how do i no if the carpet is woal just cleaned a w
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Topic: how do i no if the carpet is woal just cleaned a w
Posted By: easy1dave
Subject: how do i no if the carpet is woal just cleaned a w
Date Posted: 27/May/2006 at 11:06pm
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white carpet and the next day it look ass it was changing to a off white color had to re do. If it does it again what should i do. Think it might be woal but dont want to say nothing to custermer to scare them? Thanks David ------------- david |
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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 27/May/2006 at 11:11pm
| I would love to see what your flyers look like.................. Nightrider |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 27/May/2006 at 11:25pm
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nightrider wrote:Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 27/May/2006 at 11:26pm
| Start from the beginning. How did you clean it, David? |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/May/2006 at 12:26am
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rinse with textile rinse... or brown out... or acetic acid..
sounds like over wet browning to me ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: easy1dave
Date Posted: 28/May/2006 at 9:50am
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I used proforce carpet extraction cleaner as mix 2 oz to a gal. went back next day and did the same thing suck the water out more. I called the custermer this morning and he said it looked a lot better. If it browning from over wetting will it just keep getting worse. Can I just spray brown out on it or will I have to use truck mount and re do. Thinks. going to take a class as soon as one comes around here. ------------- david |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 28/May/2006 at 2:18pm
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the class wont help you....
I would just clean again with some textile rinse... no pre-spray...double dry vac... and a air mover in the mix would help... if you want to go the extra mile you could spray brownout on top od it after it's cleaned ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 28/May/2006 at 6:55pm
| Mr. Steamer is telling you all the right stuff, easy1dave. Just do what the man says. |
Posted By: carpetologist
Date Posted: 29/May/2006 at 4:55pm
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Easydale, First learn how to spell the word "Wool" then do a burn test.
Just kidding, my speling is terrible. But my slogan is "I can't SPELL but I sure can CLEAN!" especially since I purchased a Rotovac 360.
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Posted By: cleanex
Date Posted: 30/May/2006 at 6:50pm
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You don't need to do a burn test if it is wool you should be able to tell by the smell, once wool is wet you will know it is wool! Simple as that, and I would not re-clean time after time if it is browning than apply a topical treatment, brush it in and let it work. ------------- DON ELDRED YOU CAN "STAND" ON OUR REPUTATION |
Posted By: WCCCo.
Date Posted: 10/June/2006 at 12:52pm
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Except of course for the fact that if you have taken a course, perhaps even tested for your CCT cert from IICRC, this would have never happened... All of the guys we hire have to complete their CCT before they are allowed to touch a wand. They are required to complete their CRT before their six-month mark. ------------- Christopher Graham West Coast Cleaning Co. Greater Seattle Area |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 10/June/2006 at 5:48pm
The damn class will not help you.... it barely touches on browning.....and for sure it doesnt talk about way to prevent browning....
there are a lot of factors that cause browning...
the CCT course goes in detail about NONE of them..
he's done what we all have done.... learned from our own damn mistake
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Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 10/June/2006 at 11:03pm
| Amen! |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 10/June/2006 at 11:22pm
I guess they should change the course then. Nevermind, that would be too easy
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Posted By: WCCCo.
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 4:30am
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Shrug, the instructors in our area have been in business for 25-30 years. They spend a considerable amount of time discussing such issues. There is no way in hell I would send my guys out to learn through trial and error.. More than a couple houses in my neighborhood have installed $300.00/sy silk and wool. I don't have time for a $30,000.00 "lesson".
My advice is take the class. If it saves you from having to buy just one of your customer's carpets it has paid for itself. You sound like you would gain a lot from it. ------------- Christopher Graham West Coast Cleaning Co. Greater Seattle Area |
Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 9:14am
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I don't understand why everbody thinks its browning?
A dirty wool carpet still has a ton of dirt being held away by the cuticles on its fibers that we just aren't vacuuming away.
We clean it in home and the wool naturally would hold a ton of moisture.
More likely a wicking issue IMO.
Now granted it may have a jute backing and there may be some browning, but why would browning be offf-white? Its always been pretty brown when I see it.
An IICRC class has only so much time in it. Most of the classes here already run overtime. The subject that is usually hammered away at here is wicking and removing the dry excess as much as possible before adding water/cleaning solutions.
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 10:52am
If you think the class has prepared your guys to go out and not brown carpet...
YOU'RE WRONG!
It's simple words of experience from a senior tech to a junior tech....
I remember my senior telling me...all the things that can casue browning...not the cct course...
and if you say it's in the program in your area THATS BULL S H I T...
we have had this debate here many times.....no need to go on with the samething ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 4:44pm
I have never taken a class that has run overtime. Most are done by 2pm the second day. Just the exam after that
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 4:48pm
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I can't remember if I took a class??? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 5:22pm
Yup. |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 5:55pm
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Too bad none of you got to attend an OPCCA carpet cleaning course. I think my first IICUC carpet cleaning course I took from Ron Tooney and it was from 8 to 5 both days then the test which as I might say was much more complicated than todays questionaire? But people compalined it was too long it was too much to learn it was just too hard so?? Now you get what you pay for? Or not? I think back then the cost was $125 or $150 for the seminar. I attended most of my classes in the US. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Michael
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 6:06pm
Sounds like a good class, doug. I'm a bit envious, for sure, but I at least feel that my instructor, Doug Heifferman, did a great job despite the program changes. He's a great guy, and I'd be happy to take any industry class from him. Plus, he's really fun to impersonate.  Word is that you're certified all over the place, doug. Ever thought of moving into the teaching arena?
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 11/June/2006 at 7:05pm
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Michael: Don't believe everything you hear. I am certifiable there is a difference. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 12/June/2006 at 9:02pm
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The CCT classes in Toronto always run overtime these days.
The sponsors and facility owners aren't too impressed. The students are demanding three days.
The fact is that it is the belief of most teachers that wicking is being mistaken for browning.
There just isn't cellulostic material in the stuff people are claiming are browning.
My classes focus on the point of jute backings, if you see one, this is what you do.
Us old schoolers had real browning problems a decade or more ago that just don't exist anymore.
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/June/2006 at 9:19pm
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3 Days?? Why the hell don't you just offer an apprentiship? I for one in most of these cases believe the 3rd is for nothing more than an extra bonus for the instructor with increases in the cost to students. I personally think most of the manuals are a joke. The cct course is not going to make you something you are not. On the job training is the only way to learn a trade not out of make shift manuals thrown together with never ending changes to meet the ever changing test questions that are supose to make you an instant expert? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 12/June/2006 at 9:56pm
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No extra money for the third day for soem.
I offer a free spot removal class now.
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/June/2006 at 10:02pm
Free is good
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 12/June/2006 at 10:21pm
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That's because you feel so guilty chargeing what you do for two days so you give the third say free? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 13/June/2006 at 9:26pm
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Yeah sure.
I don't charge enough to feel guilty about.
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 14/June/2006 at 4:19pm
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How much is enough?? ------------- Just My opinion |