Pre-spray
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Topic: Pre-spray
Posted By: toolman
Subject: Pre-spray
Date Posted: 14/March/2007 at 9:00pm
| Hi guys.. I was wondering what equipment is used for pre-spraying? |
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Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 14/March/2007 at 10:01pm
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I use the Hydro-force.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 14/March/2007 at 10:15pm
Same here  ------------- 
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Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 14/March/2007 at 10:21pm
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We use portables so dont use hydroforce.
pump ups are crap unless you spend over $100 electric are good like the sprayway $350 ish. by the way, how much does a HF go for? |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 14/March/2007 at 10:24pm
The knock offs are $125.00  -------------
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Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 1:48am
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I got the ajustable Hydro for $140.
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Posted By: toolman
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 7:27am
| Ok guys I am a little confused here.First what is hydro force and where do you buy it? |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 8:50am
| i dont think you can use a HF with a portable extractor. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 1:20pm
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HF makes a brand of porty ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 1:58pm
| $15 pumpup... Will that electric last 25 years....???? If you enjoy touching a HOT quick-disconnect go with the others... |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 2:15pm
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PUMPUP break down on the job and dont spray properly, even or fast enough.
pumpers are for the cheap Amateurs. I don't go into a house or office with Home Depot tools. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 2:17pm
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99% Of pump-up sprayers are made to ONLY spray water.
Make damn sure your pumper has viton seals or NO GOOD for spraying the money maker "GARD" |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 4:17pm
And the others don't break down? Please, The ones i use spray very properly.. Nice spray pattern. Opinions vary on the cheap A's.. After 20yrs in this biz, that I sure am not..
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Ken_Is_OK wrote:Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 4:40pm
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Well then tell us the brand and where you get them.
After 21 years I still don't go to a job with tools that my customer has in his garage. Image is important in Oakville, Rosedale and Forest Hill |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 5:22pm
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The metal one from Home Depot is good enough.....why spend more than $50 bucks.....I've had the same two for years.... if it gets clogged with gard you just clean it out...whats the problem.
it's nice ...it's stainless.. it's professional
Those high end customers are blind...they have never even been to a homedepot...they don't do anything around the hose...they HIRE and PAY thats what they do...
if you walk in with a rolex watch they would quicker recognize that before they would your pump sprayer ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 5:25pm
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diddo Mr.Steamer... Image, I've had many Clients say "What a beautiful rig you have".. Now that's Image.. never anything about my pumpup... |
Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 5:34pm
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Dont underestimate the consumer Steamer. Theyre smarter than you think. And I bet you that they HAVE been into Home Depot at least a couple of times. ------------- I'll make you TAP OUT!!! |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 6:35pm
And they were looking for a pump up sprayer like you were using..
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 6:38pm
And they're gonna use it with the porty they rented from HD and do a better job than you  -------------
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 8:40pm
| OH YEAH !!!! and were all going out of bizness |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 15/March/2007 at 9:19pm
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you guys worry to much.....most customers are very unaware...
even though they ask you if your coming with a truckmount, when you get there they show you the sink...when you bring out your lead hose in they show you the central vac outlet...and no matter how many times they have had it done, they always ask how long will it take to dry....
reading customer is part of the job.....I know what they will say before they say it ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 8:37pm
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For my portable work with my Ninja 150 I use a hydroforce designed for portables. It has no flexible hose to the spray handle. The spray handle is built into the top of the Hydroforce. It works ok but not as well as a regular Hydroforce but better than a pump up.
Check out the Revolution Low Pressure Sprayer http://www.hydroforce.com/spray_inj.html ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 10:25pm
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I've used my hydro force with my 500 psi porty NP...
but I found it a waste of time...just throw the soap in the tank...you aint going to get a good job out of a porty anyways... just soap paint the carpet ... ride the trigger hard and leaver her wet....LOL ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 10:28pm
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hack ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 10:37pm
You know it  -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 11:52pm
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thats why I don't do porty work....
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 11:55pm
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I believe in portys.. porty potties at the fair...
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/March/2007 at 11:59pm
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We have used ours 3 times in 6 months only in places we can't access with our tm's -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:02am
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I never touch my porty ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:05am
15 floors up a winding stairwell will convince you to use a porty. Probably take 350 ft to do the stairs  -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:08am
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that job is not for me
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:10am
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Me neither. That's why I send my techs -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:12am
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I don't trust anyone....hate to get call backs...
I hate training people.....my moves are special ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:15am
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My techs are pretty good. They just need to get a little better at pre conditioning the custy -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:18am
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smile more smiling....oh yeah smell good too ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:20am
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Nope, no problems there. Undersell and overdeliver is where they lack -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:22am
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yeah but sometimes if you under sell the customer thinks you have no confedence.... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:24am
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Not like that. Just pointing out things like wear in traffic lanes -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:27am
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do you have 2 man crews? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:30am
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Yup. I have a two person crew and I work myself right now on the other truck. Need a partner soon before it get's too busy -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:34am
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2 man is sweet.....one does the cleaning the other flirts with the customer to get more cleaning out of her ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:37am
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I need my crew to upsell. They do very little right now. -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:44am
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incentives work well...
tell them not to go for the gard... the deo is where the money is at...sell at 50% here's the sure fire line.... "do you know what you need, that you didn't put on the order????" Customer "whats that" "you need to get this carpet deo-dis'd...you don't want the carpets to produce a smell after cleaning" works everytime ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:46am
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I'll tell them to try that -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:48am
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don't sell it...tell them that they need it....kills 99.9% of all house hold germs.
and helps my bottom line... I hardly sell gard...but I sell a lot of deo ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:50am
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I want them to sell both. Which deo are you using? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:53am
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Remon ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:54am
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I use odor out....like a meadow fresh scent...
sell gard at 100% and then give deo free... deo is the first step.....only sell gard after you have sold the deo.... the customer feels great...when they get the deo free ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:55am
Who makes odor out?  -------------
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:56am
WTF is that? -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:57am
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private label for Ken at Cosway Cleaning ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:59am
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Coswaytoomuch ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:00am
How much? What dilution? -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:01am
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I'd have to go look at the bottle....
20 buck per bottle 4oz per gallon is how I use it ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:09am
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Good profit -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:10am
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measue everything....no free pouring allowed you'll find chems last way longer ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:13am
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We use mostly powders so they get scooped -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:17am
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I don't like powder anymore...except for Haitian....hydro force never gets clogged with liquids...but powders are a pain in the ass if you don't mix them out good enough ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:21am
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We only seem to have a problem with EnzAll -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:28am
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been using powder all my years...just started to try liquids...I find liquids way better ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:31am
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I think powders work better. I used to use liquids -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:34am
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wow....bizzare....
powders last....because you scoop them... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:36am
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2 oz scoop. Exact measurement -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:40am
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8lb bottle goes along way ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:45am
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6 to 8 scoops in the HF -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:46am
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man you have posting stamina ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:47am
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I gotta go to bed soon -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:49am
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go....so do I..got to get up at 7 ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:51am
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Not me. sleep til 8:30 tomorrow -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:53am
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I'm use to lack of sleep ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:54am
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6 hours is good -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 1:58am
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none sometimes ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 2:00am
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That's not quite enough -------------
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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 9:11am
| send me or sub me your porty work. |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:15pm
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I could refer you if you want Ken...LOL ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 12:30pm
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I'll sub you my porty work -------------
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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 4:39pm
| LOL are you on Kenora or something? |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 4:52pm
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I get a few porty jobs...which I turn down ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 5:00pm
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Thunder Bay -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 5:01pm
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Another cleaner sent me a porty job because he didn't have one. I drive across town and roll everything in high rise apartment and she asks how much for 1 BR appartment. I said $125 she said oh my god! $120!! I said yes and that was very fair and I was recogmended because of my quality work.
"The guy who normally does it charges $60...." Why didn't you call him. "His number is disconnected....I can go rent a machine and do it." Yes you can but by the time you get it and buy the solution it might not be worth it. "Yes and the carpets stay wet for a couple of days" Well I am sorry for the misunderstanding and I will be on my way now. No problem. "Gee that sounds like a lot. Can you do it for less?" Sorry, that's why you can't get hold of your last cleaner. They went out of business for not charging enough. I think she didn't ask for a quote on the phone because she was expecting me to cave to her price rather than leave without any money. -WRONG! ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 5:31pm
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You should have agreed to her price, sprayed her carpet with water and left -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/March/2007 at 7:28pm
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She was recogmended by a carpet cleaner friend. She goes to church with him. Didn't want to make any waves. The guy is Ron who owns that Inspriration 59 truck. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 12:45am
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You need more referrals like that -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 1:36am
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He has give me lots of good referals for high dollars. She was just a little off on her perception of us. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 9:47am
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You misled her -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 11:11am
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did you? ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 12:22pm
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Yeah right, what time would you like me there for? Was my only remark for her. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 12:44pm
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That was misleading cuz you really wanted to pick the time -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 7:05pm
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never time ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 8:29pm
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You shoulda told her that -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 9:05pm
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I was ambushed! ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/March/2007 at 9:06pm
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We've heard that before -------------
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