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Forum Name: Encapsulation, Very Low Moisture, Oscillating Pad Cleaning
Forum Description: Discuss anything relating to very low moisture, encap and oscillating pad cleaning
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Topic: Padding Job Pics
Posted By: PadMan
Subject: Padding Job Pics
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 11:12am
1 Gallon RTU Whamm with Z-bomb
$124.00
60 Minutes
White Nylon plush
11 Combo Pads





























































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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 2:11pm
Good job. You definitely prove that padding works well

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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 3:43pm
The last picture shows wand strokes, do you pad first then wand ?


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 4:30pm
The last picture shows VACUUM marks, no wands on any of my jobs.   LOL

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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 4:58pm
who really cares


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 5:04pm
    Why are you so sour Mr. Cleen?

Having a problem getting the carpets clean with a rotary?

That is no reason to slam others here.

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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 5:05pm
they started slamming me first

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it aint the steam that gets it clean


Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 5:09pm
and what happend to my freind rick james on the blue board?

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it aint the steam that gets it clean


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 5:45pm
    He is posting his little heart out over there.

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 10:40pm
   Hey Padman....WOW!...great job! I may need to try one of those OP machines.

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 10:49pm
Nice job PadMan!

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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 11:12pm
    i love you guys

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it aint the steam that gets it clean


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 7:27am
    We FEEL the love...LOL

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:30am
Hey Padman...If you were going to have just one of the machines you make...which one would you choose? What pads do you find best overall...it looks like there's lot's of different ones out there.   

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Posted By: tomh
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:44am
John, great work! by the way, you never slam , take the log out of your eye.
 
 Aris, here at kleenkuip they have a good selection of machines and can advise you on any kind of equipment that would work in your line of cleaning you do.
 
  HOS  
 
  Tom H.


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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 11:32am
Thanks Tom...Are you the maker of the HOS?

Padman claims that his sytem oscilates 40% faster than your system...because of thsi his system is faster and cleaners better. What are your comments regarding this claim?

Just trying to figure out the best system for me.

Thanks

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 5:46pm
Yep Tom is involved in the Hruby, the ones who copied our blue machine and now has come out with a new one.
 
You are correct CleanEvo, our competitors do not build High Speed Oscillators and clean much slower.
 
Seems Tom thinks I stepped on his toes here, I guess he doesn't know I have been a poster here on Kleenkuip since its conception.


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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 7:42pm
well he's selling the machines way way less that you are Padman...
 
easy sell.....
 
I myself bought a cimex :)


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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 8:27pm
With 40% less oscillation, they SHOULD be a lot cheaper, think about it, 40% more oscillation works out to more than 1/2 again as much carpet cleaned in the same time span. I could make more at .20 cents a foot than they could at .30 cents a foot.

Or instead of a 400 dollar day, I can do over 600 dollars in the same time.

Everyone gets what they pay for in this business.

So hom many days work does it take to make up the little difference in the price of the machines?

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:30pm
    Thanks Padman...I'm trying one of your machines later this month with Con...looking forward to it...if it works as well as he says...you can expect another order.

Also, in regards to the question above...If you had just one OP machine to use...which would it be, Conqueror, Breeze or Brute?
    

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Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 9:59pm
For $7,000...I rather get a decent used Truckmount than JOhn's "BUsiness package".

Im speakin from experience....I have both a TM and John's Business package. SO, This is just my Opinion.




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Posted By: BonnetMan
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 10:02pm
The pictures speak for themselves. How come HWE guys never post pics?


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 10:04pm
Originally posted by PadMan PadMan wrote:

With 40% less oscillation, they SHOULD be a lot cheaper, think about it, 40% more oscillation works out to more than 1/2 again as much carpet cleaned in the same time span. I could make more at .20 cents a foot than they could at .30 cents a foot.

Or instead of a 400 dollar day, I can do over 600 dollars in the same time.

Everyone gets what they pay for in this business.

So hom many days work does it take to make up the little difference in the price of the machines?
Padman...your machine would be Ideal..if you could work 100% of the time... But most companies only run at 15 to 20% 

an hour here or there doesn't really matter as long as you get paid.
 
it really makes no difference unless you business is so busy you're getting over run
 
if we both have $400 jobs and it's the only job we both have for the day....If I spend an hour more big deal


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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 07/March/2007 at 11:32pm
    Most of us padders are WAY to busy to just fart around, 4-6 homes a day and large commercial jobs.



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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 12:48am
that sure is alot of laundry...LOL

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Posted By: tomh
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 1:22am
John,
      
       ClapSlam again and again....... Did you no that CCS and Rite-way carpet cleaning started together in 1974. Ask your dad if you can't remmmberrrr!!!. How can two family business start together with ten O.P. machines each, and one of the business is copying the other? John you need to do RESEARCH before you start talking about thing you have no clue about. John, you will never hear a bad thing about you or your company from me or my son on any board. We will always respect any business and your business also and the success you have had. Your dad is one of the GREAT ONES IN THIS BUSINESS and so are you, but I will correct you when you step out of line in what you are saying about us and any other company. I hope you will do the same if we step out of line. Correction JohnDead We are not the SLOW HRUBY,THAT'S BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!
 
Clean Eve answer to your question:  John has a good point on oscillation, not enough oscillation or oribtal would not clean as good and with more oscillation, it would do a better job. If you have to much oscillation it could be to aggressive and could damage the carpet. John please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
         Tom H.
 
 
   


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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 8:48am

Padman doesn't build the machines anyway.....I'm sure if someone was going to copy it they would take apart the machine bolt by bolt.  Padman thinks he has something magic in his units.  ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING CAN BE COPIED



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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 9:21am
John,
       
       Slam again and again....... Did you no that CCS and Rite-way carpet cleaning started together in 1974. Ask your dad if you can't remmmberrrr!!!. How can two family business start together with ten O.P. machines each, and one of the business is copying the other?


SLAM? Facts are slamming? Those 10 machines didn't work until they were rebuilt, they couldn't do the job, they broke down over and over and we got an aircraft machinist to build parts for us. We took an idea and built a machine from it, sure several parts stayed the same, but we didn't copy anything.

   John you need to do RESEARCH before you start talking about thing you have no clue about. John, you will never hear a bad thing about you or your company from me or my son on any board. We will always respect any business and your business also and the success you have had. Your dad is one of the GREAT ONES IN THIS BUSINESS and so are you, but I will correct you when you step out of line in what you are saying about us and any other company. I hope you will do the same if we step out of line.

Now tell everyone you didn't COPY the blue machine.!

Correction John We are not the SLOW HRUBY,THAT'S BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AGO. PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!

I have done it, and larger diameters helps, but bigger motors do not a faster machine make.


Clean Eve answer to your question: John has a good point on oscillation, not enough oscillation or oribtal would not clean as good and with more oscillation, it would do a better job. If you have to much oscillation it could be to aggressive and could damage the carpet. John please correct me if I'm wrong.


More oscillation is EASIER on the carpet, and faster cleaning, now tell me why that is so, Tom.
       
What you see as slamming, I see as correcting the huge misconceptions and downright lies many have told about the workings of OP machines.

I have not disrespected you or your son, but I have put the facts out there Tom.

I do now have my machines built for me, I did it myself for many years, I still work on designing them though and the machines built for us are for our standards and specifications.
    

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 12:09pm

You can always see when padman gets on the defensive....LOL He starts break you down point by point.

 
Padman relax....I know you want to sell your machines....but I don't think the clean has anything to do with your machines...It's all you
 
you Padman make the magic...I love your work and the passion you put into it.
 
they can build it, but no one can make it work like you.


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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 3:34pm
Actually Steemer, I thank you for the compliment, but have to disagree. You have to understand oscillation to determine if it is ME or the MACHINE.

I am MUCH slower with the old oscillation than I am with the new, but I am in the biz to make money, the more per hour the less I have to work... LOL

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 3:35pm
I do have a bad habit of nailing things down though..   

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 4:05pm
Padman even if we hall all the ingredients that you put into your soup....we couldn't clean like you.
 
I know you post these great pictures.....but I've seen op done with your pad machine and it didn't look like that.


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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 4:34pm
It SHOULD, there is nothing difficult about it, of course people would do well to use the same pads and cleaner as I do, that would give them the SAME results.

Problem is so often people try to save a buck and use different types of pads and cheaper products and expect to get the same results. In HWE that doesn't work, same with OP.

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 5:25pm
I've trained a few people...some have the touch...some don't...
 
you have the touch sir...
 
I know you know that


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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 6:16pm
 
 Aris, here at kleenkuip they have a good selection of machines and can advise you on any kind of equipment that would work in your line of cleaning you do.
 
  HOS  
 
  Tom H.
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Thanks Tom
 
I appreciate you taking care of our potential Canadian customers. Kleen Kuip has had great success with your equipment and our customers are very happy.


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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 08/March/2007 at 9:05pm


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 09/March/2007 at 2:46am
tinypic.com

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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 09/March/2007 at 8:40pm



Here is you HWE pic's
that you say no one post.  Not against bonnet cleaning but just think it leaves lots of chemical in the carpet.  I also heard those chemicals you were using are very harmful, but its your life.


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 09/March/2007 at 9:36pm
Nothing wrong with HWE, but your misconceptions about VLM is glaring.

We use an encap product called WHAMM that actually vacuums out plus it is NOT harmful in anyway.

So, my guess is you are leaving more product behind than you are.

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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 09/March/2007 at 9:55pm
First of all you can tell me that you are removing 100% of the product.  The product gets into the pores of the fiber which even if the product crystallizes you won't be removing. 

Let me ask you this would you put that stuff in you hair, rub it around and vacuum it off?  Using soap and water you are probably leaving product still in your hair.

Again this type of cleaning is not good for you or you customers.  
1 Z-Bomb MSDS
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Material Safety Data Sheet
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CHEMICAL PRODUCT/COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
_____________________________________________________________________________
Material Identification
Product Usage: Traffic lane cleaner for use by professional carpet cleaners.
Company Identification
MANUFACTURER/DISTRIBUTOR
The Cleaner Image
1037 Lakeview Drive
Nashville, TN 37076
PHONE NUMBER
615-449-6881
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COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
_____________________________________________________________________________
Proprietary mixture containing in part:
CHEMICAL CAS NUMBER PERCENT
2-BUTOXYETHANOL 111-76-2 <4
_____________________________________________________________________________
HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
_____________________________________________________________________________
*************EMERGENCY OVERVIEW*****************
* May be irritating to eyes and skin. Liquid. *
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Potential Health Effects:
EYE: May be eye irritant.
SKIN: May cause irritation.
INGESTION: May cause irritation to gastrointestinal tract.
INHALATION: Vapors may irritate respiratory tract.
CHRONIC (CANCER) INFORMATION: Contains minor quantity of ingredient which is
2 Z-Bomb MSDS
listed as carcinogenic to animals.
TERATOLOGY (BIRTH DEFECT) INFORMATION: Contains minor quantity of mutagenic ingredient.
REPRODUCTIVE INFORMATION: Contains minor quantity of reproductive toxin.
_____________________________________________________________________________
FIRST AID MEASURES
_____________________________________________________________________________
INHALATION: If inhaled, remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give
artificial respiration. If breathing is difficult, give oxygen. Call a
physician.
SKIN CONTACT: In case of contact wash skin with soap and water.
Wash contaminated clothing before reuse.
EYE CONTACT: In case of contact, immediately flush eyes with plenty of water
for at least 15 minutes. Call a physician.
INGESTION: If swallowed induce vomiting. Never give anything by mouth to an
unconscious person. Call a physician.
_____________________________________________________________________________


Yep looks real safe as long as you don't open the container. Hope you clean with body suit and mask.Dead


Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 09/March/2007 at 11:41pm
ROFLMAO, what a scare mongerer...LOL

Notice the dilutions, in a WHOLE day I didn't use 6 oz or Z/bomb. That is over THREE houses, and pads picking up the product as you clean.


Being Steve and I both produce this product and being we ALWAYS put ALL the warning possible on ALL of our products, you can say what you want, plus you will see we put the "standard" warnings on ALL our chems.

So lets see, 6 oz, over three homes, each getting lets say 2 oz. and 3% of that is butyl... LOL WOW, careful, your babies are all going to have three eyes.

Also this is put in with 24 oz of whamm, which crystalizes and vacs out, whamm also makes it dry very quickly.


And what did you clean with?



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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 11/March/2007 at 5:42pm
If you say its safe great the msds should also say its safe then.  I'm sure its safe for the environment also.  I'm sure when you vacuum away the chemical you are just tossing the bag or contents in the trash also. I can see your interest in the product your producing it.  Since you are manufacturing these products and I'm sure you are a chemist, not making this stuff in you basement, why not make something whit out toxins.  Do you remember when Lysol changed there formula? The main ingredient orthophenylphenol was removed.  They told people there product was safe in the quantiles that were used.  Again I'm sure you have a big lab and have done extensive testing. 


Posted By: opclean
Date Posted: 11/March/2007 at 10:18pm
Bryan Is that an after pic that you put on here? Just wondering. Thanks

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Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 12:35am
Top if before bottom is after.  The guy was a mechanic.  You should see his stairs.  Here is a closer up pic.



Posted By: BonnetMan
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 1:08am
Sweet pics, Bryan. Looks good.


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 1:10am
RX20's kick ass!

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 1:30am
Hey, that's my carpet

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Posted By: PadMan
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 10:23am
    why not make something whit out toxins.

We do, it is called Abstraction, that is totally formulated without any toxins.



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Posted By: opclean
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 10:37am
Bryan, Did he work on the cars on the carpet? Kinda looks like a couples house i did the other day. Thanks

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