Who uses and emulsifier rinse (serious question)
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Topic: Who uses and emulsifier rinse (serious question)
Posted By: pilediver
Subject: Who uses and emulsifier rinse (serious question)
Date Posted: 19/January/2007 at 10:29pm
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Ok just for you Steamer. I recently tried doing a job with some Esteam CBS powder in my rinse. It kicked some serious ass. I also prespray with Ultrapac.
I did a Keg resturant with DFC degreaser (my fav for resturants) and emulsifier rinse and it went way easier - great results. Question is is it bad to use this on emuslifier rinses on regular residential I always used to use Ultrarelease Acid rinse on everything before. Pros- and Cons please. (most of you are pros and Kenny is a con) ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/January/2007 at 10:51pm
We use an emulsifer on every job, residential and commercial. Never have a problem except on carpets that have been cleaned(soaked)by the customer and browned out. Those we use an acid rinse on. Once you try a good emulsifier on a residential and see how much better it can work, you too will be sold.  ------------- 
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 19/January/2007 at 11:32pm
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So you don't prespray? Just an emulsifer? I am confused cmaster? Do you have alot of jute back carpets up there? Brown outs are very rare? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 19/January/2007 at 11:33pm
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I did today on a regular carpet but it wasn't very dirty. What do you use as a prespray? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:01am
Of course we prespray. PD's question was about using an acid rinse or emulsifier on residential carpets. We have a few jutes, but the browning comes from excess detergent use and poor extraction. We use the acid to lower the pH. Are you following me now?  -------------
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doug wrote:Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:04am
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cmaster what do you use as a pre spray and what do you use for a general spotter? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:16am
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First Step for prespray. Avenge for general, although we very seldom need a general. Anything the prespray won't remove usually requires a specialty like pog, rust, coffee, etc -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:19am
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For a prespray I have been using Citrusolv but it gets expensive. Some I know are using Zep Prep - haven't tried that yet?
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:20am
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Who makes first step ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:29am
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Steampros Solutions. It's the best I've tried, and I've tried all the big name products
I haven't tried Zep Prep. I'm not a big Zep fan, although some of their products are good. Who makes Citrusolv? -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:31am
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Bridgepoint and esteam - going to watch a DVD now - gnite ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:45am
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Nite -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:46am
------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: dennis_is_ok
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:52am
| I use both a prespray and an emulsifier but I aint sayin where I gets it!!! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 10:15am
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Must be Tide -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 11:54am
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You mean HIDE ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:13pm
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Great post but as usual...LOL
anyone ever clean with rain soft water????
really rinses out the soap and soil.. ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:24pm
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Doug uses ro water. Isn't that soft? -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:25pm
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feels soft ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: J&B2007
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:27pm
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Olympus M100 has anyone owned one of these? Is it good? ------------- J&B |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 12:28pm
Nope -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 3:23pm
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How may f**kin times is this guy going to post this question? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 3:40pm
Until everyone answers him?  -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 4:02pm
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Silence is golden? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 6:00pm
Not when you're looking for answers  -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 6:36pm
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You just have to ask the right questions? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 7:53pm
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20 times? -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:22pm
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If that is waht it takes around here to get a serious answer? Just ask Steamer? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:25pm
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Steamers too serious. Or he just gotta know right now and we like to take our time before we get to the point. What's the point anyway? ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:30pm
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The point is Steamer is a patient. Oh!! I mean has no patients? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:34pm
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Steamer must be out with the Missus earning points. Or he is gone into the witness protection program. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:49pm
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Do you mean the JW program selling the Watchtower and all? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 8:58pm
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No protection there -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:01pm
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Protection in numbers?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:02pm
All 144,000 of them  -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:03pm
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Now he has literature to had out to his custies? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 9:16pm
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That will impress them -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 20/January/2007 at 10:49pm
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Coupon in the Watchtower - good one! ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 12:08am
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Free trip to heaven after every 10 cleanings -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 10:21am
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I heard Steamer looks good in his new uniforms and briefcase? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 10:51am
thank you I do ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:11am
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Spread the good word -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:50am
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The end is near so you better have clean carpets before it's too late! ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 12:28pm
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Scare tactics always get people to buy -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 1:01pm
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Steamer will be heading up to the mountain? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 1:06pm
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Will he be drinking the kool aid? -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 1:06pm
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Only if there is no Canadian?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 3:45pm
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Let's send him a 24 -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 4:44pm
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One for each member of his congragation ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 5:24pm
Howbout 2 each  -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 8:19pm
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They can drink them while they are listening to Jimmy Hendrix playing All Along The Watchtower? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 9:49pm
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I thought it was Kumbaya -------------
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Posted By: Sonny BonoHo
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:08pm
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thread hijacking = Thread Failure....j/k hey whats the diffrence between emulsifier and surfectant? ------------- Refuse 2 Fail *Disclaimer Disclaimer* All of my comments are worthless and may lack spelling, punctuation, and detail. |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:26pm
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It's surfactant. Why don't you tell us? -------------
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Posted By: jtuseo
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:37pm
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I just rinse with hot water. I have never had a problem. ------------- WWW.PREFERREDCARPETCLEANING.COM |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 21/January/2007 at 11:57pm
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It's not a matter of not having a problem, it's a matter of what is better under what circumstances.
A surfactant reduces surface tension of a liquid. An emulsifier suspends solids in liquid. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 12:15am
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Well, now 2 of us know the difference -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 12:13pm
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Should I use a fork or a spoon?? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 1:37pm
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Use a fork, its better at picking up liquids. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 1:37pm
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Chop sticks. NR can show you how
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 2:13pm
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oh say can you seee....
by the dawns early light...
I'm as Canadian as the next guy...
I think bush is doing a great job ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 2:37pm
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Good job? Let's not discuss politics. Take it to the Blue board -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 8:03pm
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Who's the next guy?? SGG? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 11:20pm
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SGG for president? Maybe of Timbucktu -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 11:26pm
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I think we should ask Ruth Travis to resign and SGG could take her place. That way this whole SOA crap will be sure to go away because we know the only thing SGG can implement is an excuse and a tempoary illusion. Yeah that's it... SGG for IICRC President. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 11:31pm
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Good idea. He can't be any worse than Ruth. I'm not a registrant anymore so I don't give a rat's ass. I was on to the corruption years ago -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 22/January/2007 at 11:44pm
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I won't go that far. I don't have any problem at all with Ruth. I want take her rug class - she is supposed to me a very good instructor. Being new I can use all the credibility and educationt that the IICRC offers. Lots of guys I know feel the same way as you but you all have long established businesses. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 12:01am
Take the courses. Learn the technical side. Just don't support the IICRC. There is too much going on behind the scenes. Look at the Bull$hit alliance with the CRI. Just another way to fu ck hard working cleaners out of money. I could tell you some stories about how much they give a $hit about logo abuse by non certified firms. As long as people keep supporting them, nothing will change. They need restructuring and new blood. I guess you don't know about Travis and the Colour Repair course. If you knew the truth, you wouldn't be supporting them or her. Now you got me started  -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 12:18am
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that emusifier thing, I use CBS and put 3 cups into a 5 gallon rinse pickup with some lemon stinky stuff - sure works good ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 12:33am
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I like CBS. We use it too. 14 oz in 100 gal. We don't use the chem meters, no accuracy
We'll talk on the phone sometime and I'll tell you about the IICRC. It will give you no credibility. No one cares if you're certified or not. You need education from a good, non biased instructor, not certification from an organization that only wants your money and gives you nothing in return. Kinda like SGG. -------------
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Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 12:39am
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Good idea about the phone. I got free ld. Do you use powered cbs? Also do you use andy powdered Citrus. I got some from Magic Wand but it hell to mix in. I cut my prespray with a little of it. ------------- http://www.expertcarpetcare.ca>Carpet Cleaning in Victoria BC |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 12:47am
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Yup. Powdered CBS. I don't like Magic Wand's powdered or liquid citrus. Too pricey, and smells chemically. I like Steampros liquid Citrasol. I have some of Cobb's liquid citrus but haven't tried it yet. It's cheaper than Steampros. -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 10:16am
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What's the cost to get it into Canada? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 1:29pm
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I pick it up at the border, fill out a B3 and pay the G.S.T on the value in CAD. -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 2:25pm
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I have no customs office around here it closed years ago. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 2:49pm
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Buy a boat and smuggle it across the lake. ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 3:07pm
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Just have our native friends include it with their load of booze and smokes? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 3:13pm
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And guns! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 3:34pm
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Got to have protection fro them dam customs officers? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 4:01pm
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Dougs courrier service! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 4:02pm
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Quit carpet cleaning and start smuggling. There's way more money in that -------------
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 4:34pm
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 4:35pm
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Doug is to tired to be a courrier? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 4:42pm
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how is the law suit going down at the Y ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 5:22pm
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They're winning -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 8:09pm
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I didn't even consider that? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 23/January/2007 at 9:09pm
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Take em for every penny -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 8:57am
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Maybe you could get a free membership, or at least a contract to clean. ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 9:33am
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Extortion? -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 9:54am
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Whatever works for ya! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 10:24am
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It's a creative way to get work -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 10:42am
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I like to call it the nightrider approach. ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 11:03am
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I like that name -------------
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Posted By: Hammy
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 11:49am
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It's very persuasive! ------------- Could somebody just clean my carpets! |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 1:52pm
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Nice thought but I have to live here no where else will have me. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 2:17pm
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Maybe NR can come to Goderich and persuade people to use you -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:13pm
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He will give them an offer thet they cannot refuse? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 3:22pm
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You will have more business than you've ever had -------------
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 6:02pm
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Not sure I want that? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: pilediver
Date Posted: 24/January/2007 at 6:04pm
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2 souls saved for free with our $49 whole house special
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