Winterize and store the Tm
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Topic: Winterize and store the Tm
Posted By: John L
Subject: Winterize and store the Tm
Date Posted: 12/November/2005 at 11:33pm
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As winter appoaches i was thinking on winterizint my TM and let it sit in my driveway....use my Recoil so i can take it inside and everything stays warm.... Anyone else do this??? or do you run you TM when it's below zero??? Call me chicken...want to make sure nothing freezes as i clean... I don't have a trap door like SS has...that way you can shut the side door... Mine would be open and ?????? what could freeze ????? 1st winter with TM.... Help me if you can my friends... I'm sure i could figure it out but tell me your experience under freezing conditions.... Thanks man....
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/November/2005 at 11:39pm
Since we have PTO's, we can close all the doors while working. The only thing that freezes is the wand, and that is only when it is below -20 and you don't get into the house quick enough 
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 12/November/2005 at 11:42pm
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cmaster...dont your hoses leave the doors open..????
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Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 12/November/2005 at 11:52pm
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Only a couple of inches. We run them out the back doors and the equipment is at the side doors. My Tm's have never frozen while out working, only when parked with the van shut off for a few hours.
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 12:11am
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look at the pics of my older van,you will notice a little hole in the step of the van
that way I can keep all doors closed I have run heaters in the vans overnight and it always leaves me worried last winter I rented a very small shop next week I will decide between a couple shops I've been looking at,I have someone else interested in splitting the costs HUGE piece of mind the worst that will happen in the winter while working usually is a frozen solution hose which is no biggy once the machine is warm (if the van is insulated) the van is warm ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 1:05am
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We park ours in heated garages during the winter. Leaving them outside is too risky IMO.
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 1:05am
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once your insulted with no cracks your good up to -15 for at least 8 hours. just keep the damn thing out of the wind it's the wind in the cracks that do the damage ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 1:12am
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Thanks guys.... My van is insulated.... don't have a garage... but can rent a heated 2car garage for $150US...have to pay for the heat which is propane heat...How expesive will that be per month???? I thought natural gas was cheaper....dunno... OR I can run the anti-freeze thru the plumbing and put a heater inside... Dropped down to 28f one night.... had heater on medium 900W setting and it was 80f in the van..... Now when it gets -20... I am wondering will it sustain the same temp difference which is about 50f............. Any thoughts.... Man, I should be out shooting pool and making money......I use to be a what ya call a Hustler back in my days...........
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 1:31am
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I have never heated my van in side the garage....no mater how cold it gets I don't turn off the until I'm jumping in the van to drive back home..... then I blast the heat... get it nice and hot... get it inside the garage... and shut it up tight... good for at least a day and a half still warm in the morning when I hop back in.... if your slow you should start it up and let ir run for a while to get it warm and then shut it up again ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 8:37am
Lp gas (propane)is very expensive but still cheaper than a freezup. I have had it cold enough to freeze the gauges on front of one of the 405's. The temp dropped after we started the hoses would not rollup when we were finished. the joys of living the lake. I have always had the vans insulated. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 10:43am
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Winter is not a time for a lot of furniture moving inside the house while your cleaning. once you pull the solution hose in...you don't stop for more than a minute or 2... once the water isn't moving it will freeze... especially steam. so last in first out... and try to keep the hose runs to a minimum...I won't do a hose drop any more than 15 to 20 feet outside in the winter... if you have to drop 50 ft and above forget it... your asking for trouble ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 12:49pm
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We still end up with fairly long runs even in winter. the thig that pi$$ me off is trying to pull the hose out of the snow banks after it sinks to the bottom of the snow drift? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 2:06pm
Yup. Gotta hate snow
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 7:33pm
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I think some people deliberately wait till the dirtest coldest and most miserable day of winter to have their work done? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 10:23pm
at least the hoses stay warm buried under the snow ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 10:30pm
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Love the way they cut into that snow
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 13/November/2005 at 10:50pm
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some people bury them to keep them warm ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 3:05pm
No matter whuch way you look at it winter is very hard on the equipment? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 7:02pm
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The truck runs a bit cooler. No overheating
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 8:37pm
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Winter sounds like alot of fun with a TM... I will winterize and put a heater in my van very soon and let it sit thru the chilling cold... Break out the Recoil and use it during the winter...That way i can take her inside and everything stays warm....thanks for all the pros and cons on winter TM use......
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 9:03pm
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you'll miss it ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 9:14pm
No $hit. I would never even consider that
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 9:24pm
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Your right about... missing it... but I want to be safe...and warm... Call me chicken... I don't care.... I know it's colder up in the great white north but man it gets below zero here in Wisconsin.... It's snowing now as i type....damn!!!
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Posted By: Advantage
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 9:34pm
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Ok, What did you do, take em in the custys house to thaw. ------------- CCT, UFT, OCT, CRT, RRT, WRT, SMT, FSRT, JTC, JSR, JWR, MTC a great life, if you don't weaken. |
doug wrote:Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 10:04pm
Left them there till spring? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 10:08pm
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How much cooler can a Clean Cold run? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 10:49pm
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Down around -20. Haven't you heard the latest carpet cleaning technology. It's called ice blasting. Sheesh, Doug, I woulda thought you'd be up on all that stuff |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 15/November/2005 at 11:25pm
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snowing here to
the real problems start after -20C
even then
bin der done dat
never really wrecked anything ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: spruce
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 1:25am
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I am glad that I am on the WET COST (west coast). I think it snowed 1/2 doz times last year John L here is a good reason to use your TM in the snow.
Roger ------------- A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood |
I think our low was about -8 C. Sometimes the snow stays on the ground for 3-4 days.
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 3:29am
How'd you get a picture of my back yard?
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 12:57pm
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Snow give you good insulation from the cold? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 1:44pm
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it does ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 2:09pm
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ever heard of an igloo?? ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 10:21pm
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Of course. I live in one
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:06pm
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Cool in the summer? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:19pm
http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk571YYCA"> http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb065_ZNxmk571YYCA"> ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:19pm
http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk571YYCA"> http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb066_ZNxmk571YYCA"> ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 16/November/2005 at 11:20pm
http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk571YYCA"> http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb066_ZNxmk571YYCA"> ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 3:50am
Steaminpile. Smiley Central is loaded with spyware. I had a hell of a time removing it all with my spyware detector
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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 11:07am
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------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 10:02pm
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You didn't know that
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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 10:53pm
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More good advice fron the spymaster? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 17/November/2005 at 10:55pm
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smiley central is gone
never had problems though
I think cmaster may have been jealous of my many smileys ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 18/November/2005 at 5:28am
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Did you get it out completely??? Just got back from a long day... 4 resys... and a nasty chinese... my helper made it today... It was 10f... windchill about 0 this morning... Everything stayed warm.... At first i just had the doors open enough for the hoses.... did one room and checked the tm... Man it was 130f in the van... so i left the side doors open....A great insulation job makes soooo much difference.... Goodnight.....
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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/November/2005 at 11:52am
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never cold with a slide-in ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 18/November/2005 at 1:25pm
I will agree with that? ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 18/November/2005 at 3:34pm
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with the exchangers between the seats it stays pretty warm with the Cleanco also
but warmer with a slide in I agree ------------- A.K.A. Andy |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 19/November/2005 at 1:09am
Did you remove all the spyware that came with it? I think spyware doctor is the only one that would get rid of the last 4 spyware entries that it left on my system |
Posted By: spruce
Date Posted: 25/November/2005 at 12:40am
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When you guys clean in the cold what do you do about the cold water in hose, or do you only use fresh water tanks in the cold? ------------- A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood |
Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 25/November/2005 at 1:06am
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Last week i did a chinese at night.. got down to 10f... The water supply to the machine i turned both the cold and hot.... no problems.... Can't tell'ya about below zero... Some of the other guys can... Stay WARM........................................................ ........ |
Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 25/November/2005 at 8:57am
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You want to keep your water in hose as short as possible. We have carried our own water for the last 15 or so years. Your good to go as long as you keep working. ------------- Just My opinion |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 25/November/2005 at 10:18pm
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Keep the water flowing. No problems. Get set up quickly and start cleaning
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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 19/December/2005 at 6:55pm
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Thank's for all the winter tm advice my canadian friends.... Did this today... The Chase lounge chair in the background and sofa and rug and almost -10f and nothing froze..... http://tinypic.com/ivvj2p.jpg - http://tinypic.com/ivvj2p.jpg |
Posted By: cmaster
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 4:33pm
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We knew you could do it |
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 20/December/2005 at 7:11pm
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solution hose in last during the winter... if you pre-spray first... and you like a lot of dwell time... all you have to do is put the solution hose back in the truck until your ready... ------------- www.mr-steamer.com |