Didn't you think of a marketing plan before you purchased the Recoil. You're like the guy that buys a farm and doesn't know how to grow crops

Business plan, then marketing plan, then purchase equipment

                              Nightrider

H aha ha ha h .......Gorilla.........your original question was you wanted to know the best approach how to attain commercial accounts.......Then I post an intellegent response to your foolish & uneducated question.............following that you prove your ignorance and business stupity by trying to attack me with dumb, immature,illogical innuendo of sexual conjecture.

If you have a commercial contract with 450 properties, that is enough work for 3 truckmounts perhaps even 5 truckmounts.............let alone a little Recoil-3 porty.

Perhaps I take back what I said in the post that offended you...............what you need is a middle-school education and perhaps a high scool diploma if you can make it that far  

You are proff that any fool on welfare can get into carpet cleaning with a little cash and a pipe-dream

                                 Nightrider

gorilla I think buttrider prefers frilly panties not a dress but I could be wrong.

I won't tell you were he puts his vac hose to test his lift.

I find it amazing when history proves true when it demonstrates that the uneducated and ignorant seem to always stand together to boost the others to a higher height of total ignorance & stupity.

Spash N Dash , CTGCR, & Gorilla......what a trio of knowledge..........it takes 3 of you to try to outsmart the " GREAT NIGHTRIDER "

If  BRAINS was leather the 3 of you combined wouldn't have enough to make a Jacket for a flea

                                Nightrider

Gorilla wrote that he lived on his own since High School..........sooooooo what's the point there

What school did you go to......Rinky Dinky High

Next you were a fireman for 4 years, and you quit to make a career change to become a carpet cleaner...........are you nuts ( I guess you are )

Then you own 2 businesses............ NOT 1 BUT 2 of them, complete with full time employees Wake up Gorilla, your dream is over.........time to face the real world in real time

I hope you don't think people here believe your fairy-tales........... do you ,your story is like a dentist quitting his job to make a career move to   become a dishwasher

Gorilla...........you're a mental midget, living in your own little fantasy world somewhere between Munchkin-land & Seseme Street

                                  Nightrider

LOL @ two things here.

i) bumrider logging in under his many different names to agree with himself on the assault on gorilla.

ii) He went back and read ALL of gorillla's posts to find some dirt on him.

insomnia is a bitch aint it pollrider? 

James;

There is absolutely no reason why you can not sell residential and commercial accounts because you certainly have the tools to do so.

Michael has also made some great points here to. You must be fair and competitive in pricing but be persistent in calling on each and every account and they will begin to fall into place. And, you can make money (profit) on those types of jobs because never forget that you are never making money (profit) if your equipment just sits in the garage. Keep it running wisely.

Good Fortune to all;

Ed Valentine

http://www.cross-american.com - www.cross-american.com

Hey Knightrider hows Kitt? still talking out your ass I see

Oh well you'll get your cumupins

Oh Brother.............another moron to add to the list and he calls himself richardcrainium......now were up to 4 to try to outsmart the GREAT NIGHTRIDER.........keep them comming, you retards will never have an once of brains between yourself. what a bunch of morons.

                                  Nightrider

Hey Gorilla, I saw another post and someone suggested doing office chairs too.  I think the possilby the things that diferenciate you are probably going to get you the work. 

As suggested, keep going back to your cold calls, they will get the point that you seriously want to do work for them.  Another idea migh also be to do tie and grout work with the carpet cleaning.  I would bet that not many if any other people that approached these building managers have thought to mention that they could do both.  If these buildings are large it will not be long before you will need a Cimex and a good rotary tool as well.  If you got that kind of commercial potential so easily obtained then it would be worth the investment.  IMO the only way you can make $$ on commercial is by volume work which means staff willing to work nights.  Are yousure you really want to go that way even if this work is in front of you?

Another word about property management companies.  Many of the larger companies have several managers who each have there individual portfolio of properties.  They individually have their own favourite trades and you need to visit each one.  The contact you have is likely only one manager of many.

You might not feel comfortable to do a lunch and learn with the group but I bet that if you could arrange to do something special for them at there meetings without even being there.

Most of these managers have weekly or monthly meetings.  May I suggest that you ask the receptionist to allow you to bring in for this group donuts or plates of sandwhiches (as the venue dictates) and then leave some of your cards and a few brouchers of  your services beside them.  I am sure that either your contact or the receptionist (who usually lines these things up) would be glad to give you a mention at the meeting that the goodies were from you.   This idea has some class to it and the subtleness to your approach to all the property managers won't go unnoticed. 

NR give the guy a break.

ha bha ha ha bha ha h aha ha.......... Don't hold back CTGCR..........let it all out, take a deep breath, relax, and swear some more............FEEL BETTER.

Now go help someone who posts here on how to clean a carpet

May I suggest you use some water & soap

Imagine that............. A discussion group on how to push a carpet wand to clean a carpet...........lucky you guys don't have a high education........then you would be up-graded to window cleaning

                                 Nightrider 

Alright Pilediver, I'll stop & let the blind follow the blind

If you all don't settle down so help me I'll, I'll

Oh well

Call the fire department, they're all on fire.........oh wait a minute Gorilla's a fireman.........but that's only when he's dreaming..........but you never know who or what Gorilla is today...........he may have made another career move.............perhaps he's a street sweeper today........hey Gorilla.......how's business picking up

                            Nightrider

The "Demo".. will land you more commercial jobs than any other method.... Well, It does for me....

Give'em a "demo" NOW... show them how good you are.... Then hand them the bid........ BOOM !! you got the acct.......

HA HA HA HA HA HBA AH  I OWN A $ 17,000 SEAMLESS GUTTER MACHINE......WOW...REALLY

YOU ACTUALLY PAID TO BE IN THE GUTTER...........NICE MOVE

HOW MUCH DID YOU PAY FOR YOUR FIRETRUCK, ........IS IT RED AND SHINNY WITH A LADDER

WHAT ELSE DO YOU OWN GORILLA, LET US ALL KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY BLOW UP DOLLS OF LITTLE BOYS, I HEARD FIREMEN ARE ALL f*gGOTS THAT WHY THEY SLEEP AT THE STATION TOGETHER.............GOOD COVER-UP

                             Nightrider

UH Like quelle est une gouttière ?

Gutter is an American term...............actually it's an Eave Gutter.............In Canada they're called Eave Troughs.

You're so dumb Splash you don't even reconize a play with words when someone uses them

                              Nightrider

Hey nightrider,

Most fireman have at least 2 jobs or there on business. I have been a career fireman and a volunteer for 21 years. I also have my own business. I can't speak for all fireman's sexuall preference, but I can tell you were used to pulling pussies like you out of trouble usually while your crying like a baby.

Now I have the Fire Department after me, Griff you're right, I probably would be happy to see you guys in that circumstance..........cry like a baby.........I doubt it........I've been in many dangerous situations in my life, never cried once. I applogize to all firemen for my insults.

Splash, your French is not bad but it shows you are using a translation text...........as far as what you say........it just shows the extent of your mentality. ( NOT TOO BRIGHT ) I would have to say you were a waste of sperm that your mother should have swallowed or spit out, too bad she left her legs open and your father wasn't smart enough to use a condom.

                                 Nightrider

Gorilla........that's 2000 not 200 posts, and YES I am crazy...............Thanks for noticing.

As far as the crying when scared or in danger........... Never Happened...........how can you cry when faced with danger..........that means you gave up and your demise is surely at hand.............I'm a thinker and will do anything to try to change a bad situation.

My dangerous situations are not for all ears to hear, at 52 years old I've been around the block alot of times, with the best and the worst of them.

If you were truely a Fireman.........I salut you

                                Nightrider

Splash $$$ Dash is a nobody, just a black stain on a white carpet that everybody wishes would disappear.

He's fast with the insults, but not smart enough to know what his insults mean.

Forget about him..............he's just a flash in the pan.

                                Nightrider