at me for seeking and receiving advice from the bulletin boards? Tried to sell me a Ninja 150 with heat for $3200 when all the rest of the dealers were at the same time in Canada charging $2300? Tried to sell me a waterclaw for $1100? Jon-Don price $495.00 You mean that distributor I should support? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/September/2007 at 10:38pm
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I think I paid 42.00 for Ultrapac last September at Fibreclean
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Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 12:17am
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your guy bought his water claw from jon don LOL -------------
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 1:35am
He's looking for early retirement
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 5:50pm
give me this...gimmy that??? then you sh*t yourself when you get the bill. I always ask! HOW MUCH?? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 5:58pm
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I did ask how much but in my first year I stayed on the straight and narrow for products I used. The truck problem was just a three ring circus.
Here's an example for you to follow. YOu are 100 miles from the nearest transmission shop and your tranny goes. So you take your truck to the one and only transmission shop within 100 miles and they put the truck up on the hoist and have to fix it 4 times for you before your truck runs right and in the end they decide the hell with it they can't figure it out after swapping out every moving part on the driveline and still can't get it to run right so they decide to throw in a new transmission. And when you do get it back you find out that they turned down the trottle on your truck so it doesn't have the power it is supposed to have just in case they really didn't find the problem so it won't happen again. Now you get the bill and it is $7000. Oh and by the way they had the truck for a month for all but 3 jobs. It only did three jobs because it broke down after each job. Don't forget that the closest transmission shop is 100 miles away and you don't have another truck to use. Now what the hell would you have done? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 6:04pm
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Hey Splook, I did't buy my waterclaw from them I bought it from Magicwandco. And d**khead where do you get off saying I'm not trustworthy. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 7:03pm
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well aint that a bitch...you got ripped ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 8:36pm
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Big time. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 9:08pm
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Look corn-hole-driver the reason you don't trust people is because you are not trustworthy yourself.
To solve your problem look inward not outward. |
Posted By: splash_$$$_dash
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 9:10pm
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What idiot would live 100 miles from a tranny shop?
If I lived that far from a car repair shop I would not own a car. And if I lived 100 miles from a truck mount repair guy I woulg go out and buy 5 Ninjas a say f**koff to any truck mount. Remember a truck mount is like a Harley if you can't fix it yourself DO NOT BUY ONE!
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 10:49pm
We all live and learn. Truckmount repairs are at least 400 miles from me so I learned (with a little help from some local trades) to repair them myself.  -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 11:11pm
Cleanco tried to give me the shaft ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/September/2007 at 11:37pm
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$1700 for a shaft is the shaft. You can have one made locally for $250-$400 -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/September/2007 at 1:09am
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it was more $3300 ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/September/2007 at 1:10am
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and they told ted not to sell it to me...unless he installed it ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 26/September/2007 at 2:11am
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I guess they figure you can't install one -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 26/September/2007 at 10:26pm
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The truck I am currently building I will fix myself. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 27/September/2007 at 12:19am
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That's the only way to do it -------------
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