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Topic: Equipment questions???
Posted By: nordicfrost14
Subject: Equipment questions???
Date Posted: 28/July/2005 at 9:12pm
I'm a newbie here and I have a couple of questions to ask, first of all I'm going to be buying a TM soon and I would like to know what you all think about the Butler System? And also I would like to know what you think about Hydra master and steam way also?  Please give me honest and complete unbiased comments!!  Thanks me and my family do appreciate it!!

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Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 28/July/2005 at 9:50pm

I have a Steamway

 

when she's working properly she's awesome..............but it's beginning to be a rare occassion

 

hydramaster pto's are good

Never used a Butler but alot of people love them



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Posted By: Dennis Conner
Date Posted: 28/July/2005 at 10:01pm

I don't own any of the mentioned machines, but from what I have seen...

Butlers are reliable and Steamways are not.

Steamways are hot and Butlers are not.

 



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/July/2005 at 1:07am
service it... and no matter what it is ...it will run and make you money

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 29/July/2005 at 7:43am
some makes are just plain junk from the beginning.

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Just My opinion


Posted By: Jim Martin
Date Posted: 29/July/2005 at 8:05am
Hydra master CDS 4.8 is a wonderful machine. Been running it for 3 years now and haven't had a single problem. Very powerful machine.  The right chemicals and a RX20 and it is a great combantion.

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Jim Martin


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 29/July/2005 at 10:23pm

doug which ones....

aren't they all made by prochem now???



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 30/July/2005 at 1:58am
Mines coming next week...    Nah, nah     Cheers


Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 2:02am
what kind of machine you buying John??

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A.K.A.
Andy


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 8:17am
[QUOTE=MR. STEAMER]

doug which ones....

aren't they all made by prochem now???

Just the ones with protective covers?? 

 

 



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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:23am

doug will you ever learn how to quote someone properly...lol

you start typing after the last quote in the bracket



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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 12:27pm
Excuse me all to hell then!!

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Just My opinion


Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 12:40pm

I know Prochem makes the Cleanco slide ins

 

and I wouldn't be suprised about the Bridgepoint machines

there are quite a few knock offs but not actually made by Prochem like (sorry Ted) the Chemspec machines

which I don't think carry the Chemspec name anymore???



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Andy


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 1:11pm
Andy: I thought the Pro Chem CD was the old Aqua Tech? I didn't realize PC made the cleanco slide in.

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Just My opinion


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 1:23pm

Originally posted by Steaminpile Steaminpile wrote:

what kind of machine you buying John??

I was thinking on accelerated's 2545 BUT then i was thinking why use 2 fuels and i really don't like propane (had it before) well the heat yea... but not stopping and waiting around for it...switching tanks... sure, it's doesn't take long but not for me anymore...

Freedom XT-45..............25hp



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 6:39pm

whats the difference...???

motor... pump....blower..

surbuilt, roots,cat, american pumps,honda,kholer,brigss,nissan

this shows how dumb some people are...

all these things are put into and nice little shell with a companies name on it...

they use alot of the same stuff and copy each other...

who cares what the name says... all things need service...

be true to your service and the machine will be true to you...



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www.mr-steamer.com


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 7:06pm
I kike brand reccognition.

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Just My opinion


Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 8:32pm

Originally posted by doug doug wrote:

I kike brand reccognition.

especially when it comes time to sell??

 

I also love the high heat that propane and kero can provide but it does become a pain having more than one fuel

 

a Cleanco Cruiser is identical to a Prochem Peak

 

the Prochem PTO is an Aquatech spacesaver except Prochem changes a few little things

 

I like the Powerclean machines but there is only one distributor in Canada that I know of and if you ask another CC around here what they think of them...........they don't know what you are talking about

 

Steamer..................not all machines are the same.....especially when it comes to the plumbing of the waste tank!!!



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Andy


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 8:37pm
I said i didn't want propane dummy.... I know they all have similar part and need maintenance.....


Posted By: Steaminpile
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 9:27pm
are you going to buy it off of Duane?

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A.K.A.
Andy


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 10:24pm

Ok if you think so.... I've gotten my hands dirty on a lot of repairs... I can't tell one machine from another..

all this stuff is put together with parts.... the plumbing is where they catch you.... they always over do, with things that aren't needed...

Keep it simple...but make no money on service and parts

soon these machines will be electronically fuel injected with computer chip brains... we won't be able to service them...

this will sepearte the cleaners that make money from ones that don't



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www.mr-steamer.com


Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 10:56pm
I think they already have started to make them that way.

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Just My opinion


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 01/August/2005 at 11:27pm

we pay high for what???

man this is a dog eat dog world



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/August/2005 at 1:56am
Your right Mr. Steamer dog eat dog but what ya gona do...gota pay their price or go portable forever........


Posted By: danmarck82
Date Posted: 24/January/2006 at 11:54pm
I have owned Butlers for 15 years. I have honestly had 3 ( reschedule-
able) down days in 15 years due to equipment. In the last 2 years the
butler unit cost less than $100.00 of repair. I personally think they are a
top notch , well designed quality unit with the carpet cleaner in mind.


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 25/January/2006 at 1:16am

I have never heard any negitive remarks or comments regarding The Butler System, and yet only a few own them ( in Canada anyway )

                               Nightrider



Posted By: Ninja-wand
Date Posted: 25/January/2006 at 2:55am

I started out with a used (1990) Butler in a GMC truck. Never had any serious problems with it. Finally last month decided to get rid of the old truck and get another one (even though the old one was still running somewhat good, it just had TONS on hours on it).

The reason I love the Butler system is because of it's simple, dependable, and ease of maintenance. Honestly, I dont have much experience with other units (except Prochem when I usedta work for SEARS and the BUtler is a better unit IMO by the way).

Oh..the only weak point on the Butler is the chemical feed. Seems like it stop feeding after a while. I ended up mixing my rinse in the fresh water tank in my old Butler. But...so far havent had that problem with the new one.




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