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Topic: News from today’s seminar
Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Subject: News from today’s seminar
Date Posted: 21/April/2004 at 4:25pm
given by Carey Mitchell and Cindy Sayre of Shaw Industries and CRI. Both of the following are going to be available in the next 60-90 days.
1)The long awaited test to determine how clean a carpet gets by a given cleaning method. Its called x-ray floressence (sp) and it is used to determine the presence of soils left in the carpet.
2)The CRI Green Label program is being extended to carpet cleaning chemistry. The criteria for a good cleaner will be based on how well it cleans and how little it allows resoiling.
(Perhaps future warranty issues will be dependent on proper cleaners being used?)
Also touched on the subject on encapsulation. They are testing the encapsulating chemistry and they did confirm one thing, it seems not to resoil. Where the soil goes, nobody knows. LOL




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Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 21/April/2004 at 10:45pm

What is the CRI web site. I forgot to write it down.

Thanks



Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 22/April/2004 at 8:36am

carpet-rug.com

for the healthy slant try carpet-health.com



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 22/April/2004 at 1:25pm
Lee:  Good to see you at the seminar.  Your medal looked impressive.   Good attendence, Good information and good speaker.  You did an outstanding job of  putting this altogether.  Just my opinionGuitar


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 24/April/2004 at 11:15am

Lee: I enjoyed being at the seminar but I feel there is some questions I would like answered. Please keep in mind that I am not putting down the integrity of Carey Michell.

Why did Carey feel it was important to spend so much time on the subject that suing a company in the United States is alive and doing well.

There must be an issue in the States regarding instillation of carpet in the school board for students health and injury, but by his presentation I felt like he was addressing a room full of custodians. Was there many people there that work for the school board.

Re soiling was interesting given the fact that Shaw has there own chemical line that they use and other than soap and water with lots of rinsing their results seem to blame the other chemical companies for the fast resoling on their carpets as being there problem and not the carpet industries manufacturing.

These are just a few of the questions I have. Please forgive the simplicity of my questions however I would just like to clarify in my mind on what I was hearing.

Lee I do not expect that you have the answers I would just like your opinion or of others that were at the seminar.    Thanks Adwa



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 24/April/2004 at 12:32pm
If you inquire Carey Mitchell will tell you who's cleaner is superior.  I will not devulge that info it is not in my place. Becaue I also don't feel like having a confrontation with everyone.  But I am sure if you contact him he will inform you.  Just my opinion.  Guitar


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 24/April/2004 at 4:34pm

it's Hide...thats a no brainer



Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 2:33pm

Its no secret that Carey Mitchell believes in Ultrapac and the Stemin' Demon. As a matter of fact when they left us in Toronto they were going to Detroit for a Steamin Demon demonstration/seminar.

And as for the first question, I think the long drawn out point was that the media took a dumb published report and tried to make it the dagger that would kill the carpet industry. Well it hasn't happened and it seems like they have (at least for now) quit trying.



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 2:38pm
Lee:  There are many people who do not realize what the orignal experiment was and how it was done that caused all this in the first place.  I am sure most don't remember the day when they we going to put Carpet May be hazardous to Your Health stickers on carpet as a result of that experiment. Just my opinion.Guitar


Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 3:38pm

Thanks guys that clarifies what I heard.

You are right Doug I felt like I was out of my element at that lecture, there was so many different saying like DDT, BBS, OTC. I'm just guessing because I had no idea what he was talking about.

Poor Lee the whole afternoon I kept nudging him with questions. Appreciate your response.



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 3:46pm
ooohh I'll tell all my customers...I'm sure they would Love to know what went on at this grand seminar


Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 4:51pm

Hey Stanley,

on another board Don Eldred  commented that this was a seminar that even a old guy like him learned a lot from. Don't knock education when you don't try it.

Funny why you wonder why only a few people post here.

I guess you will start to knock Don now too eh?



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 5:04pm

Actually...I wasn't knocking...I was trying to figure out what the seminar was about......but I had to post something to get your attention.....see how the regular guy never hears about these seminars.....

I'd love to sit in on the last one...but I never even knew about it...these things should be posted here to get everyone involved....

I looked at all the posts in this section it was like a bloody secret society...it hard to post to every topic if you have no idea whats going on...

more details from you would have been nice....

and we all know the customers don't care....you don't have to get defensive...and you can put away that knife now



Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 5:14pm
Mr. Steamer: I think I read about this seminar on this board.  I don't think people who attend seminars are of a secret society.  They are a society of inquiring minds.  You do know a mind is a terrible thing to waste.  Just my opinionGuitar


Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 8:24pm

I posted it a while back.

You and nightrider made a big deal of not wanting to go until you knew what was going to be served for lunch.

Remember now hotshot?

I bust my ass trying to put together these shows , ya think I want you to come and embarass me with your nonsense Stanley?

I will never post here about my shows again Mr. Steamer, you can take potshots at me as much as you want but you won't embarass me professionally.

Thats why I use the nom de plume. I won't be held up to ridicule  on serious subjects that I hold dear to my heart.



Posted By: Adwa
Date Posted: 25/April/2004 at 11:28pm

I think you got this one wrong Lee. Steamer is an IICRC member and supports education he just didn't see the sense in paying dues every year.

If I remember correctly it was only Nightrider that wanted to know the menu and he said then I will let you know if it was worth it.

You get very defensive about your work to better this industry. There will always be someone that does not see eye to eye in what you do. Learn to turn the other check or you will have a heart attack at an early age.

I'm with you Lee so stay Cool!!    



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 12:36am

Temper Temper......Lee in anything I stated about you and your activities are my personal views...why take what I have to say to heart...If your doing the right thing keep on doing the right thing....

At least I'm man enough to tell you how I feel face to face or post to post...I don't snicker behind your back...I know a lot about you, more than you know.

and I ain't afraid to tell you...I gave you every opportunity to correct me if I was wrong...but instead you get mad....stand up for yourself...correct those who have wronged you...but you rather remain bitter

grow up man...stop being a suck



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 12:49am

Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

Funny why you wonder why only a few people post here.
you're affraid to post here......you don't have the time to explain to simpletons....Your afraid of look at different sides to the story.  Someone might ask a question that you can't answer.

I feel sorry for you....that one man like me can shake the ground that you walk on so easily.

Good keep you stupid seminars to yourself...your not hurting me...your hurting everyone else that might get some use out of them...and don't post here if you don't want opposition, and can't explain or defend your views.

I hope we never meet...because your a stupid little man that takes everything too seriously.....you'll make me eats my words.....and I'll clean your clock

 

Mr. Steamer Carpet Cleaner



Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 10:10am

I happen to get around there buddy.

It is really regretable that you do act the way you do.  I HAPPEN TO KNOW THAT THE WAY YOU ATTACK EVERYONE IS THE REASON SO MANY BOARD REGULARS DON'T POST HERE.

Ease up a bit and they will come back and check it out and maybe stay this time.

I think it is obvious from your post above that you want to oppose everything and be combative. Threaten me all you want I could care a less. No matter how tough you are  I am capable of dealing with the situation, one way or another.

 



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 5:54pm

Lee Don't mean to be combative.....I only asked a question...you may not like how it sounded but it is my opinion....that clean your clock part...it's just a come back for making me eat my words.......

In the nicest words possible.....please don't let the ignorance of one spoil it for the search of knowledge of the many...

It was just an opinion.......get over it

as for the regular board members????who where they????when I got here there where 10 topics tops...with you and doug running the show..

Hey maybe you should go partners with Ted and charge to get on here...to keep the riff raff like me out



Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 7:28pm
Regular board members, as in people who frequent all the other boards.


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 10:20pm
QUOTE=MR. STEAMER]

as for the regular board members????who where they????when I got here there where 10 topics tops...with you and doug running the show..

Hey maybe you should go partners with Ted and charge to get on here...to keep the riff raff like me out

[/QUOTE]

I always thought Ted was in charge of this board.  I ddn't think anybody run the board.  Just my opinion. If I allowed to have one.Guitar



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

Regular board members, as in people who frequent all the other boards.
I watched this board long before I started to post...nothing was happening...NOTHING...it was dead...dead ...dead...post where days apart...if you don't believe look for yourself


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 26/April/2004 at 11:49pm

Regular members from other boards....not regular members on this board.

It doesn't matter.....I'm just a carpet cleaner...I do my job...what ever I do works for me....

PLEASE ALL YOU REGULAR MEMBERS DON'T LET MR. STEAMER STOP YOU FROM POSTING...I'M ONLY ONE MAN




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