Has anyone tried this stuff?
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Topic: Has anyone tried this stuff?
Posted By: CleanEvo
Subject: Has anyone tried this stuff?
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 10:15pm
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I recently tried a product from a company called Carbonated Solutions...their product is called No Soap and it's a powder that when mixed with water produces a violent carbonation reaction. It works great...anyone else tried it?
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 11:04pm
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Only when I have a bad stomach ache. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 11:15pm
Looks like a Chem Dry copycat 
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 6:15am
Lots and lots of bubbles!  ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 8:15am
| chem dry all the way |
Posted By: jtuseo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 8:21am
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f**k chemdry ------------- WWW.PREFERREDCARPETCLEANING.COM |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:12am
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Go to the ics board and do a search. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:15am
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I hear you guys...but like I said...I've tried it a couple of times and have been pretty impressed with the results...they claim it's all organic (food based) and leaves no chemical residue. I tried it because I got a commercial job that gets done every three months...some ladies who worked on the floor were complaining that they were having reactions to the carpet cleaning chemicals (rashes on their legs after carpet cleaning). I used this stuff and they had nothing but positive feed back and the carpets were cleaner than they'd been in a couple of years.
Has anyone tried anything else that GREEN or ORGANIC that works well? |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:26am
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If you find something you and your customers like who's to tell you any different? Your accountant might not like it though. I bet the carbonated solutions products are expensive RTU.
Today there are plenty of good environmentally safe products that do work well. What were you using that caused the reaction? You might want to look at the DFC Products from Ted of KleenKuip as a viable alternative. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:46pm
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It was the previous cleaner who was using something that was creating the problem. He used Host with some type of pre-spray. Cleaned them every three months that way. I wasn't impressed...One cleaning from me and they were cleaner than they had been in years (according to the customer).
I haven't tried the DFC stuff...do they work well? |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:51pm
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In my personal experience yes they do. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:58pm
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Call Kleen Kuip and request a sample or a discounted gallon to test -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:03pm
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Make sure you let that stuff dwell good. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:22pm
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Like for an hour -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:31pm
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You don't like it. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:01pm
It's OK. The heavy duty is good on restaurants. I prefer my personal blend  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:03pm
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Tafs trashed green ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:06pm
Never tried it. I tried trashed, found it foamy  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:08pm
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Never tried it. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:22pm
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Not likely I will buy from MW again. I used to buy quite a bit from them -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:28pm
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LIke I say I try and support my local guy as much as I can - if I venture out it would be to Greenie for most stuff. I had a problem the one and only time I ordered from MW - it was a total PITA.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:34pm
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Was Taf handling your order? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:38pm
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No his staff. They have three locations. Stuff got lost and never found and the order took almost three weeks to get to Washington. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:09am
I know. Just kidding. The people in Chicago are less than perfect, too. They sold me an RX 20. It arrived damaged and their only solution was to send me a can of paint to touch it up. It would have taken a lot of paint to fill the dent. I never did fix it and they never offered  -------------
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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 7:49am
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DFC works great if the carpet is already clean (very light soil) and you let it dwell for 15-20 minutes.
just sayin. |
Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 7:52am
| DFC stands for doesnt friggin clean. |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:21am
Thanks Pilediver...I'll try it...downtown Calgary is really big on GREEN products so I'm going to experiment with more of them...see what works best. Like I said this Carbonated Solutions No Soap seemed to work well and they recommend that you don't let it dwell as it's most effective when first applied...which is nice...saves some time. I tried it again yesterday at a concrete companies offices...very dirty as you can imagine...worked quite well, however I did agitate with my floor machine before extraction and that always helps a lot no matter what you're using. |
pilediver wrote:Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:28am
Can anyone tell me how to get to the ICS board...I've done a Google search and I get a online college and the Irish Cultural Society...they're not much help 
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:29am
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I usually use Ultrapac Trafficlean for prespray. CleanEvo do you deal with Fibreclean. They sell it but it is one of the most expensive juices out there. Not a green product but it works well. What are you rinsing with? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:35am
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Here's the link to ics
http://www.i-boards.com/ics/ -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:51am
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The problem is not all cleaners work ofr all people? You need to find what works for you? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:52am
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I use some Fibreclean products ....Suspend, Attack...rinse Ultra Release...I haven't tried any of the Prochem products. Fibreclean always makes it more attractive to buy their own line...is the Prochem stuff worth the extra money?
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:53am
Thanks!!
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:00pm
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I have used Pro Chem for years. I have been satisifed with it? The initial price is not the issue? It is dilution ratios dwell times importantly the ingredients. Just don't consider price when shopping for chems. As I said you need what works for you not what someone wants to sell you? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:04pm
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Ultrapac is a good product, but the odour is terrible, even at low dilutions -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:05pm
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True and that probably would turn most sensitive people off. Do you use any scents in your rinse? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:13pm
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Nope. It already has a faint lemon scent -------------
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:13pm
| This is off topic...but I just checked out the ICS board and I find it really not very user friendly. Do you actually have to scroll through every single topic or is there some kind of advanced search feature that I'm just not finding? |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:20pm
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On the main page go to the top, under the banner ad and click on search. Type in DFC in the message field, leave the other fields blank. You should get around 81 matches. Read away -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:23pm
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Listen to this guy, he dare post off topic, well for....... ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:24pm
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He's a thread hijacker. I can't believe it -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:25pm
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I should have said for resturants DFC heavy duty degreaser (this is a carpet prespray) works very well. I have had moderate success with standard I think its called 104 on regular carpets. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:27pm
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We should more carefully control who we let on here. Look at that...just like that he hijacked our thread.
You know that kind of reminds me of the time I was out diving and I saw a Killer Whale jumping around us. Never did see him but we could here him in the water. What an weird sound they make. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:29pm
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I would look at that Magic Wand green stuff and try it. They will give you a sample or a heavily discounted first order. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:32pm
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Its DFC 105. I have a sample that I didn't even try because I heard that it didn't work well at all -------------
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:56pm
I'm a NEWBIE...no board manners developed yet! my appologies 
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:57pm
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We're kidding. We love to hijack -------------
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:59pm
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I forget why I'm on the bonnet op board??
Oh ya...that Carbonated Solutions stuff...they say you can use it with just pre-spray and bonnet...no residue...I did try that and it leaves the carpets a little crusty and when you walk onto a hard floor you can hear the residue sticking to your shoe. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:05pm
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That doesn't sound very good. Resoiling may be an issue -------------
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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:12pm
| Any suggestions for interim cleaning on commercial...I've tired a couple of things with bonnet/buffer combination...works OK...haven't tried the encap products |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:18pm
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By the sounds of things interm encaping followed by HWE every couple of few encaps might be you solution depending on the type of carpet and the type of soiling.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:18pm
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You can try vacaway products or releasit products. Both are good.
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Posted By: opclean
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 6:33pm
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Hate to but in BUT. Cleanevo I do comm accounts and we have great results with snap encap solution. Very economical also. www.orbitec2.com Thanks ------------- Cleaning carpets is like a box of chocolate.You dont know what ya got till ya bite into it. |
Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 9:20am
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Hi, I've tried the No Soap Stuff. I have 3 of their Sprayers. It leaves the carpet Crunchy when it dries. When the Chem Dry patent ran out and this stuff came out. It's expensive to use. To fill a five gallon tank it cost $5.00 or more and You'll use most or all on a 17oo Sq foot job. I don't use it anymore. It's OK but not great. Barry |
Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 9:44am
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Yes it does leave the carpets slightly crunchy, however first vacuum seems to take care of that.
What have you found that works better? ------------- "The best compliment is a referal" |
Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 26/July/2008 at 3:37am
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Vacaway seems to have 2 green solutions, one encap and one for bonnet cleaning of carpets that can be used as a prespray on furniture as well. Good prices too. I will give them a try. ------------- It's ORY GUN, not OR A GONE. Learn to talk. |