Dennis

The label does not have specific instructions for carpet but it is impostant to understand why. DFC Heavy Duty Cleaner is certified by Environmental Choice under the Standard CCD146e (degreaser). It is also certifdied under Green Seal GS37 as well as Envirodesic (indoor air quality)

The Canadian Government (Environmental Choice) also has a Standard CCD 148 which is specific for carpets. Our products DFC 105 and DFC 210 are certified under this category. One of the criteria for passing CCD146e is that one cannot put instructions specific to carpet on the label as it would interfere with the CCD148 standard.

So we had 2 options. 1. leave off carpet instructions and put on EC logo or 2. Put on carpet instructions and not have EC logo. We obviously chose the former.

DFC Heavy Duty is very well suited for carpets, has a working pH of 9.00 and will perform exceptionally well.

We just have to follow some of the wacky rules that are out there. Hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

Micahel that is a great question. The only product i have ever seen that might be considered "self neutralizing is ammonia based products and is only the ammonia that evaporates - hence the origin of this term.

DFC Heavy Duty contains something called Sodium Carbonate. Here is what happens. Once diluted with water at a pH of 10.33 the diluted

solution becomes 50% sodiium bicarbonate (baking soda). Then again at a pH of 8.33 becomes 100% baking soda and at a pH of 6.33  it converts into CO2 (carbon dioxide - what we breathe out) This makes it self neutralizing, provided there is sufficient water when you use the product. 

However, the use of DFC 105 provides excellent water softening and rinsing of soils, especially wherre you do not prepsray

Many professionals who use 105 have found that they need less prepsray when they use the products in combination - only where it is necessary.

Hope this helps - Jim

Michael

I would not recommend bonneting with DFC Heavy Duty. In this process you do not have enough water to neutralize the product. i have no doubt it will clean well but the 105 & 210 are better suited for this purpose.

As far as Tile and grout goes, we have 2 choices. It really depends on what type of soil you are cleaning from the grout. If the soil is oil and fat related then DFC heavy Duty will do an absolutely tremendous job. If, on the other hand the soil you atre cleaning is hard water related (such as that found in a washroom on ceramics) then DFC 23 Calcium Lime and Rust remover will work better.

I would assume that most of your work on T&G is resiential so bring them both to the job site. One of these 2 products will work. If you are doing washrooms I would go with the DFC 23 - other than that it might be either, once again depending on the soil load.

 I will absolutely guarantee you that with either of these 2 products, you will save a very significant amount of money over any other T&G product sold in the market

DFC 105 & DFC 210 work on the basis of food ingredients softeneing the soil to the point where the warm water that we use is able to emulsify the soils  with out the need for synthetic chemicals. DFC 23 & DFC 5 dissolve the calcium lime and rust deposits associtecd with hard water

With the addition of the carbonate in DFC heavy Duty we work on saponification whereby we turn oils and fats into soap. Hope this helps

Doug

The answerr to your question kind of goes to one of my above posts. In order to get DFC heavy Duty certified by Environmental Choice we are not allowed to put any directions on the label as it relates to carpet care. I beleive the reson for this is that it is cetrified under the "Degreaser" section.

having said that, most people that I know who have tried it in a Hydro Force are putting about 2 cups in a HydroForce and using the yellow metering tip. I think that is a 4 -1 mixture but i could be mistaken. I am no expert on the inner workings of the Hydro Force. I had 1 fellow call the other day to tell me he expects his prespray cost to go about 60%.

I guess that is a good thing. Hope this info helps

doug and Jim,

You guys are still in the dark ages trying to figure out the colour combination or tips for your Hydroforce.

Buy the new revolution and dial for DFC.

Work Smarter Not Harder.

For use new guys can the Most Royal Potantate Grand Booba Great Hardini explain what teh mew revolution and dial for DFC is.

Please and thanks!!

  I just used it for the first time and I must say it is awesome stuff.

Michael

Call Chemspec in baltimore 800-638-7370. Ask for John Holibaugh. We introduced the product here in canada first. Chemspecd US is releasing it soon. John can fill you in on the details. I met Bill once = please say hello to him from me

Jim

I have to take may hat off to Chemspec and DFC....

Got a sample from Ted...the best chemical I ever used to date

I had a customer that had a funny stain...I tried everything on it last year and couldN'T get it out...... One shot of DFC this year and WOW it was gone.

It also took out some rust stains(metal rust)... and it works well on red spots.

I like DFC! two thumbs up!

since we can use food chemical to clean... do you think we can get anything out of these Jim that we can use on carpet??

Let me say I'll be chemspec's first milker ever

Steamer

Glad you liked it. We have been hearing all sorts of good things about it. Just so you know, in the next 2 weeks, we will have a new label on it - one that reflects all of the certifications we have received 

Jim

For Steamer to give you a testimonial like that on DFC Steamer must be softening his hard line approach.  Or DFC is "Really Really" an excellent product and very inexpensive to use.  If Steamer did not like it you would have been the first to know.

I've used a lot of crap-o-la.... truthfully  I was shocked....

I thought it was just water in a bottle....I had to taste it to make sure...

I looked like a hero and a fool all at the same time......the customer said"last time you worked on that stain for five minutes...this time boom! it's gone"

I will add it to my list of must have for my truck from now on!

DFC

Steamer - Given some of your past public statments on chemicals - a big thank you from all of us. As Ted said, the Booberator is very interesting

DFC HD is really new and exciting technolgy. Good cleaning, no chemicals. It offers a great marketing tool to your customers. Now i guess I owe you a coffee. Wherever there is any type of oil present it turns it into soap and easily rinses away. Cool stuff