Franchise is only way
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Topic: Franchise is only way
Posted By: ihtemom&popclnr
Subject: Franchise is only way
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 9:40am
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I just bought a a franchise and just wanted to say how great it is and how much i dislike mom and pop cleaners for the fact that they do so much low balling and mess things up for me. ------------- im better than mom and pop guys |
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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:07am
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i agree with you I am looking into buying a franchise myself ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:25am
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Good idea buy a franchise. A franchise is good for the person who knows little or nothing and cannot sell themselves or their services. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: ihtemom&popclnr
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:35am
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OR SOMEONE THAT IS GONNA DO IT THE RIGHT WAY PAL!!! SOON THE ONLY SUCUSESSFUL BUSSINESSES WILL BE FRANCHISES READ UP ON IT IN THE USA TODAY. ------------- im better than mom and pop guys |
Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:42am
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well i know what i am doing i am just looking for a better resale value down the road, I dont have anything against either one ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 11:07am
What happened? Lose your job at WalMart?  ------------- 
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ihtemom&popclnr wrote:Posted By: ihtemom&popclnr
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 11:08am
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WOW I DIDNT KNOW WALMART WASTED THERE TIME IN THE GREAT STATE OF CANADA ------------- im better than mom and pop guys |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:01pm
Why are you wasting your time here?  -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:05pm
I think somebody is brainwashed!  ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:06pm
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Maybe SGG can sell him a glide -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:15pm
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another king of the hill?? In a year he will be back at walmart working the night shift? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:17pm
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Maybe he needs a talking to from Darlene? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:24pm
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If it doesn't change his mind, it will certainly put him to sleep -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 12:26pm
no kidding  ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: ihtemom&popclnr
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 1:04pm
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look im sorry none of you mom and poppers could not afford to do it right.. it aint my fault you had to start out with a grocery store rental machine ------------- im better than mom and pop guys |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 1:21pm
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OK Waldo. Put the pipe away. Vapor Steam Baby -------------
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Posted By: Fiber Sucker
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 4:31pm
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FRANCHISE OWNERS ARE NOTHING BUT GLORIFIED MANAGERS
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 5:04pm
You got that right  -------------
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Posted By: wheelerman
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 6:37pm
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ihtemom&popclnr you are on dope.You just wasted a ton on money you could have spent on better equipment.There are no doubt that there are some businesses that kick ass as a franchise(Tim Hortons) but carpet cleaning is not one of them. I say this from experience, 5 years ago I left the 3rd biggest carpet cleaning franchise in the world and it has done nothing but increased my business and I saved the 7% I had to pay them for nothing. Its not the Franchise that cleaning the carpets in peoples homes its the guy behind the wand, and trust me when I say there are some HUGH non-franshise carpet cleaning businesses out there. You will find in time that all they will do is push you into getting bigger before you are ready because the more you do in gross sales the richer you make them.
BIG BIG mistake bud..... |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 8:00pm
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A man speaking from experience -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 9:50pm
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Look at it this way, with the amound to money he just spent on the franchise for it overpriced equipment and the overpriced crap he has to buy from them and the money that the franchise extorts from him every month for advertising and royalties he won't be around long.
I think he should invest in one of those Tony Robbins courses too. I guess this might be more interesting than his previous job - Assistant Night Manager in charge of French Fries. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 9:58pm
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Joe Polish could really help him too -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:01pm
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Dr. Phil ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 10:17pm
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Can he help anyone? -------------
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Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 11:07pm
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Wow,
Where did this guy come from? I just joined here also but I would NEVER post like that. I guess he has nothing to learn by being here. Why'd did he come here anyway? I love Franchises becuase they rarely know how to clean well and over price themselves from PRIDE and bring more work to me. My advice to this guy is to be quiet, a bit less rude and learn from those who have more experience than him.
Barry
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Posted By: wheelerman
Date Posted: 03/March/2007 at 11:31pm
| He is a "proud new owner of a chem dry franchiess" and when he realizes he will have to compete with the other 400 chem drys in his area we will all get a good laugh from him:) |
Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 11:36am
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i was lokkin into one of those,so i guess they are not the way to go ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 11:54am
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Ya think -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 1:18pm
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Just give us your money that way you don't have to wait a whole year to go broke. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 1:42pm
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We can split it and get new trucks -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 1:44pm
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New truck would be good. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 1:58pm
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For you, definitely -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:08pm
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I almost got a new truck now with all the new parts. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:12pm
The only things that haven't been changed in my Compact are the fresh water tank and the heat exchangers. All since September 2003  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:13pm
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Something go be said about getting an industrial strength TM if there is such a thing. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:16pm
They all break down. Sometimes you just get a lemon or a poorly maintained used unit  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:27pm
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I know mine was maintained before I got it and it still had problems. I guess bad luck also enters into it. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:30pm
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Mine wasn't. That's part of the reason I have had so many problems -------------
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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 2:59pm
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thanks for the eye opener ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:01pm
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I think Johnny Cash wrote a song for PD and Cmaster I think it is called
One Piece At a Time??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:01pm
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What do you need to worry for you just go by another cheap sh*tflinger from Mytee. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:23pm
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why are you all so angry ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:25pm
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I'm not at all angry. I just noticed your avatar was a bonnet process and I was joking. Hope you don't take it the wrong way. Do you have a truckmount? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:27pm
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I have both and i was just playin ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 3:34pm
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So tell us about your tm. The good the bad and the ugly. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 4:41pm
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Just the bad and the ugly please -------------
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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 9:51pm
| cmaster you seem to be a real a hole |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 9:54pm
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That didn't take long?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 10:03pm
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Gee now you hurt cmasters feelings and he's gone away. Please don't be mean to cmaster - he's our friend.
Why don't you stick around more than one day and 10 posts before passing judgement. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 11:46pm
| well when your gonna be an ahole right off the bat i can pretty much judge ones character. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 12:02am
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Relax ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 1:30am
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cmaster if you are an a-hole what is he going to think about me...
Mr. Cleen is out of order...and totally out of line....get a few more posts under your belt before you start insulting the members here.
btw I hope you get a chemdry...why because I like you ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 1:58am
Smart ass.......yes. A hole......no. But thanks for noticing -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 6:37am
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I thought I was the a-hole? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 8:08am
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As long as we know, we can act accordingly -------------
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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 8:16am
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your all a bunch of mom and pop hacks ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 8:26am
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I know you are but what am I? ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 11:59am
Hacks? How would you know? Have we cleaned your carpet? -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 12:04pm
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Check out his profile
His IQ is about the same as his age! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: SRI Cleaning
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 12:16pm
| We are all supposed to be helping each other why is everyone arguing? |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 12:22pm
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No argument here! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 4:11pm
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We don't argue cuz we're right -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 5:48pm
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Besides were all a**holes so what does that make you? We are the a**hole club and we meet here everyday an act like a**holes because we like it. It's good practice so that when we go out in the real world we are prefect a**holes. We are an elite group of master journeyman assoholes. We are also cerified smart asses too.
What are you certified in Mr. Ream? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 6:00pm
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Are you calling us a**holes? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 6:04pm
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Yeah a**hole and your the best one of the bunch. When I grow up I want to be an a**hole just like you only bigger. Steamer's an a**hole too but Mr. Ream is just a pain in the ass. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 6:13pm
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OK. I was just making sure -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 6:36pm
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I know I am a a**hole! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 8:23pm
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No other way to have it. Like Rodney says, I get No Respect. He's so ugly that the other kids wear masks that look like him on Halloween. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 10:04pm
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Hey. They do that to me. Now I know why -------------
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Posted By: MR.CLEEN
Date Posted: 05/March/2007 at 11:54pm
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and a bunch of queers too. franchise is the only way to go ------------- it aint the steam that gets it clean |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 06/March/2007 at 12:06am
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Sure thing Mr.Ream. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 7:58pm
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Mr. Ream came out of the closet at Mikefest. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 11:34pm
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Mr. Clean why do you say franchise is the only way to go? Thats like saying Mexican food it the only way to go. A franchises has its advantage instant creditability, a proven way of doing business that works for the company, and so on. Franchises also have its draw backs such as territory, prices, and the fact that you will never really own it. You will always have someone telling you what you can and cant do. To me this is why owning you business trumps all, for you are truly 100% in control. As far as cost when I looked into it was some time ago but think you could start for as little as 35k down, and they would carry you on the rest. Considering I just spent about 60k on a truck mount and van, and then still have advertising cost. So would say franchise is cheaper unless they start like you say with a grocery store machine and hatch back. You sound very convinced that it is better, may be I don't see what you do, but would like to hear you reasons. Not the stupid reasons like using a grocery rental or franchises do better work, because I take more business away from franchises then smaller businesses. |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 12/March/2007 at 11:38pm
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I bet if you asked 10 guys who owned a franchise in this business for 5 or more years that 7 out of 10 of them wished they never got into a franchise agreement. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: wheelerman
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 3:50pm
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Yup and the guys posting on this board,saying Franchisses are the only way to go will be joining the " I wish I never did that" club right shortly.
Been there done that:( |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 3:55pm
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wheelerman, the guy that started this did so as a barb to get everyone going. Most here understand its probably better to stay away from the franchises. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: bgray22
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 8:53am
| he says mom and pop cleaners are always low balling??? Aren't the big franchises the ones that usually push prices down??? |
Posted By: bryan
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 1:02pm
| Most people pushing price down is the smaller companies. Larger companies can't afford to drop prices. Coit use to be a 2 man truck now down to one. |
Posted By: SRI Cleaning
Date Posted: 23/March/2007 at 2:23pm
| No way! The big cleaners are the ones killing us on the prices! Maybe not chem dry, but everytime I turn around, stamely steamer has the 99 dollar deal. |
Posted By: EmpireMike
Date Posted: 27/March/2007 at 11:24pm
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not all non franchise companies low ball - we compete with lots of franchises in our area and xharge the same or more but offer better service , better cleaning ------------- http://www.empiremagiccarpetcleaners.com - http://www.empiremagiccarpetcleaners.com |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 28/March/2007 at 2:32am
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I think most franchises tend to charge more. I think most ar paying 7% or more to the man. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/March/2007 at 12:17pm
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Chem dry charges a lot but they lack on service
everyone else in the Greater Toronto Area are cheap according to red board status ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: SuperDry
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 9:17am
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Franchise or No Franchise? I worked 7 years for a Chem Dry Franchise and some of the homes we went into would say things like "I heard Chem Dry was bad cuz they use harsh chemicals". Well a lot of people think that. Why? Because it's a well known franchise and yes some good is said of them and some bad, but word spreads. With a franchise, you have to use the equipment and chemicals that they make you use and you have to pay a premium price for them. Your overhead goes up, while your profit goes down. You have to get premium price in order to make a living. Then you have the franchises that decide they want to grow. They don't train their techs like they should, and send em out on their own after two weeks. They don't know what they are doing, do a crap job and make it much nicer for those mom and pops that get to go in and clean up after the inexperience franchise tech. Along with all of that crap to deal with, you have to compete with other franchises that are in your area, then you are starting to make less profit because the franchise down the street will do the job for $10.00 less. The carpet cleaning market is over saturated with franchises. If one franchisee does a horrible job, he just lost you business because you have the same name as him. Think about it.
Mom and pops- Get to use any type of equipment they want. Don't have a ton of overhead. Can spend more time cleaning on one job and be able to talk to the customer and educate them. Don't have to rush from job to job to make a buck. Don't have to pay a lot for cleaning chemicals, and can make a name for themselves that they don't have to pay someone to use. In my opinion, Mom and pops aren't so bad. ------------- http://www.superdrycarpetcleaning.com - Lubbock Texas Carpet Cleaning |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 1:52pm
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Posted By: SuperDry
Date Posted: 31/March/2007 at 11:53pm
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Which part of it did you not understand? ------------- http://www.superdrycarpetcleaning.com - Lubbock Texas Carpet Cleaning |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 12:18am
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Don't have a ton of overhead. I have a ton...office truck payments...salaries...advertising...
Can spend more time cleaning on one job and be able to talk to the customer and educate them. No I want to book at least 5 a day.... Don't have to rush from job to job to make a buck. I want to make money so YES I have to run from job to job. Don't have to pay a lot for cleaning chemicals, If you want chemicals that work you have to pay. Most times franchise products are cheaper and can make a name for themselves that they don't have to pay someone to use. It takes a long time with LOTS of investment ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 12:33am
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SuperDry has to be Kenny ...........................
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 9:10am
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naw I don't think so ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 11:21am
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Me neither -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 1:27pm
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must be him then? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 01/April/2007 at 1:32pm
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That's what I like about MikeysBoard. If someone wants to know they look at his profile. All profiles must be filled out completely. If anyone thinks there is a doubt in that person's profile information an administrator will check him out. If they don't reply the id is nuked. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: ragoul
Date Posted: 08/April/2007 at 4:34pm
| just wondering was it a lot of work 2 get things up and running?? I'm thinking of doing the same thing. please give a tech. some advice. thnks |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 08/April/2007 at 10:36pm
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Advice about.............? -------------
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/April/2007 at 9:36pm
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It's nice being a POP only operator... Just think of "all that" royalty $$$ you have to give up...
 Maybe it won't be "all that"... You might not last..
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