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Topic: Has anyone tried this stuff?
Posted By: CleanEvo
Subject: Has anyone tried this stuff?
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 10:15pm
    I recently tried a product from a company called Carbonated Solutions...their product is called No Soap and it's a powder that when mixed with water produces a violent carbonation reaction. It works great...anyone else tried it?




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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 11:04pm
Only when I have a bad stomach ache.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/February/2007 at 11:15pm
Looks like a Chem Dry copycat

Got an MSDS?

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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 6:15am
Lots and lots of bubbles!      

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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 8:15am
chem dry all the way


Posted By: jtuseo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 8:21am
f**k chemdry

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:12am
Go to the ics board and do a search.

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:15am
   I hear you guys...but like I said...I've tried it a couple of times and have been pretty impressed with the results...they claim it's all organic (food based) and leaves no chemical residue. I tried it because I got a commercial job that gets done every three months...some ladies who worked on the floor were complaining that they were having reactions to the carpet cleaning chemicals (rashes on their legs after carpet cleaning). I used this stuff and they had nothing but positive feed back and the carpets were cleaner than they'd been in a couple of years.

Has anyone tried anything else that GREEN or ORGANIC that works well?


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:26am
If you find something you and your customers like who's to tell you any different? Your accountant might not like it though. I bet the carbonated solutions products are expensive RTU.

Today there are plenty of good environmentally safe products that do work well.

What were you using that caused the reaction?

You might want to look at the DFC Products from Ted of KleenKuip as a viable alternative.


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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:46pm
It was the previous cleaner who was using something that was creating the problem. He used Host with some type of pre-spray. Cleaned them every three months that way. I wasn't impressed...One cleaning from me and they were cleaner than they had been in years (according to the customer).

I haven't tried the DFC stuff...do they work well?


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:51pm
In my personal experience yes they do.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 9:58pm
Call Kleen Kuip and request a sample or a discounted gallon to test

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:03pm
Make sure you let that stuff dwell good.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:22pm
Like for an hour

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 10:31pm
You don't like it.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:01pm
It's OK. The heavy duty is good on restaurants. I prefer my personal blend

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:03pm
Tafs trashed green

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:06pm
Never tried it. I tried trashed, found it foamy

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:08pm
Never tried it.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:22pm
Not likely I will buy from MW again. I used to buy quite a bit from them

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:28pm
LIke I say I try and support my local guy as much as I can - if I venture out it would be to Greenie for most stuff. I had a problem the one and only time I ordered from MW - it was a total PITA.
    

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:34pm
Was Taf handling your order?

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 17/February/2007 at 11:38pm
No his staff. They have three locations. Stuff got lost and never found and the order took almost three weeks to get to Washington.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:09am
I know. Just kidding. The people in Chicago are less than perfect, too. They sold me an RX 20. It arrived damaged and their only solution was to send me a can of paint to touch it up. It would have taken a lot of paint to fill the dent. I never did fix it and they never offered

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Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 7:49am
DFC works great if the carpet is already clean (very light soil) and you let it dwell for 15-20 minutes.

just sayin.


Posted By: Ken_Is_OK
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 7:52am
DFC stands for doesnt friggin clean.


Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:21am
Originally posted by pilediver pilediver wrote:

In my personal experience yes they do.



Thanks Pilediver...I'll try it...downtown Calgary is really big on GREEN products so I'm going to experiment with more of them...see what works best. Like I said this Carbonated Solutions No Soap seemed to work well and they recommend that you don't let it dwell as it's most effective when first applied...which is nice...saves some time.

I tried it again yesterday at a concrete companies offices...very dirty as you can imagine...worked quite well, however I did agitate with my floor machine before extraction and that always helps a lot no matter what you're using.


Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:28am
Originally posted by pilediver pilediver wrote:

Go to the ics board and do a search.

    
Can anyone tell me how to get to the ICS board...I've done a Google search and I get a online college and the Irish Cultural Society...they're not much help


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:29am
I usually use Ultrapac Trafficlean for prespray. CleanEvo do you deal with Fibreclean. They sell it but it is one of the most expensive juices out there. Not a green product but it works well. What are you rinsing with?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:35am
Here's the link to ics

http://www.i-boards.com/ics/

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:51am
The problem is not all cleaners work ofr all people? You need to find what works for you?

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:52am
I use some Fibreclean products ....Suspend, Attack...rinse Ultra Release...I haven't tried any of the Prochem products. Fibreclean always makes it more attractive to buy their own line...is the Prochem stuff worth the extra money?



Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 11:53am
Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

Here's the link to ics

http://www.i-boards.com/ics/

    

Thanks!!


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:00pm
I have used Pro Chem for years. I have been satisifed with it? The initial price is not the issue? It is dilution ratios dwell times importantly the ingredients. Just don't consider price when shopping for chems. As I said you need what works for you not what someone wants to sell you?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:04pm
Ultrapac is a good product, but the odour is terrible, even at low dilutions

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:05pm
True and that probably would turn most sensitive people off. Do you use any scents in your rinse?

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:13pm
Nope. It already has a faint lemon scent

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:13pm
This is off topic...but I just checked out the ICS board and I find it really not very user friendly. Do you actually have to scroll through every single topic or is there some kind of advanced search feature that I'm just not finding?   


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:20pm
On the main page go to the top, under the banner ad and click on search. Type in DFC in the message field, leave the other fields blank. You should get around 81 matches. Read away

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:23pm
Listen to this guy, he dare post off topic, well for.......

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:24pm
He's a thread hijacker. I can't believe it

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:25pm
I should have said for resturants DFC heavy duty degreaser (this is a carpet prespray) works very well. I have had moderate success with standard I think its called 104 on regular carpets.

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:27pm
We should more carefully control who we let on here. Look at that...just like that he hijacked our thread.

You know that kind of reminds me of the time I was out diving and I saw a Killer Whale jumping around us. Never did see him but we could here him in the water. What an weird sound they make.

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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:29pm
I would look at that Magic Wand green stuff and try it. They will give you a sample or a heavily discounted first order.

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:32pm
Its DFC 105. I have a sample that I didn't even try because I heard that it didn't work well at all

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by cmaster cmaster wrote:

He's a thread hijacker. I can't believe it



I'm a NEWBIE...no board manners developed yet! my appologies   


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:57pm
We're kidding. We love to hijack

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 12:59pm
    I forget why I'm on the bonnet op board??

Oh ya...that Carbonated Solutions stuff...they say you can use it with just pre-spray and bonnet...no residue...I did try that and it leaves the carpets a little crusty and when you walk onto a hard floor you can hear the residue sticking to your shoe.


Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:05pm
That doesn't sound very good. Resoiling may be an issue

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Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:12pm
    Any suggestions for interim cleaning on commercial...I've tired a couple of things with bonnet/buffer combination...works OK...haven't tried the encap products


Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:18pm
By the sounds of things interm encaping followed by HWE every couple of few encaps might be you solution depending on the type of carpet and the type of soiling.
    

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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 18/February/2007 at 1:18pm
You can try vacaway products or releasit products. Both are good.

http://vacaway.com/

http://www.releasit.com/

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Posted By: opclean
Date Posted: 04/March/2007 at 6:33pm
Hate to but in BUT. Cleanevo I do comm accounts and we have great results with snap encap solution. Very economical also. www.orbitec2.com      Thanks

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Posted By: Laserman
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 9:20am

Hi,

I've tried the No Soap Stuff.  I have 3 of their Sprayers.  It leaves the carpet Crunchy when it dries.  When the Chem Dry patent ran out and this stuff came out.  It's expensive to use.  To fill a five gallon tank it cost $5.00 or more and You'll use most  or all on a 17oo Sq foot job.  I don't use it anymore.  It's OK but not great.

Barry



Posted By: CleanEvo
Date Posted: 13/March/2007 at 9:44am
    Yes it does leave the carpets slightly crunchy, however first vacuum seems to take care of that.

What have you found that works better?

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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 26/July/2008 at 3:37am
Vacaway seems to have 2 green solutions, one encap and one for bonnet cleaning of carpets that can be used as a prespray on furniture as well.  Good prices too.  I will give them a try.



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