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Topic: Best Media??
Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Subject: Best Media??
Date Posted: 23/March/2004 at 6:56pm
What works best...I want to drop some advertising but I find I get mixed results...sometimes the radio works great sometimes it doesnt...sometimes flyers work great....sometimes YP's work great...but I find nothing consistant.....Does anyone have any ideas???



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Posted By: terry
Date Posted: 23/March/2004 at 7:05pm

 Small ads that look like articals in the local papers work the best for us.

The kind that talk about your company in the 3td person.

Tried radio once ,was not the best .Lots of $$$$ for small return.

 



Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 23/March/2004 at 10:35pm

Do you ever get good customers from the local paper???I find that it's all the cheapies...radio(talk radio) you get old people......Yellowpages make the phones ring, but you spend a lot of time answering questions, and just quoting...darn people always looking to price compare...

what makes you say wow...that was worth it



Posted By: Harvey
Date Posted: 24/March/2004 at 12:28am
  hey steamer i think maybe it depends on the population of the area you are serving. Being from a community of about 30 000 I did not find yellow pages did a thing for me. Especially seeing they put the wrong phone # in the ad. But whatever the ad was free & I didn't notice any business loss. 
   Lately I have been going hard on radio advertising & business has tripled from every other year. This is the way to go for me ,as well as doing the best possible job I can, because in a community this size everyone is gonna hear about it---good or bad!
    O ya local paper = one time waist of money  IMHO


Posted By: nightrider.
Date Posted: 24/March/2004 at 4:31pm
Free giveaways steamer anything works with free give aways


Posted By: Stanley
Date Posted: 05/April/2004 at 10:10pm
no one has any ideas to post?????cmon guys this is days old

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Posted By: doug
Date Posted: 05/April/2004 at 10:37pm
We leave scratch pads.  They have all our services in ligh print on the back ground and our name accross the top.  We used to use magnets some are still around after 15 years.  but the magnet crase on the fridge has gone by thewayside I think I could be wrong.  I was wrong  once but it wasn't my fault. 


Posted By: dyna
Date Posted: 15/April/2004 at 1:13pm
i mail all my existing costumers thanksgiving & x-mas cards every year it cost about 300-400 dollars but i get about 40% return costumers. then the next year  for the ones that didnt call i put a coupon in with the cards $10.00 off any service we offer. over$ 110.00 & that seems to get them to call they seem to really like that then tell there freinds that they got a card from there carpet cleaner & they call too.  i send cards to costumers even if they havent booked for 4or5 years they eventually call & book.  but it gets your name out there at the same time.


Posted By: dyna
Date Posted: 15/April/2004 at 1:23pm
i used to go in all the small towns phone books and offer no travel charge & city pricing and did alot of work.but i had a catch to it i would not charge travel but they had to get the neighbors & friends min. 4 jobs & no one got charged travel it worked good when i started out now to busy in city to bother but all my old costumers still call & know the deal &  they have 4or5 jobs lined up before they call me its pretty good the costumer dose the leg work for me.


Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 18/April/2004 at 11:04am
This is one section the real nightrider hasn't posted yet......look some actual information one can use...lol


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 18/April/2004 at 3:17pm

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Posted By: Harvey
Date Posted: 18/April/2004 at 4:10pm
   What kind of success ratio do you get telemarketing & do you do it yourself or hire someone to do it? Does this not make your business look sleazy? Just a question!


Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 18/April/2004 at 4:47pm

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Posted By: Carpetologist
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 4:28pm

Telemarketing

Is it for you or not?

You hear many people who use words like I hate those people and despise those who continuously disrupt my privacy by calling me.  Well let me tell you it's the fastest and economical way to get instant business and very fast growth.

I have customers who have taken 3 to 4 years to get their volume to $1000.00 per year. I also have telemarketing customers who reach the same volume in 30 Days.  Yes it works if you have the right personality and can control Telemarketing people.

Now my personal view is that I am very short or sometimes humorous with telemarketers. But the Good Ones I listen too and Learn, Learn, Learn. Sometimes these sales pitch can be invaluable to you.

 



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Posted By: Carpetologist
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 4:32pm

We are selling a New Best Seller publication

$299.00 + delivery, additional fuel charge my apply:

Everything you wanted to know about telemarketing but were afraid to Phone and Ask, in case your are Bashed.

Author:  Nightrider

All proceeds go to fuel for the Raaaaaaaam Vaaaaaaaaaaan

 



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Posted By: Carpetologist
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 4:46pm

Its Monday Lets Get Serious

When I was in the carpet cleaning business years ago I found the very best and least expensive advertising. What I did was to always put a small sticker with one Name and Telephone number and I would stick it to the householders vacuum cleaner.

This puts your name in lights at least once per week and hopefully every day. You would like to think every customer you clean will call you back.

The fact is they have forgotten you the next day and lost the invoice.  They sometimes remember , it was a tall guy with a blue van.

Stick, on Vacuum Cleaner

Stick, on Vacuum Cleaner

Stick, on Vacuum Cleaner this is something we all can afford.

Another Tip from Kleen Kuip



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Posted By: Rotti123
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 5:17pm

 I would be pissed if you put a sticker on my vacuum. :)  Maybe most people don't mind but I would.

 I have been using local newspaper ads lately and thinking about trying some radio ads.  I don't think any one thing is going to work magic.  It's a cumulative effect.  Just keep advertiseing here and there and hope people remember you.  I think your logo, name, slogan, etc goes a long way in helping people to remember and notice your business.

 

 



Posted By: Carpetologist
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 7:07pm

Talking about what works in advertising.

Have you noticed lately how some people totally wrap their van in pictures, logos and numbers in a very colourfull way? You even see it on buses. This simply jumps out and grabs you. Think what it would cost to have two signs on poles the same size as your van in your town or city. Probably thousands. Look into it.

Image, Image, Image.

It works.



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Posted By: LilNiteRidrhood
Date Posted: 19/April/2004 at 7:17pm
I believe a spotter bottle with your name on it is by far the best way to keep your company's brand awareness  in their minds.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 23/October/2005 at 10:10am
Originally posted by Carpetologist Carpetologist wrote:

Telemarketing

Is it for you or not?

You hear many people who use words like I hate those people and despise those who continuously disrupt my privacy by calling me.  Well let me tell you it's the fastest and economical way to get instant business and very fast growth.

I have customers who have taken 3 to 4 years to get their volume to $1000.00 per year. I also have telemarketing customers who reach the same volume in 30 Days.  Yes it works if you have the right personality and can control Telemarketing people.

Now my personal view is that I am very short or sometimes humorous with telemarketers. But the Good Ones I listen too and Learn, Learn, Learn. Sometimes these sales pitch can be invaluable to you.

 



Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 23/October/2005 at 10:24am

Mr. Nightrider and Mr. Carpetologist

It seems the two of you have a lot of knowledge/experience with telemarketing. I'm very interested in doing it also, as I've seen it can/does generate work. Unfortunately i've seen it in another field being used. I'd appreciate it if ya'll could put me in the right direction for further info and generating a script that WORKS....

Ps.. Email is dscorpio mailto:D2791@aol.com - 2791@aol.com



Posted By: mvcc
Date Posted: 11/December/2005 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by Carpetologist Carpetologist wrote:

Talking about what works in advertising.

Have you noticed lately how some people totally wrap their van in pictures, logos and numbers in a very colourfull way? You even see it on buses. This simply jumps out and grabs you. Think what it would cost to have two signs on poles the same size as your van in your town or city. Probably thousands. Look into it.

Image, Image, Image.

It works.

 

http://www.mtnviewcarpetcare.com/van.jpg -



Posted By: jtuseo
Date Posted: 20/February/2006 at 1:08pm
Val-Pak & the internet are the best forms of media

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 20/February/2006 at 6:52pm

jtuseo,

..I'm sure you're just joking.....



Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 22/February/2006 at 10:31pm

Display ads in your weekly newspaper's... WHY you ask... These old folks read them weekly's and will see your DISPLAY AD.. Not classified but DISPLAY..

Telemarketing is King if your set up right..

Also, market to your list..........................



Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 23/February/2006 at 6:14pm

..."Telemarketing is king, if you're set up right".......

John, please explain this comment, as it sounds a bit .....



Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 23/February/2006 at 11:12pm

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: 23/February/2006 at 11:54pm

Nightrider,

I sure wish I had your confidence



Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 24/February/2006 at 12:52am

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 24/February/2006 at 2:08pm

Originally posted by LilNiteRidrhood LilNiteRidrhood wrote:

I believe a spotter bottle with your name on it is by far the best way to keep your company's brand awareness  in their minds.

KEY CHAIN"S  !!!!!!!! Everywhere they go your name goe's....



Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 02/March/2006 at 1:41am
The problem with telemarketing is the same as with radio, newspaper and TV ads.  It is shotgun marketing.  Who is your target audience?  Is it anyone who has a phone?  Any other qualifiers?  Like should they own the house?  Should they have carpet and not hardwood or tile floors?  Should they be making at least $X per year?  Should their home be in certain neighborhoods and not in others?

I took data regarding my area.  I found out what the average income, home value etc were.  I used the data collected and said - OK, I am looking for people who are well healed (middle income or better) and bought a list.  That list had only 300 addresses on it but it gave me what I was looking for -- where is my target audience clustered? 

That is where all of my marketing efforts go.  I will let the other guys filter out the rest.  Shotgun marketing is like saying "kill them all and let God sort out the good ones from the bad ones".  I am not saying that is not effective.  I just don't see it as the most productive use of time and resources.  Of course, I could be wrong.

-=Mike=-


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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/March/2006 at 2:12am

Good post duck.

When i first started i worked for a co. for 2yrs and seen it go from 3 tech's to 15 in 1.5yrs, And it was the result of their marketing preference, which was telemarketing...

I guess they had it set up right. 15 booths/callers, 5 days a week, 12 hrs a day.



Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 02/March/2006 at 9:25am

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Posted By: Mark McMaster
Date Posted: 28/October/2007 at 10:51pm
Just thought I'd bump this topic back up. nightrider.......you know what you're talking about. I've been lurking around these boards for almost a year now reading your posts.  I'm not kissing a$$ on here by no means but you share alot of marketing ideas on here and good ones at that. I've always wanted to try the telemarketing route but never had the cahounas. I'm gonna try your idea of phoning people that I don't care if I land as a custy or not and see how it goes. Thanks for all the ideas. I'd be interested to know your script that you use as well. Even tho I do Tile and Grout, I'm sure that I could tweek it to my advantage.

Thanks and have a good one. Mark


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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 29/October/2007 at 10:40am
Your lucky up there.. I wish they never passed the no call list in the States.. And other laws.. Dead


Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 25/February/2008 at 10:50pm
I don't have any ideas but I just wanted to say I appriciate everyone who sharesClap   Worshipper%20Bow

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Posted By: DeepScrub
Date Posted: 02/March/2008 at 6:09pm
Pound the pavement with flyers,place your price.It's what usually get's me jobs.Pass out 300-400 and hope to get about 20-50 jobs off of that!

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 02/March/2008 at 7:33pm
Have you tried "Direct Response Marketing"..?  Twig%20Poker


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 02/March/2008 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

Your lucky up there.. I wish they never passed the no call list in the States.. And other laws.. Dead


You can still call.  Just need to scrub your list every 30 days.  Or not scrub and take chances.  There are inexpensive programs you can buy to scrub you list with the latest downloaded list.  One area code is free from the feds.  For me, one is all I need.


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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 02/March/2008 at 9:14pm
I target fairly new neighborhoods.  Easier to clean, they have more money, and I want to get them before somebody ruins them.  I drive around, find the development, put out the coupons and find messages on my phone when I get back to the home office (office in home I mean).  Fine tuned delivery of my message to just the audience I want.  Let the other rent a rug doctor or call the yellow truck guys.  And I blow off any home with moderate to heavy urine damage.  I am not looking for jobs where you get called back.  Again, let them go to SS.

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Posted By: DeepScrub
Date Posted: 03/March/2008 at 12:00pm
Yeah! Every time I go to a job or talk with a customer they bring up SS yellow guys! It's pretty funny to me.I don't have anything against them,but come on they aren't the only people who know how to clean carpet!!

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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 03/March/2008 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by DeepScrub DeepScrub wrote:

Yeah! Every time I go to a job or talk with a customer they bring up SS yellow guys! It's pretty funny to me.I don't have anything against them,but come on they aren't the only people who know how to clean carpet!!


DeepScrub, I have to differ with you on your final point but I do feel like you that they aren't the only guys with a truckmount or portys.

They don't know how to clean carpet.  What they know is a process.  And we all that processes are not enough to deal with the variables in this business.  It takes brains, something they are not allowed to use for liability reasons (because SS doesn't know how to teach and train in anything more complicated than which end of the wand rides on the carpet).  Not a single tech coming to the customer's home is IICRC trained or certified. 

They know nothing about stains.  What they do sets some stains.  They tell the customer "we will try to get that out for you".    With what?  More passes with the wand?  Yeah, like that will work.  I know because I actually hired one of their former techs.  Big mistake.  not trainable. 

I walked out of a home because the customer insisted on holding up what I said about urine treatments needed on her pee hole of a living room carpet by her saying "The Stanley Steemer guy has never said anything like that (implying I was trying to pull a scam)".

No point in converting these groupies of SS.  These are like your friendly Watchtower delivery folks who blindly follow a dogma.  After their white carpet goes the color of a SS van, maybe they will change sides.  In the meanwhile, just remember a fool and his money are soon parted.

I will even put up a flier on the door of the customer who is having or just had SS do a job on them.  I am thinking about setting a trap for them, filming them trying to get red #4 out of carpet and then filming my company making quick work of the same stain.  Put it on those small CDs and leave it at the home of a current SS customer.  Business is Business. 


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Posted By: Adam S.
Date Posted: 06/March/2008 at 9:21am
I've tried door hangers which worked ok, but I never had a return like that. By place your price do you mean pick an area where your familiar with th inside home layouts and give them a quote on the flyer that you leave?

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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 2:48am
Yes, twice this week my custys said "SS said that wouldnt come out" I smiled, sprayed some treatment, almost watched the stains disapear, collected money and smiled

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Posted By: B Rice
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 2:51am
I tried flyers...out of 400 we would pass out we would get 2 calls. seemed to be a waste of time. Maybe the flyers sucked...Who knows...they were fully colored with pics of a rotovac cleaning?

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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 9:58am
wow this was on my orginal post over 4 years ago...LOL
 
Let me tell you 2 out of 400 is great... right on target...
 
Since that orginal post...  I've been doing direct mailings at around 300 thousand per month.  If you get 1 % you are lucky...  realistic values are around .45 of a percentage point.
 
now doing mailings to past customers will give you around a 10% return..
 
new customers are hard to pick up.....but once you build up a list keep working it..  I'm almost to 3000 customers now...it's been a long road...and I still got to keep going


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 07/March/2008 at 11:30am
Yea.. Thats about what i get also 2/400.. Hey Mr.Steamer what's that cost you in postage 300,000 X .26 for postcards = $78,000 US....Guitar%20Headbanger


Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 3:10pm

Hand out 10,000 business cards a month, every month.



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Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 3:11pm
cost about $200

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 4:31pm

Have you done that..?



Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 5:18pm
Yes. If your area is large enough, over 100,000 pop,  it can work. Remember all these people have your card, some will throw it away, others save it for later. Place one on EVERY car in every mall you visit. Great excersise and low cost exposure. My cards are approx $ 120 per 5,000.

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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by DCC DCC wrote:

Yes. If your area is large enough, over 100,000 pop,  it can work. Remember all these people have your card, some will throw it away, others save it for later. Place one on EVERY car in every mall you visit. Great excersise and low cost exposure. My cards are approx $ 120 per 5,000.


You do take a chance with cards in the mall.  Security or the cops for violations including littering and solicitating.  If the person throws your card on the ground, your name is on it.  Bad publicity then and who do they send the litter fine to?  But, in an ideal world with the sun shining (like that happens here in Oregon) and where there aren't as many jerks out to make trouble for people who have a life and a honest company it sounds good. 


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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 7:43pm
By the way DCC, what is on your card?  Got a scan?  And who are you getting them from, Vista Print?

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Posted By: DCC
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 8:08pm
Right now we use 123print, but vistaprint works well also. We have no "wow-factor" to the cards, just anything you can design online. The main purpose is to generate interest and get someone to your website where they can see more than a card can show. They might say "ok I need my couch cleaned, let me call". And yes we have to be carefull where we advertise/ give out the cards. Getting some type of permission can help.
 
My suggestion is to order a few cards (250)to start. Then when you have found the "right" design order 5,000 or more. I bet you can personally passout 25-50 per day just with the people you meet.


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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 8:55pm
We can't do that in my area.. Agree with the soil on the car thingy.. Ppl don't like you messin/touchin their car...  Mallet%20Fight


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 08/March/2008 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

We can't do that in my area.. Agree with the soil on the car thingy.. Ppl don't like you messin/touchin their car...  Mallet%20Fight


And some car alarms trigger too easily. 


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Posted By: MR. STEAMER
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

Yea.. Thats about what i get also 2/400.. Hey Mr.Steamer what's that cost you in postage 300,000 X .26 for postcards = $78,000 US....Guitar%20Headbanger
direct mailing goes out for 1.8 cents per piece...like Val pak in the states...
 
so it runs me around 5 grand a month....  I have made up to 20 grand in a month..  they say you have to make 4 dollars for every you spend..but it doesn't always work out that way


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 5:24pm
sometimes you make back what you spend for everything including printing.  repeat business is the goal then with the accounts gained.

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 5:27pm
SLG.. Your everywhere.. No jobs..? Porty collecting dust..?  LOL


Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 09/March/2008 at 6:18pm
John I know your feelings are hurt.  I keep my work to weekdays and Saturdays.  Even God took a day off.  

But I did service the van and porty this morning and then went online to order more chemicals.  I just finished with the bookkeeping.  Got to do it when you are adding customers you know.  I work everywhere, yes.  Oh, but you knew that.  No dust, John....getting moss on your tires?  Rolling tires gather no moss, John.





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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 10/March/2008 at 2:40am
Hahahaha... Your funny girl...LOL Love your humor...Heart...Just got back.. Made big bucks...Big%20smile


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 10/March/2008 at 11:03am
Hooking now John?  Working my corner again?  I'll be yer pimp man!Pimpin
Or did you have an office building to do?Cool!



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 2:19pm
LOL duck..LOL


Posted By: envirosafe
Date Posted: 30/May/2008 at 7:49am
I would NEVER do any business with any company that either uses telemarketing or unsolicited email. I would certainly NEVER want my business associated with either.
 
With all of the false and misleading advertising already widespread in this industry all we need is to look even sleazier!


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 21/June/2008 at 1:53pm
Well envirosafe, you are not a candidate for a good carpet cleaning. 

Many craftsmen in several trades have thought themselves "ART-TEETZ" and set their work standards too high with prices to match.  I believe you have heard the label "starving artist"?  Unless the world has singled you out as the next great Michelangelo of carpet cleaning NEVER say NEVER. 

Flexibility in business is what some refer to as being open-minded.  Recognizing we are not like everyone else so our values are not going to be our customers values is seeing the big picture in living color.

Businesses understand that you leave your idealism at the door.




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Posted By: envirosafe
Date Posted: 21/June/2008 at 2:42pm
Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

Well envirosafe, you are not a candidate for a good carpet cleaning. 

Many craftsmen in several trades have thought themselves "ART-TEETZ" and set their work standards too high with prices to match.  I believe you have heard the label "starving artist"?  Unless the world has singled you out as the next great Michelangelo of carpet cleaning NEVER say NEVER. 

Flexibility in business is what some refer to as being open-minded.  Recognizing we are not like everyone else so our values are not going to be our customers values is seeing the big picture in living color.

Businesses understand that you leave your idealism at the door.


 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customerís lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.



Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 21/June/2008 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by envirosafe envirosafe wrote:

 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customerís lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.



Lovely sentiments I am sure.  The fact that you restrict which socially acceptable methods you will permit yourself to use when promoting your business means you have decided to infuse your values into the business and inhibit growth at the expense of all you hold dear like food and shelter for your family.  Valiant sacrifice although sadly all in vein.  None of your competition minds that you are uncomfortable with methods you believe are held in distaste by potential clients.  Really, they need you to hold to those principles which they scoop up all the chips you left on the table by folding to early.  Yep, NO problem.  See you at Mickey Ds pushing fries with every meal.  Or do you consider asking for the sale too intrusive for you and obviously for everyone else in the civilized world since everyone thinks like you and agrees you should become the moral leader for businesses everywhere?

You view is limited in scope and that makes it limiting in results.  Keeping real busy by matching low ball prices is not a business.  Can you make the same sales dollars with 5 times the profits by doing 1/4 the jobs?  If you learn to sell, yes.  If you don't, hope you enjoy your carpet cleaning JOB.  Nothing personal Mike.  But you just haven't developed that hunger to succeed yet. 

Do not fault others for their success, blaming them for your own inability to match their results because in your mind of minds you think what they do is wrong.  Instead learn from their example and push through your own biases to reach levels you never before thought possible.  Do what they do, exactly the way they do it and in exactly the order they do it.  Make your sales days count.  Your growth will be best if done by selling the differences that make your service so valuable, not by low balling your competition as if you were one more whore working the same corner trying for the same john.

You can be the example but only if your success is truly unsurpassed.  Lead by example, don't be lead by your prejudices.






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Posted By: envirosafe
Date Posted: 21/June/2008 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

Originally posted by envirosafe envirosafe wrote:

 

Well, as I stated earlier - I rather be out of business than operate like the dishonest sleezballs that make up most of this industry (in my experience). I also prefer not to intrude, uninvited, into potential customerís lives, especially with the lies that are nearly always involved over the phone. You seem to be arguing that you have to be a sleezball to do business...your prerogative I guess. I'm still have an ever-growing business and I've not had to sink into that cesspool...say what you like.

 

I offer two guarantees (1) I'll beat any legitimate, written, quote from any other licensed carpet cleaning company in Beaufort and (2) No quote you get over the phone is worth the paper it's written on.



Lovely sentiments I am sure.  The fact that you restrict which socially acceptable methods you will permit yourself to use when promoting your business means you have decided to infuse your values into the business and inhibit growth at the expense of all you hold dear like food and shelter for your family.  Valiant sacrifice although sadly all in vein.  None of your competition minds that you are uncomfortable with methods you believe are held in distaste by potential clients.  Really, they need you to hold to those principles which they scoop up all the chips you left on the table by folding to early.  Yep, NO problem.  See you at Mickey Ds pushing fries with every meal.  Or do you consider asking for the sale too intrusive for you and obviously for everyone else in the civilized world since everyone thinks like you and agrees you should become the moral leader for businesses everywhere?

You view is limited in scope and that makes it limiting in results.  Keeping real busy by matching low ball prices is not a business.  Can you make the same sales dollars with 5 times the profits by doing 1/4 the jobs?  If you learn to sell, yes.  If you don't, hope you enjoy your carpet cleaning JOB.  Nothing personal Mike.  But you just haven't developed that hunger to succeed yet. 

Do not fault others for their success, blaming them for your own inability to match their results because in your mind of minds you think what they do is wrong.  Instead learn from their example and push through your own biases to reach levels you never before thought possible.  Do what they do, exactly the way they do it and in exactly the order they do it.  Make your sales days count.  Your growth will be best if done by selling the differences that make your service so valuable, not by low balling your competition as if you were one more whore working the same corner trying for the same john.

You can be the example but only if your success is truly unsurpassed.  Lead by example, don't be lead by your prejudices.




 
I do have to say - you have rationalization down to a fine art Wink


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 22/June/2008 at 12:48am
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Posted By: GreenClean
Date Posted: 09/July/2008 at 10:21am

Steamer (and all),

You say yellow pages make the phone rang.  I'm in the process of setting up my yellow page ads for 2009 and was thinking about going "big."  The local competitors take out half page and dollar bill size ads.  I'm looking at a "cheater half-page," but am wondering if the ROI is there.  AT&T wants $1700 per MONTH for that ad (but I also get "Credit" dollars for ads in other sections....there way of selling more, I guess).

I think you're in Atlanta, so your metro area is probably a little bigger than mine, but what sort of response rates are you getting from yellow pages?  Is it worth what you pay compared to other forms of advertising?  What size/type of yellow page ad do you have?  Have you broken it down into $ per lead for yellow pages?   Thanks for your response in advance.



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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 09/July/2008 at 10:38am
I have a one liner and so far only 5 calls from it and 3 jobs.. lol.. $14mo. The first job payed for it all year. So dont get a 1 liner if you want the phone to ring.. Had a 1/3 page years ago for $550mo.. and the phone rang more often.


Posted By: JR Harvey
Date Posted: 21/July/2008 at 9:35pm
YP and Craigslist.

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Find us at: happyYELLOW.com


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 22/July/2008 at 2:08am
So I see you own happyYELLOW, Harry Harvey.  How is that working out for you? 

Do you come to us as
  • a carpet cleaner with years of experience
  • a real estate agent struggling in today's market or
  • someone trying to self promote his new venture as the next yellowbook.com?
Be honest, you don't come across as anybody with loads of experience and we know this board is a likely target for those hoping to boost their google while trying to drive some traffic to their site.  Come clean.

Registrant:
Harry Harvey
PO BOX 230177
LAS VEGAS, Nevada 89105-0177
United States

Registered through: Brinkster
Domain Name: HAPPYYELLOW.COM
Created on: 22-Jan-07
Expires on: 22-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 22-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
Harvey, Harry harveyrealestate@yahoo.com
PO BOX 230177
LAS VEGAS, Nevada 89105-0177
United States
+1.7025654700



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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 22/July/2008 at 2:30am
One other thing, Harvey Services does not have a business license, so says the city of Las Vegas.  You might want to consider peddling your web business somewhere else because here we do not appreciate the effort.  Trust me.

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Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 22/July/2008 at 11:24am

As you see there is Security on this BB..LOL

Anyways if you need a surge of cash start calling on your customer list..Money%20Smile



Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 22/July/2008 at 1:02pm
Nice catch Mr. Duck

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Posted By: carla4297
Date Posted: 21/October/2008 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by MR. STEAMER MR. STEAMER wrote:

What works best...I want to drop some advertising but I find I get mixed results...sometimes the radio works great sometimes it doesnt...sometimes flyers work great....sometimes YP's work great...but I find nothing consistant.....Does anyone have any ideas???


Good reputation is everything you need... At least this is what we always wanted. Nothing is more useful than a pleased customer. Additionally to this there are many advertising posibilities as already mentioned, but they shouldn't be your basis i guess...


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Posted By: Soil Lint Green
Date Posted: 23/October/2008 at 3:39pm
You are right Carla, satisfied customers are your best marketing vehicle.  Staying in contact with them reminds everyone about your performance and keeps you upfront in their thoughts.

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Posted By: adbox
Date Posted: 15/December/2008 at 12:43pm
I am not in the business, but I am in the shopping business.

and above all I'd like to see the owner personally pay a visit to the site, say hello to the family, and ask if there is anything he can do with his voice.

Also, I like the idea of the owner asking the customer to refer him to a friend, if they like their work.

ask and you shall receive. If you place the idea in the person's mind, as a request, and they were pleased in your work, then they will also take pleasure in honoring your request.

It will be something they enjoy talking about, and good, stand-out work deserves being honored.

1. Post on craigslist.

2. Have one on your workers place postcards/flyers on the doors of nice neighborhoods. Or even at the malls like someone else mentioned earlier. But if you do this, tell your guys to target the more expensive cars and leave out older junky cars and cars that look like teenagers cars. This is target marketing, and you don't want to waste your purchased material. --- and warn your workers not to get lazy and place them wherever or throw any of them away!

Here is a good article on focusing on the quality of a customer and lead.
http://advertisingblogg.com/the-business-of-carpet-cleaning/

3. Mind the holidays; people will have family over and chose those times to invest in carpet cleaning.

4. In your marketing piece, outline the philosophy of why having a clean carpet in good for your health. Or rather, take this concept and write an article about it, promoting the carpet cleaning service in general, and offer it to your local newspaper. Newspaper's with good mind's will not turn down good content and content that will help a community's overall economy.

The printing is affordable, and postcards are an inexpensive route, and you can also practice target marketing through variable data printing, but I am not certain vdp is the route you should take for your carpet cleaning business. When postcards become pricey is when you use them for a direct mailing campaign. Postage drives the cost up. But even then, if you mail through a mailing company, then the company will be able to save you money on postage, because they own barcoding and routing software that earns postage discounts.

Hope this helps,
Hudson Atwell







Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 15/December/2008 at 1:15pm
Hudson your #2 idea target cars with flyers! BAD IDEA..! You don't want to mess around touching ppl's cars.. Alarms go off.. People go off..Angry


Posted By: adbox
Date Posted: 15/December/2008 at 1:34pm
: D ,
well, maybe.

I used to do this two years ago for a business I was trying to start up. I would go up and down the rows every other day at random times of this large parking lot. Lift up a windshield wiper, set in marketing piece, down, walk on.  I was not targeting the nice looking cars then, I had no reason too. But never once set off an alarm. I  occasionally would greet someone and hand off my flyer with no problems. But sometimes someone would look at me stern browed and say no.

And for myself, I am excited when anything is put on my car. It's a change, and I always would hope it would be a note from a friend... or something cool like that. Plus having done flyer marketing myself I'm always interested in seeing what other flyer marketers advertise-- so you know at least you will have a high-exposure-success-rate with business marketers.



Posted By: envirosafe
Date Posted: 15/December/2008 at 3:05pm
Originally posted by adbox adbox wrote:

: D ,
well, maybe.

I used to do this two years ago for a business I was trying to start up. I would go up and down the rows every other day at random times of this large parking lot. Lift up a windshield wiper, set in marketing piece, down, walk on.  I was not targeting the nice looking cars then, I had no reason too. But never once set off an alarm. I  occasionally would greet someone and hand off my flyer with no problems. But sometimes someone would look at me stern browed and say no.

And for myself, I am excited when anything is put on my car. It's a change, and I always would hope it would be a note from a friend... or something cool like that. Plus having done flyer marketing myself I'm always interested in seeing what other flyer marketers advertise-- so you know at least you will have a high-exposure-success-rate with business marketers.

 
That sounds positively delightful!!! Wait until some get thrown on the ground and they come bust you for littering...been there done that, you don't want to go there. But if everyone is as sweet as you, in your neck of the woods, no problem LOL


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 15/December/2008 at 5:11pm
The cheapest route I know of is craigslist and telemarketing.  No littering either.  And don't forget to park your mobile signage (company van) where it gets the maximum exposure.  You paid for it, use it.

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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 27/December/2008 at 9:09pm
And I use simple flyers to attract attention.  These go on door jams.  Here is the first one for next year.  The are printed 3 to a page to save money and not waste it.



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Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 21/February/2009 at 2:43pm
How about giving away calendars that have reminder dates of when next to clean?

Add reminder postcards to that and they have heard from you two times that month.  The newsletter is #3.  The phone call reminding them by offering a discount is #4.


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Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 28/February/2009 at 8:00pm
Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

And I use simple flyers to attract attention.  These go on door jams.  Here is the first one for next year.  The are printed 3 to a page to save money and not waste it.



Boy, am I late to this party.

Some advice on this little door jammer. I believe your offer would seem more attractive as if it were a deal. Right now it looks like regular price. Regular price is not very exciting.
$59 Two Rooms--Any Size (normally $79)


If may suggest a deadline to stop them from putting it in that drawer in their kitchen. You know the drawer that aliens will discover 3000 years from now in an archaeological dig filled with coupons. Putting a call to action with it may help too-

Offer expires 3/3/2009- Call Now!

It may not seem like it but making any of the wording into a weird font can decrease readership by 700%. Some of the font you use is a little over the top and distracting from the offer/service. The more jumbled the faster the trip to the trash.

There is no such thing as wasting money on advertising. There is wrong media, wrong target market or wrong message.This type of ad will fail and it has nothing to do with the cost of the device (flier in this case), it really does not say anything.

I really believe when you fall exclusively on price (which is done here that is why it is at the top), it will choke the ad to death. Right now the only thing that would improve this ad is lowering the price... who wants to do that?

Why does the carpets stay clean? You may know, everyone on this forum may know, but they don't know.

If we can find ways to tell the potential customers why, they might get convinced.

As far as $59, maybe everyone charges that. Maybe you are more. The homeowner does not know, don't assume they have been keeping notes on carpet cleaning (other than in the mummified drawer). Let them know it is a deal.

Anyway, hopefully I do not get flamed being my first post. I really do want to see people succeed with their ads.


Paul

 



Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 28/February/2009 at 8:58pm
So Paul McQuillan of Harris Minnesota, how do you market YOUR carpet cleaning service?  I take it you do more than try to sell some ebook?  Your website, onslaughtmarketing.com, seems a bit overkill on words and looks like typical sites used by spammers worldwide making one wonder since you just started your site on January 22nd of this year ( one month and 6 days ago) - how is the fishing for victims in our industry going?

Hope you don't mind me pointing out that your $57 offer of a pdf file and saying how you don't want to be flamed for coming on as an outsider leaves you wide open to attacks from those tired of spammers trying to push something they have no qualifications to do.  Tell us what has worked for you in your CARPET CLEANING business or talk to some of the SEO spammers here and see if they can help you promote your alternative to finding a real job.

Why what we do works is not something you would understand, Paul.  You see we come from a position of experience.  Tell you what, be a sole proprietor in our business for a few years, apply your ideas and then come back to share your experiences.   Later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.



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Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 01/March/2009 at 6:33am
As you can see you went through effort to investigate me. I did not try to sell a thing.

I not only have a business in marketing (the ebook is a small part of that business) I also own a window cleaning company (for almost a decade).

Because our industries are very similar I like to get involved with relative businesses. I am certainly not spying nor any other deceptive behavior.

We live in a negative society so I understand your skepticism.

One thing I have been working on is bringing relative services together. Not so much on a forum but on a local level. When I first started my business I was fortunate to be contacted by a house cleaning franchise (Merry Maids) because they wanted to add window cleaning to their services.

We worked out a deal and I was basically subbed out. I wore my shirt, drove my vehicle, I was basically servicing these customers as if they called off a flier. I wont get into the structure of the deal, but I was so busy from their clients I could not advertise. We were both making a lot money from resources we did not have.

If we figure out ways to leverage each other (more so in this economy) we will be strong in a country of dying business.

I initially came on this forum to get a feel for carpet cleaners. The problem was you had a marketing section and I am a little bit of a marketing lunatic.

I am not here to sell anything. If you all do not want advice from a guy that is in a relative business that has great success at marketing, I will leave.

Marketing is relative. I sell my window cleaning service exactly the way you do, to exactly the same people. If I can create a postcard for a window cleaning company that generates over $100,000 in sales, I would hope my advice would be of use.

Breakthroughs are usually made by looking somewhere else for inspiration and applying it where nobody else does. No need to recreate the wheel.

I will NEVER try to sell anyone anything here. I will only give my advice on marketing, and it is needed here.

I totally understand if members do not want me here, but why not have a different perspective? It's up to you guys.

Paul

p.s. I have switched my website in my profile to my blog. I do not sell on my blog it is only free advice and ideas on marketing, and sometimes life.


Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 01/March/2009 at 6:38am
I forgot to mention how I sell my cleaning service. Fliers have by far the best response and the lowest cost.

I would take a full sized flier over a postcard any day


Posted By: John L
Date Posted: 01/March/2009 at 1:54pm
duckcountry.. let us know how your flyer does.. Approve
 
Onslaught.. Don't leave.. I would like to see that flyer of yours if you could post it here please.. Others probably would like to see it too..Big%20smile
 
Your profile said Minneapolis.. But your Window cleaning is in Madison WI..? I think i saw your vehicles running around from time to time..
 
Big%20smile Smile Tongue Wink Cry Big%20smile LOL Dead Embarrassed Confused Clap Angry Ouch Star Shocked Sleepy Unhappy Approve Cool


Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 01/March/2009 at 3:24pm
So now we know what has worked for you in window cleaning.  That is good to know if we ever decide as carpet cleaners to include window cleaning as a few here do we will seek you out on window cleaning or janitorial service boards and pick your brain.  What works for us does well.  Each of would not be here today if what we do did not work.  We have very successful carpet and upholstery care companies represented here so you could do well to learn from us should you go into a the carpet cleaning business as a trained professional.

We won't debate the difference in our styles as the only thing our two businesses have in common is the word CLEANING.  But I am sure the window cleaning board members would value your input.  I guess you just need to find those with Google. 

This board does not cater to the layman or any outside trades you will find.




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Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 03/March/2009 at 8:22am
Originally posted by John L John L wrote:

duckcountry.. let us know how your flyer does.. Approve
 
Onslaught.. Don't leave.. I would like to see that flyer of yours if you could post it here please.. Others probably would like to see it too..Big%20smile
 
Your profile said Minneapolis.. But your Window cleaning is in Madison WI..? I think i saw your vehicles running around from time to time..
 
Big%20smile Smile Tongue Wink Cry Big%20smile LOL Dead Embarrassed Confused Clap Angry Ouch Star Shocked Sleepy Unhappy Approve Cool


Nope, I do nothing in cheese country. Just around Minneapolis


Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 03/March/2009 at 8:23am
Originally posted by duckcountry duckcountry wrote:

So now we know what has worked for you in window cleaning.  That is good to know if we ever decide as carpet cleaners to include window cleaning as a few here do we will seek you out on window cleaning or janitorial service boards and pick your brain.  What works for us does well.  Each of would not be here today if what we do did not work.  We have very successful carpet and upholstery care companies represented here so you could do well to learn from us should you go into a the carpet cleaning business as a trained professional.

We won't debate the difference in our styles as the only thing our two businesses have in common is the word CLEANING.  But I am sure the window cleaning board members would value your input.  I guess you just need to find those with Google. 

This board does not cater to the layman or any outside trades you will find.




That my friend is absolutely ridiculous. What do you think you are doing that those in window cleaning are not? Please be specific so I can shoot everyone of them down in detail.

Marketing is ALL relative

You must be under the impression I am some window cleaning marketer. I help all sorts of small businesses present themselves in a better way.

As for this community being unaccepting to those outside of their field, why would that be? Do we not all get up every day and work on our businesses the same way? Sure you use different cleaning tools, but there is NO difference in how we get work.

We find a problem, agitate the problem and offer a solution.

I see you feel threatened by me, don't. If I can give anyone on here a fresh perspective to maybe help them see things in a different light, is that bad? By you acting like carpet cleaning is unlike anything else is poisonous to these people on here and could potentially rob them of new ideas to stimulate more sales.

I'll keep posting on here until I hear from more than you. I will NEVER try to sell anyone anything but free advice on new possibilities.

Don't fear change




Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 03/March/2009 at 9:53am
Whoops, sorry John. I can show you examples of a postcard that made well over $100k in sales on one mailing. I will also show one that is about to mail.

These are 11x7 flat mailers, just a giant postcard. These ideas could easily work for a 2 sided flier.

http://www.screencast.com/t/AuB5DTmU - http://www.screencast.com/t/AuB5DTmU
http://www.screencast.com/t/Xd9zGYN7t4r - http://www.screencast.com/t/Xd9zGYN7t4r

http://www.screencast.com/t/7x2gYnit1 - http://www.screencast.com/t/7x2gYnit1
http://www.screencast.com/t/fWrZTPsm - http://www.screencast.com/t/fWrZTPsm

Think this could not work for carpet cleaners? Think again...




Posted By: duckcountry
Date Posted: 03/March/2009 at 1:45pm
Trust me when I say I am not threatened by some self proclaimed know it all like you since everyone of your kind has been run off here with their tail between their legs.  We ignore you, do nothing for you or with you and your engine runs out of steam and guess what?  That's right, you go back to honest work.

You are now officially on terminal ignore.  Some of us have businesses to run, others are street corner beggars with their hands out cleaning our windshields at red lights.  When the light turns green, watch out because getting to the next job is more important than if the beggar walks away or becomes a speed bump.


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Posted By: Onslaught
Date Posted: 03/March/2009 at 4:12pm
I run 2 businesses and I am in charge of a $250,000 marketing budget for another.

I do this between peddling on street corners

Thank you very much for ignoring me, I will have no problem doing the same


Posted By: tokmik
Date Posted: 16/March/2009 at 11:58pm
I think you use the media that best gets in your place first so that your business will bloom easily because of the customers that are just nearby and they have easy access to your place.


- Gilbert Carpet Cleaning


Posted By: prouddadx3
Date Posted: 17/March/2009 at 9:24am
I liked the stunned postcard. It seems it would be easy to make a similar one for carpet cleaning. I have also found that anything that works well in one service industry will work well in another. For fliers I like canvasing a neighborhood after I have cleaned and received a great testimonial from one or more of the neighbors. I include the testimonial from the neighbor which gives credibility to the flier.  I also have a sign that I could put up in the yard that said were happy we called Boulder Carpet Cleaning Masters to clean our carpets. In one subdivision I had about 8 signs up and probably landed 24 great jobs. I think both of you guys have some good ideas and look forward to seeing new stuff from everyone.
Upper Thumbs%20Up
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Posted By: bigc
Date Posted: 14/April/2009 at 8:38pm
nice advertisements onslaught, i especially like the jersey home owner stunned postcard.
I use postcards to keep customers coming back, and it works. As far as getting new customers using postcards it bombs every time. Deep down i know it's because i don't do the home work and target my postcards better.


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Posted By: nightrider
Date Posted: 14/April/2009 at 11:22pm
Telemarketing is still the best way for me.............I went fishing on the phone today and caught 5 restaurants to see tomorrow Phone......It's not what you say.....It's how you say it.
 
                                               Nightrider



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